Rudra : The Tip of the Iceberg

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Today's episode still revolves around the issue of women empowerment and as much as I would like to list down my opinions on it, that is a question for another day. The episode got us (Noor, Sarcy and myself) talking, that's for sure. However for us, the highlight of the episode was not about the social issue being discussed, but rather who was chosen to carry the banner. Om would have been the most obvious choice, Shivaay too in a way. But choosing instead to have the eternal playboy bring up the issue is interesting, to say the least. Rudra is the star here, the episode showing us the contradictions in his character. A joker on the outside, a playboy for the world, thought to be insensitive in regards-to girls, but is he really though?

Rudra is sensitive, but more than just in the emotional sense. He is sensitive to his surroundings. Emphatic. He is the one most affected by the issues brought up by Mallika. So much so that he feels concerned over the fate of the women in his family, wondering whether the same issue affects them too. He actually thought of whether his mother had to sacrifice her life, her dreams for the family. He was also sensible enough to take proactive action in tackling his concerns instead of talking about it pointlessly like Shivaay and Om did. They spent all that time arguing, but are actually more concerned at proving the other wrong than to actually discuss the matter. Rudra, on the other hand, genuinely feels the importance of the issue, with regards to the ladies of the house, and is the one that suggested asking the ladies about it rather than letting the men dictate whether it was a matter worth arguing or not. He feels so strongly about it in fact that he spoke up for his mother, against his father. For someone like Rudra,who has not been very much appreciated by Tej and is intimidated by him, that was a huge step for him to take. While Om spoke up about it as well, his arguments are more tangled in his pent up feelings for Tej and thus, unlike Rudra, he was not as objective as he should have been.

Rudra has also shown himself to be very analytical if he wants to be. When confronted with Mallika's concerns for example, he was sensible and analytical enough to recognise her feelings, how justified it is for her to be feeling that way and he lends his support to her. He was even able to think beyond Mallika and recognise that her concerns are more than just the conflicted, personal ramblings of a runaway bride.

If he is such an empathic and analytical person, so sensitive to the issues surrounding him, why does he persist in being a playboy then? Does the feelings of these ladies not matter because they're not family? In this case, I believe the fault lies more in his upbringing rather than in his character. He genuinely does not think of his actions as being hurtful to the ladies simply because it was never pointed out to him. His brothers know about the ladies and they tease him about it but that's it. They do not treat it as something serious and that influences his opinion about it. Besides, it takes two to tango. Rudra must've gained a reputation by now and yet it is still easy for him to get the ladies. Some of the ladies must've been interested in his wealth and looks rather than having any real feelings for him. I consider these dalliances as mere flings, both for Rudra and the ladies, rather than actual relationships. Shivaay and Om do not take them seriously as well or they would've have called him out on it. Om, especially, would have stopped Rudra had he thought any real harm was being done to the ladies.

One character trait that is consistent with Rudra is him being adverse to conflicts. Time and again we've seen him play the peacemaker between Shivaay and Om, quickly diffusing the situation to avoid their arguments from escalating. Being the peacemaker also means that he speaks up to end conflicts, not to prolong or contribute to them in any way. Rudra has learned to pick his battles. As a result, he rarely involves himself in arguments between other members of his family. In the matter between his parents and Svetlana for example, he chose to be quiet. He knows he can win with Shivaay and Om, getting them to move away from their arguments. The conflict between his parents, however is an entirely different matter. With Shivaay and Om, he has the option of staying neutral, of not picking sides. With his parents, he is bound to have to pick sides and this does not bode well with his nature as the peacemaker. In addition, the arguments between his parents are rooted in layers of hurt and betrayal, and if he were to get involved, he would probably do more harm than good. The more logical option for him is to avoid the conflict altogether and let his parents work out their issues on their own.

So there we have it, the complex character that is Rudra. We have always believed that there is more to Rudra than the fun-loving guy he portrays himself to be, and what we have seen of him so far are mere surface level details. The depths of his character have been hinted at before and now, his layers are slowly unfolding for us to see. 😆😆😆

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sue, you've done a fantastic job with the analysis so I don't really have anything much to add. The dialogue that really stood out for me in yesterday's episode from Rudy was when he said that Jhanvi must have voiced her desire to work and pursue a career but she may just have been ignored because no one would've paid heed. The conviction with which he said that tells you that he is a deep thinker, someone who is not blind to his surroundings and also to the way people treat each other in his family, and quite astute in reading people. The day this guy dons the business suit and decides to step into the business world, he will give their rivals a run for their money and make Bhaiyya and Tej proud. ⭐️
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Originally posted by: arachne

Today's episode still revolves around the issue of women empowerment and as much as I would like to list down my opinions on it, that is a question for another day. The episode got us (Noor, Sarcy and myself) talking, that's for sure. However for us, the highlight of the episode was not about the social issue being discussed, but rather who was chosen to carry the banner. Om would have been the most obvious choice, Shivaay too in a way. But choosing instead to have the eternal playboy bring up the issue is interesting, to say the least. Rudra is the star here, the episode showing us the contradictions in his character. A joker on the outside, a playboy for the world, thought to be insensitive in regards-to girls, but is he really though?

</p><p>Rudra is sensitive, but more than just in the emotional sense. He is sensitive to his surroundings. Emphatic He is the one most affected by the issues brought up by Mallika. So much so that he feels concerned over the fate of the women in his family, wondering whether the same issue affects them too. He actually thought of whether his mother had to sacrifice her life, her dreams for the family. He was also sensible enough to take proactive action in tackling his concerns instead of talking about it pointlessly like Shivaay and Om did. They spent all that time arguing, but are actually more concerned at proving the other wrong than to actually discuss the matter. Rudra, on the other hand, genuinely feels the importance of the issue with regards to the ladies of the house and is the one that suggested asking the ladies about it rather than letting the men dictate whether it was a matter worth arguing or not. He feels so strongly about it in fact that he spoke up for his mother, against his father. For someone like Rudra,who has not been very much appreciated by Tej and is intimidated by him, that was a huge step for him to take. While Om spoke up about it as well, his arguments are more tangled in his pent up feelings for Tej and thus, unlike Rudra, he was not as objective as he should have been.

Rudra has also shown himself to be very analytical if he wants to be. When confronted with Mallika's concerns for example, he was sensible and analytical enough to recognise her feelings, how justified it is for her to be feeling that way and he lends his support to her. He was even able to think beyond Mallika and recognise that her concerns are more than just the conflicted, personal ramblings of a runaway bride.

If he is such an empathic and analytical person, so sensitive to the issues surrounding him, why does he persist in being a playboy then? Does the feelings of these ladies not matter because they're not family? In this case, I believe the fault lies more in his upbringing rather than in his character. He genuinely does not think of his actions as being hurtful to the ladies simply because it was never pointed out to him. His brothers know about the ladies and they tease him about it but that's it. They do not treat it as something serious and that influences his opinion about it. Besides, it takes two to tango. Rudra must've gained a reputation by now and yet it is still easy for him to get the ladies. Some of the ladies must've been interested in his wealth and looks rather than having any real feelings for him. I consider these dalliances as mere flings, both for Rudra and the ladies, rather than actual relationships. Shivaay and Om do not take them seriously as well or they would've have call him out on it. Om, especially, would have stopped Rudra had he thought any real harm was being done to the ladies.

One character trait that is consistent with Rudra is him being adverse to conflicts. Time and again we've seen him play the peacemaker between Shivaay and Om, quickly diffusing the situation to avoid their arguments from escalating. Being the peacemaker also means that he speaks up to end conflicts, not to prolong or contribute to them in any way.Rudra has learned to pick his battles. As a result, he rarely involves himself in arguments between other members of his family. In the matter between his parents and Svetlana for example, he chose to be quiet. He knows he can win with Shivaay and Om, getting them to move away from their arguments. The conflict between his parents, however is an entirely different matter. With Shivaay and Om, he has the option of staying neutral, of not picking sides. With his parents, he is bound to have to pick sides and this does not bode well with his nature as the peacemaker. In addition, the arguments between his parents are rooted in layers of hurt and betrayal, and if he were to get involved, he would probably do more harm than good.The more logical option for him is to avoid the conflict altogether and let his parents work out their issues on their own.

So there we have it, the complex character that is Rudra. We have always believed that there is more to Rudra than the fun-loving guy he portrays himself to be, and what we have seen of him so far are mere surface level details. The depths of his character have been hinted at before and now, his layers are slowly unfolding for us to see.😆😆😆


a very apt analysis. i think all oberoi brothers are written very carefully .. thats why they are so lovable.
Edited by chaturchipkali - 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: chaturchipkali


a very apt analysis. i think all oberoi brothers are written very carefully .. thats why they are so lovable.


Tq and yes..some aspects of their characteristics are very well developed. I hope to see more from the Cvs 😊
Edited by arachne - 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: arachne

Today's episode still revolves around the issue of women empowerment and as much as I would like to list down my opinions on it, that is a question for another day. The episode got us (Noor, Sarcy and myself) talking, that's for sure. However for us, the highlight of the episode was not about the social issue being discussed, but rather who was chosen to carry the banner. Om would have been the most obvious choice, Shivaay too in a way. But choosing instead to have the eternal playboy bring up the issue is interesting, to say the least. Rudra is the star here, the episode showing us the contradictions in his character. A joker on the outside, a playboy for the world, thought to be insensitive in regards-to girls, but is he really though?

yes he is the one who started the topic, Mallika thing affected him a lot😃

Rudra is sensitive, but more than just in the emotional sense. He is sensitive to his surroundings. Emphatic He is the one most affected by the issues brought up by Mallika. So much so that he feels concerned over the fate of the women in his family, wondering whether the same issue affects them too. He actually thought of whether his mother had to sacrifice her life, her dreams for the family. He was also sensible enough to take proactive action in tackling his concerns instead of talking about it pointlessly like Shivaay and Om did. They spent all that time arguing, but are actually more concerned at proving the other wrong than to actually discuss the matter. Rudra, on the other hand, genuinely feels the importance of the issue with regards to the ladies of the house and is the one that suggested asking the ladies about it rather than letting the men dictate whether it was a matter worth arguing or not. He feels so strongly about it in fact that he spoke up for his mother, against his father. For someone like Rudra,who has not been very much appreciated by Tej and is intimidated by him, that was a huge step for him to take. While Om spoke up about it as well, his arguments are more tangled in his pent up feelings for Tej and thus, unlike Rudra, he was not as objective as he should have been.


Yes, he was worried about all the ladies specially his mother and Priyanka. He noticed even Priyanka gave strong reply to Tej. Unlike Om or Shivaay who actually shouted, Rudra described it so coolly, which touched our heart ❤️

Rudra has also shown himself to be very analytical if he wants to be. When confronted with Mallika's concerns for example, he was sensible and analytical enough to recognise her feelings, how justified it is for her to be feeling that way and he lends his support to her. He was even able to think beyond Mallika and recognise that her concerns are more than just the conflicted, personal ramblings of a runaway bride.


Agree 👍🏼


If he is such an empathic and analytical person, so sensitive to the issues surrounding him, why does he persist in being a playboy then? Does the feelings of these ladies not matter because they're not family? In this case, I believe the fault lies more in his upbringing rather than in his character. He genuinely does not think of his actions as being hurtful to the ladies simply because it was never pointed out to him. His brothers know about the ladies and they tease him about it but that's it. They do not treat it as something serious and that influences his opinion about it. Besides, it takes two to tango. Rudra must've gained a reputation by now and yet it is still easy for him to get the ladies. Some of the ladies must've been interested in his wealth and looks rather than having any real feelings for him. I consider these dalliances as mere flings, both for Rudra and the ladies, rather than actual relationships. Shivaay and Om do not take them seriously as well or they would've have call him out on it. Om, especially, would have stopped Rudra had he thought any real harm was being done to the ladies.


Very much agree, I guess it's Om's duty to tell Rudra what's wrong what's right. And yes the girls who run after him also to be blamed.

One character trait that is consistent with Rudra is him being adverse to conflicts. Time and again we've seen him play the peacemaker between Shivaay and Om, quickly diffusing the situation to avoid their arguments from escalating. Being the peacemaker also means that he speaks up to end conflicts, not to prolong or contribute to them in any way. Rudra has learned to pick his battles. As a result, he rarely involves himself in arguments between other members of his family. In the matter between his parents and Svetlana for example, he chose to be quiet. He knows he can win with Shivaay and Om, getting them to move away from their arguments. The conflict between his parents, however is an entirely different matter. With Shivaay and Om, he has the option of staying neutral, of not picking sides. With his parents, he is bound to have to pick sides and this does not bode well with his nature as the peacemaker. In addition, the arguments between his parents are rooted in layers of hurt and betrayal, and if he were to get involved, he would probably do more harm than good. The more logical option for him is to avoid the conflict altogether and let his parents work out their issues on their own.


Yes, we have seen him gelling well with Tej, hugging him... if he talks about Jahnvi it will affect Tej more... if Om tells Tej, he will think again he is arguing with me

So there we have it, the complex character that is Rudra. We have always believed that there is more to Rudra than the fun-loving guy he portrays himself to be, and what we have seen of him so far are mere surface level details. The depths of his character have been hinted at before and now, his layers are slowly unfolding for us to see. 😆😆😆



Yes waiting for that

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Well, I don't have much to add considering we brainstormed together for this 😆 Nicely written and apt analysis right there!

As you mentioned, till date there have been many subtle hints telling us that there is much more to Rudra than meets the eye. Hence, why I never complained about the "lack of exploration" since I loved the subtlety that was shown, the hints we got like his tensing up during any kind of fight or argument (I always pay attention to his expressions in those moments), the things he himself mentioned without ever digging too deep into them (like in the hospital saying that Shivaay was his superman, his mom and dad for him or when he was pulling Robin's leg and mentioned that he, himself, started speaking only after he was four) - the finesse had me hooked. And just as slowly and carefully they are now unraveling his layers and letting us look into the actual depth. I don't believe that his whole behaviour is fake, that's is pretty far-fetched, but yes, the jokes, the humor are definitely a protective armor he has build around himself over the years - making everything into a joke is how he copes with things.

And I found it very interesting how first, Om and then, Shivaay ended up by Rudra. They didn't exactly voice it but Rudra not going for his workout and instead, brooding silently in the room disturbed both of them, apparently. Does it have anything to do with him starting to speak very late? Is there more to it that his silence unsettles them? Worth pondering over.

The Batman childhood incident - aww 😳 On this note though, I'd like to mention: I hope CVs do not plan to mellow down the childhood of the Oberoi siblings, all of a sudden. These things that Rudra mentioned like Jhanvi making Batman masks for him show that Jhanvi at least tried to be a good mother and surely succeeded to some extent but still, TejVi were neglecting parents and did fail to a greater extent, as well. I don't think the O'Bros would have developed such a unique bond if their parents had actually fullfilled their roles as parents well enough - and Rudra wouldn't consider Shivaay his mom and dad or go to Om to share his worries with and seek solutions.

Also, Rudra mentioned that Jhanvi never went anywhere without informing him. And Jhanvi's leaving, all of a sudden, without telling anyone makes me wonder whether something like this had happened in the past, too- that she left without a word and it somehow affected Rudra a lot hence, why she doesn't go anywhere without telling him.

Laslty: Oxymoron Singh Oberoi 😆 I love it how they are slowly unraveling him for us, showing us the complexities and depth of his character and still, keep the innocent and naive touch that seems to be a basic part of his personality intact ❤️
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You wrote it too Archi
😆 😆

I did the same

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Originally posted by: MFRanjini

Yes waiting for that


Di..tq for the comment. 😳

Waiting to see more of Rudra's character, to see what is being planned for him.
All the boys are interesting characters but Rudra is such a gem and has so much potential.
I'm biased of course 😉
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Couldn't agree more. He plays the joker to defuse the situation and they let him. They automatically stop to listen and respond to whatever he has to say like its the most important thing in the world. He is their red light 😆 A very cute relationship.
There is more to him than his jokes and his playboy ways.

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