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Posted: 9 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: -Sarcy-



Ami, not much is so much then what is so much? 🤣


Well... I can't keep it short? And you know me when it comes to analyise things especially character and then, this is about Baby! 😲
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Posted: 9 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: nuckts

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Unreserved...
Ok writing now
The following is my opinion:
"Mujhe farak nahi padta" yes that is the dialogue completely suitable on rudra (though i love sso saying it often😉) but its implemented by Rudra completely in his life
Take example from small teasing of soumya as cry baby (which can hurt a rich guy's male ego) or svetlana and tej's relationship acknowledged publicly he bares it all
where Shivaya looses his cool and has created a record in breaking phones out of anger😆
and Omkara's suicide attempt proves that at a point of time both are emotional but when it comes to Rudra he is a full package of surprise-he APPEARS to be emotional, crying over little things
but is a big pillar of support for the whole family by being funny

It is said environment+personal nature makes one's nature which is always given in a story form that two brothers having an alcoholic father is their environment but one thinks that their father did so he won't do that and makes a difference while the other thinks if father does it he would also do it nothing is wrong
Not exactly relevant example but similar case happened with OmRu
SVETLANA!
A lady who broke their home,parents relationship and of course Tej is equally responsible
but this lady's experience gave Om a sensitive outlook towards women due to his mother's situation
and Rudra an opposite outlook that if he has money,looks,abs any girl can come to him so yes till now he was playing like Tej's son but he does have a deep opinion like his mother.




girl I loved dis way of expression ...omg u expressed it so well dat whole shivkara being emotional...is there any chance u can come to Lee's adda ...just asking if ur free would love to know ur views more
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Posted: 9 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: arachne

Today's episode still revolves around the issue of women empowerment and as much as I would like to list down my opinions on it, that is a question for another day. The episode got us (Noor, Sarcy and myself) talking, that's for sure. However for us, the highlight of the episode was not about the social issue being discussed, but rather who was chosen to carry the banner. Om would have been the most obvious choice, Shivaay too in a way. But choosing instead to have the eternal playboy bring up the issue is interesting, to say the least. Rudra is the star here, the episode showing us the contradictions in his character. A joker on the outside, a playboy for the world, thought to be insensitive in regards-to girls, but is he really though? That is pretty interesting to say the least! Ru was given an opportunity to talk because he was the playboy and didn't care about girl feelings, which he actually does! Showing him caring about his mother definitely is a start to show that Ru cares! I actually took it as him representing the younger generation, and how they are curious and confused on this topic, but they learn, see different point of views and do end up with supporting equality, or at least should support equality.😆

Rudra is sensitive, but more than just in the emotional sense. He is sensitive to his surroundings. Emphatic. He is the one most affected by the issues brought up by Mallika. So much so that he feels concerned over the fate of the women in his family, wondering whether the same issue affects them too. He actually thought of whether his mother had to sacrifice her life, her dreams for the family. He was also sensible enough to take proactive action in tackling his concerns instead of talking about it pointlessly like Shivaay and Om did. They spent all that time arguing, but are actually more concerned at proving the other wrong than to actually discuss the matter. Rudra, on the other hand, genuinely feels the importance of the issue, with regards to the ladies of the house, and is the one that suggested asking the ladies about it rather than letting the men dictate whether it was a matter worth arguing or not. He feels so strongly about it in fact that he spoke up for his mother, against his father. For someone like Rudra,who has not been very much appreciated by Tej and is intimidated by him, that was a huge step for him to take. While Om spoke up about it as well, his arguments are more tangled in his pent up feelings for Tej and thus, unlike Rudra, he was not as objective as he should have been. Well looks like Ru is a sensible boy! Sensible enough to get more opinions on this matter! Nd not biased opinions, but opinions from the ladies themselves, not that I'm saying ladies can't give biased opinions, but Ru trusted his house ladies enough to show them that light ShivKara were fighting about and were not really able to find!
Hmmm Ru is intimated by his father actually... it's good that he talked what was in his heart, regardless of Tej standing around him, and boring his eyes in him😆

Rudra has also shown himself to be very analytical if he wants to be. When confronted with Mallika's concerns for example, he was sensible and analytical enough to recognise her feelings, how justified it is for her to be feeling that way and he lends his support to her. He was even able to think beyond Mallika and recognise that her concerns are more than just the conflicted, personal ramblings of a runaway bride.He did that? I don't remember! Urghh why does it always happen with me Anyway, well if Ru did understand that Mallika probably had some solid reasons for the running spree then Good Job Rudy Boy!👍🏼 He's a lot more smarter than he's given credits for! A Lot More!

If he is such an empathic and analytical person, so sensitive to the issues surrounding him, why does he persist in being a playboy then? Does the feelings of these ladies not matter because they're not family? In this case, I believe the fault lies more in his upbringing rather than in his character. He genuinely does not think of his actions as being hurtful to the ladies simply because it was never pointed out to him. His brothers know about the ladies and they tease him about it but that's it. They do not treat it as something serious and that influences his opinion about it. Besides, it takes two to tango. Rudra must've gained a reputation by now and yet it is still easy for him to get the ladies. Some of the ladies must've been interested in his wealth and looks rather than having any real feelings for him. I consider these dalliances as mere flings, both for Rudra and the ladies, rather than actual relationships. Shivaay and Om do not take them seriously as well or they would've have called him out on it. Om, especially, would have stopped Rudra had he thought any real harm was being done to the ladies. I'm not sure if this is just about his playboy nature or how he talked to Saumya. Well if it is about his playboy nature only then yes it dooes looks like the girls knew what they're getting into... look at that "sick" Ru's bedroom scene where the two girls were happily worrying about him together! So yeah they know most of the times I believe. Well I'm sure Om must've tried talking Ru out of it, well maybe. Tej doesn't look like he really like how his son behaves around with the girls. Well too late for him to talk though. Doesn't look like he ever got time for Ru since his childhood days anyway🤔

One character trait that is consistent with Rudra is him being adverse to conflicts. Time and again we've seen him play the peacemaker between Shivaay and Om, quickly diffusing the situation to avoid their arguments from escalating. Being the peacemaker also means that he speaks up to end conflicts, not to prolong or contribute to them in any way. Rudra has learned to pick his battles. As a result, he rarely involves himself in arguments between other members of his family. In the matter between his parents and Svetlana for example, he chose to be quiet. He knows he can win with Shivaay and Om, getting them to move away from their arguments. The conflict between his parents, however is an entirely different matter. With Shivaay and Om, he has the option of staying neutral, of not picking sides. With his parents, he is bound to have to pick sides and this does not bode well with his nature as the peacemaker. In addition, the arguments between his parents are rooted in layers of hurt and betrayal, and if he were to get involved, he would probably do more harm than good. The more logical option for him is to avoid the conflict altogether and let his parents work out their issues on their own. Lol I am not sure how much Ru knows that his nature of being peacemaker is actually even there. Sometimes I feel like Ru has probably grown up seeing these conflicts that he mostly just stays quiet, because well first he was child who was probably told to stay quiet when elders talked errr argued, and then he probably just got used to staying quiet. I actually still don't know what Ru's opinion about his dad and his external affair, well if there is any that is to say! Also he anyway started talking when he was four, so maybe he likes staying quiet😛 Okay poor joke... moving on😆

So there we have it, the complex character that is Rudra. We have always believed that there is more to Rudra than the fun-loving guy he portrays himself to be, and what we have seen of him so far are mere surface level details. The depths of his character have been hinted at before and now, his layers are slowly unfolding for us to see. 😆😆😆 I am liking the layers of his character getting unfolded! It's actually showing us more than just Ru! Idk but for me Ru at some level represent the youth too! Well a very calm youth on that😆 But it's good that Gul is exploring Ru's character more, and is showing how he's not just a playboy but a very sensible guy from within!👍🏼

Okay done! Yay!!👏<<Can we imagine it to be a child clapping really fast out of happiness?!😃😆

Ignore typos.😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
#24
That was incredibly well written, a great insight into Rudra'a complex character.
The few lines today just backed up everything you said- the way he appreciated his mother's dreams and her role in nurturing his dreams!

And especially when he talked about feeling hurt at times when he was called dumb... My heart really went out to him.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#25
Love this so so much, Sue.
Brilliant analysis
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Posted: 9 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: nuckts

Reserved

Will write in evening
Unreserved...
Ok writing now
The following is my opinion:
"Mujhe farak nahi padta" yes that is the dialogue completely suitable on rudra (though i love sso saying it often😉) but its implemented by Rudra completely in his life
Take example from small teasing of soumya as cry baby (which can hurt a rich guy's male ego) or svetlana and tej's relationship acknowledged publicly he bares it all
where Shivaya looses his cool and has created a record in breaking phones out of anger😆
and Omkara's suicide attempt proves that at a point of time both are emotional but when it comes to Rudra he is a full package of surprise-he APPEARS to be emotional, crying over little things
but is a big pillar of support for the whole family by being funny

It is said environment+personal nature makes one's nature which is always given in a story form that two brothers having an alcoholic father is their environment but one thinks that their father did so he won't do that and makes a difference while the other thinks if father does it he would also do it nothing is wrong
Not exactly relevant example but similar case happened with OmRu
SVETLANA!
A lady who broke their home,parents relationship and of course Tej is equally responsible
but this lady's experience gave Om a sensitive outlook towards women due to his mother's situation
and Rudra an opposite outlook that if he has money,looks,abs any girl can come to him so yes till now he was playing like Tej's son but he does have a deep opinion like his mother.


Tq for taking the time to comment 😳

Love your insights too! 👏

Let's see...Rudra really is full of contradictions isn't he? Like you said, he cries and agonize over the little things. Being scared by ghosts, having pimples. Yet, when it comes to the more serious matters, he is the most calm and level headed.

Nature and nurture? Yes. Oh, the character study we can do on Om and Rudra...would fill pages! 😆

On the surface, Om is his mother's son. Sensitive, soft spoken, classy.
Underneath, he's Tej's son. Opinionated, stubborn, easily angered

On the surface, Rudra is his father's son. Charming, manipulative, a hit with the ladies
Underneath, he's Jhanvi's son. Smart, empathic. And also a pro at keeping his feelings hidden.

Obros give me so many feels...😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: Toota_ShiSha



An entry about d character u love most I'd say best entry...

My ultimate dream for ib is ru becoming d CEO cause he fits every bill perfectly even d trp one ...

Especially cause he knows to get wat he wants dat is a character of a king



Character I love most...true that! ❤️

I hope he doesn't lose his innocence too much...that's what makes him...him 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .bintAli.

Well, I don't have much to add considering we brainstormed together for this 😆 Nicely written and apt analysis right there!

As you mentioned, till date there have been many subtle hints telling us that there is much more to Rudra than meets the eye. Hence, why I never complained about the "lack of exploration" since I loved the subtlety that was shown, the hints we got like his tensing up during any kind of fight or argument (I always pay attention to his expressions in those moments), the things he himself mentioned without ever digging too deep into them (like in the hospital saying that Shivaay was his superman, his mom and dad for him or when he was pulling Robin's leg and mentioned that he, himself, started speaking only after he was four) - the finesse had me hooked. And just as slowly and carefully they are now unraveling his layers and letting us look into the actual depth. I don't believe that his whole behaviour is fake, that's is pretty far-fetched, but yes, the jokes, the humor are definitely a protective armor he has build around himself over the years - making everything into a joke is how he copes with things.

And I found it very interesting how first, Om and then, Shivaay ended up by Rudra. They didn't exactly voice it but Rudra not going for his workout and instead, brooding silently in the room disturbed both of them, apparently. Does it have anything to do with him starting to speak very late? Is there more to it that his silence unsettles them? Worth pondering over.

The Batman childhood incident - aww 😳 On this note though, I'd like to mention: I hope CVs do not plan to mellow down the childhood of the Oberoi siblings, all of a sudden. These things that Rudra mentioned like Jhanvi making Batman masks for him show that Jhanvi at least tried to be a good mother and surely succeeded to some extent but still, TejVi were neglecting parents and did fail to a greater extent, as well. I don't think the O'Bros would have developed such a unique bond if their parents had actually fullfilled their roles as parents well enough - and Rudra wouldn't consider Shivaay his mom and dad or go to Om to share his worries with and seek solutions.

Also, Rudra mentioned that Jhanvi never went anywhere without informing him. And Jhanvi's leaving, all of a sudden, without telling anyone makes me wonder whether something like this had happened in the past, too- that she left without a word and it somehow affected Rudra a lot hence, why she doesn't go anywhere without telling him.

Laslty: Oxymoron Singh Oberoi 😆 I love it how they are slowly unraveling him for us, showing us the complexities and depth of his character and still, keep the innocent and naive touch that seems to be a basic part of his personality intact ❤️


Not much to add? You added a whole nother essay here... 😲

The subtle hints is much more fun than the in-your-face moments. They give you more room for interpretation, for speculations and we have always loved that, don't we? 😉

I see your concerns over attempts to water down the Oberois' dysfunctional nature. From what we have seen so far in regards to the boys' personalities, all of them are scarred in different ways which make sense given their childhood. So yeah, hopefully their painful past gets a mention and not swept under the rug altogether.

Ahhh..I see the wheels are turning for you 😆...the Jhanvi-Rudra relationship. They have been rather adorable lately. If Jhanvi had disappeared before, perhaps that was the moment Shivaay stepped in? This would explain Rudra's clingy nature too. But that is a discussion for another day. 😉

Whatever happens to the Obros in the future, however their dynamics will change, I do hope the brothers retain the basic essence of their characters.

There. Did I manage to get my points across or do I need another essay 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aphrodite88

Sue this hug is from me to you 🤗

This hug is for making a Rudy baby post on MF 🤗
This hug is for making that post so awesome and beautiful 🤗
Whatever you said about Rudra, I feel so proud to be his deewani too. Rudy baby, yes he is the joker, childish, playful character of all, but when he is affected by an issue, he is the first one to feel bad, to actually think about others, to actually seek out a way to find a solution to a problem. I dont have to say anything more as you have said it all. This post was too good 👏
Great analysis 👍🏼



Aww...neighbour!! 🤗

Baby has been rather neglected on MF, hasn't he?
And that's not right because he's awesome and I want everyone to know what a gem he is. 😳

With Rudra, the phrase "don't judge a book by its cover" comes to mind. He is more than what he appears to be and I'm glad he is getting the recognition he deserves now. ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Tris! I can't believe I took so long to reply to you. I'll keep it brief then. 😆
I like your opinion on Ru being the voice of the younger generation. It makes sense that each of the brothers represents a different part of society. Shiv is the career driven corporate youth, Om the one representating the youths who go on the unconventional path and pursuing their passion while Ru is for those of us who are still searching for our identity and are changing and growing as time passes by.

Ru getting used to being told to be quiet except around ShivKara...probably why he talks so much to them. Poor ShivKara 😆

I'm excited to explore more of Ru's character. Tq Tris for reading and commenting. You're my OSO ❤️

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