How exactly is this fighting for right? - Page 2

Originally posted by: aqua.m7

I was under the impression that she will go there and give him a piece of her mind. Shout scold even slap him and vowed to keep this marriage intact until her final breath. What he did, he isn't even feeling guilty about it, she should have told him that he has no right to destroy her life and expect her to forget everything.

I really wanted an angry confrontation!

But... again we see the starry eyed zara ready to woo her husband who is being let off easily. I love kabeer but sometimes he really hurts me because he doesn't regard the feelings of those around him and he is somewhat oblivious to the threats to their marriage - the numerous villains roaming freely around the house.

I wanted a sort of revengeful zara, I know I'm probably the only one who wanted this. But she should make him understand that she isn't the same girl who was head or heels in love with him. And that even though her love was true this time he will have to earn it!

Zara please don't let him off that easily it's not fair to you!

P.s I've only watched half of the episode

She doesn't see when she is being unfair to her husband from her high and mighty position and she definitely doesn't see when she is being unfair to herself again from her high and mighty position...in her dictionary, you cannot return home by yourself even if you are the one who has initiated hurt on your husband but it is alright to walk into your home and room,head held high,when you are unwelcome in that home by not just your husband but almost everyone else. Here I was hoping she would fight back: take a separate room as Islam recommends after the first talaq and drag him to court for giving her triple talaq.

Originally posted by: annjose1998

I was hoping that Zara would go to kabir's house and say that they are not divorced. And there she will stay in the house until they become divorced. And she will leave the house after getting divorce...
Zara is a confusing girl to be honest.. she talked all about living without Kabir and not going back until he comes to get her, then when things didn't go the way she wants, in fact went totally wrong, she is trying to get back with Kabir.. like does she not have any real self respect? Ok what she did is wrong by giving a statement against Kabir. She shouldn't have done that. But without discussing divorce with her, e gets mad and decides to kick her out of his life as if it is not her life also. His decision affects her future also. But after getting the divorce, how can she just run after him?? What did she think? That if she tries to woo him, Kabir will just accept her? That is wrong. She should have asked for a divorce also. But since between them no triple talaq can take place, she should said to his face that she is not interested in living with him either and would like to get divorced from him legally.

So I have a question... I'm not Muslim... but In Islam when a husband and wife wants to get divorced, do they not go to a court and sign divorce papers with a lawyer??? Like about saying divorce three times then the 3 month period and all.. but like do they never actually sign divorce papers legally in court???

Yes, just like nikah nama ( marriage contract) there is talaq nama (divorce contract) which will be signed by both the parties. Like marriage, even for divorce, witnesses need to be present and sign on behalf of the person registering it: the husband or the wife. In three months time the divorce will be finalized unless they choose to withdraw it. They don't need to go to court to register their marriage and they don't need to go to court to register their divorce: both can be done from any Kazi office in the area and the Kazi will get it registered in the court of law of a national government. Sharia is Islamic law and Sharia board is Islamic court and usually every country which has Muslim population, especially Asia and the Middle East brings the Sharia law under the national law for smooth operation so in terms of marriage, as long as you are following Sharia law, you will be following the rules of the court in the country.

Originally posted by: arnavkidevani

I also found Zaras character degraded in today's episode as everyone ignored her but she persistently tried to fit back into the family

Zeenat was extremely annoying...I felt like slapping her one😡

I was so busy being ashamed as a woman at Zara's action and the CVs ill handling of something as sensitive as marriage and divorce in Islam, I couldn't muster the energy to be angry at something else.

Technically he doesn't need to divorce her two more times, if he doesn't take her back within 3 months then they are divorced. If in the future they wanted to remarry they could. My question is why does she want to be with the prat'? Love shouldn't be that blind that you let someone treat you like that!

As for her testifying against him. She had to because she was called for evidence. From an Islamic point of view you would have to give evidence whether it be your husband or any family member. Also what credibility would she have as a board member if she didn't show that she wasn't committed to telling the truth.

I Dont like her character because she's been divorced and she's still looking at him like some lovestruck teenager. She needs to do her iddat and move on. Her character is not a good role model for young women.

Originally posted by: rosalineak

I do not understand where Zara's self respect goes when Kabir comes into the frame. He is a chauvinistic pig and the way Zara behaved today is too degrading. He is throwing insults left and right, Zara is just looking like a person who lost her marbles. Zara should have taken another room at least if she wasn't showing her anger on her psycho (ex) husband.

Yeah, I was apalled as a woman as well as a Muslim! She just cannot stay in the same room as him! She was supposed to stay in this house in a separate room and tell him that they are having a period of iddat so they cannot commit to anyone else during this time but she can't wait for this period to be over when she can leave his house and go ahead with her life!

Originally posted by: atiyahv86

Technically he doesn't need to divorce her two more times, if he doesn't take her back within 3 months then they are divorced. If in the future they wanted to remarry they could. My question is why does she want to be with the prat'? Love shouldn't be that blind that you let someone treat you like that!

As for her testifying against him. She had to because she was called for evidence. From an Islamic point of view you would have to give evidence whether it be your husband or any family member. Also what credibility would she have as a board member if she didn't show that she wasn't committed to telling the truth.

I Dont like her character because she's been divorced and she's still looking at him like some lovestruck teenager. She needs to do her iddat and move on. Her character is not a good role model for young women.

No, he doesn't. They just need to wait out this three months and their divorce will be finalized. But Kabeer did not register a talaq nama and neither did Zara (she doesn't seem to have any intention to do so)! Once they are divorced, they can't get back together unless Zara marries and lives as a wife to someone else so I don't think they will go ahead with a complete talaq track: they will reconcile sometime in the next two months. With regards to her statement, it was for her to prioritize what was more important to her. As I said, there is nothing wrong with not keeping your marriage on top of everything else but Zara doesn't seem to be there either! It would be obvious to any married person the repurcussions of such a statement on his/her marriage, so what was Zara doing expecting Kabeer to come and take her back when he just left her at her parents home because of a difference in ideology! Testifying against your spouse in a court (Islamic court in this case) is not normal and cannot be underplayed and it can lead to an end in marriage for many in real life scenario. It is not her testifying that was the problem, it was the fact that she did not assess it's impact on her marriage and believed things would go back to normal from there that was the problem. Had I been in Kabeer's place I would not have tried to fix my marriage (of course I would not have refused to offer the prayer but I am talking about the scenario where my spouse did not just take a public stance against me but proved me to be a criminal in the court of law which cost me my own and my family's reputation. Sharia board is serious business: it is the highest court of law for a Muslim. Had Kabeer not resigned, he would be asked to resign or declared an outcast from the community). Why did Zara underestimate Kabeer's hurt and wrath?

To play another scenario where Zara's marriage was the most important for her, then she had to keep her credibility in the backseat and not testify against Kabeer. And if we are talking about Islam, then even now she is in the period of iddat, what is she doing in Kabeer's room and declaring that they are husband and wife? They are not completely divorced but they are in the process and physical intimacy is forbidden in this stage failure to comply with which will nullify the initiation of divorce.

My point is, either you are a follower of Islam or you are not. Either your marriage is a priority or your ideology. Either you are willing to accomodate with your husband and encourage him to accomodate with you or go separate ways. You can't have everything and anything as per your choice on a given context. If you went to testify against your husband because of Islam, then you should now ask him to go and register talaq nama and take a separate room as per the teachings of Islam for the period of iddat. If your ideology and self-respect are most important then recognize that you can't save this marriage because you cannot follow your ideology and keep your self-respect intact by staying married with this man. If your marriage is most important, then try and accomodate with your husband's wishes. She becomes all religious when at the Sharia board but forgets all teachings when she herself gets divorced. She becomes all about self-respect when she is in her parents home but when she is divorced, she becomes shameless. There is absolutely no consistency in Zara's character just like her lack of consistency in hijab. At one time she convers her hair completely, sometimes only puts a dupatta over her head and when at sharia board wears an abaya with hijab as well! Usually muslims follow any one them.

The way I see it, the concept is good but they are failing in execution. The biggest issue here is that the misrepresentation about the actual talaq processes. The CVs need to get their facts right.

I am not a muslim but I come from a Muslim country and we are very much exposed to the Sharia laws for the muslims. In my country tripple talaq is not an option. You need to follow the right processes and guidelines as per the Islamic laws and courts. Here the bigger issue is the ease in which a man can remarry even when the spouse objects. In my country as long as the male can prove he can provide equally for all his wives .. they can hv multiple wives .. not more than 4

In ISA .. the fact they are opposing tripple talaq is good. But the way they hv framed the talaq process seems wrong. As Zara n Kabeer are supposed to have a counselling and 3 months cooling of period (iddat). None of this is there. Also kabeer should be shown as having a valid reason for talaq. He clearly says he still loves her. Which just negates the whole reason ppl actually divorce.

With Zara , CVs need to decide if her marriage or her social services are more important . As right now it looks like she just finds avenues to rebel and than want to make up with kabeer even though she knows he is against it. The CVs could hv handled this better.

Right now the way it's going it's not a good example for young couples. It just says as long as you have a difference of opinion you can divorce and love is not important. My question here ... is the marriage institution a joke ?

Awesome post. I hope cv's are reading this. The idea is very good. But They have messed up the execution.

Originally posted by: HeavenlyBliss.

i think tthey just want to show why triple talaaq is wrong...in these 3 months Kabeer will change his decision and patch up with her

Well,that is their general idea but they are failing royally. Number one, why would Zara need to write the clause of never getting triple talaq when it has already been banned in India? Number two, if she wants equal rights she should enter the clause wherein she will be able to initiate divorce, not just Kabeer (as most people think in Islam women cannot initiate divorce and only men can, this would have been better to highlight). Third, Kabeer knows triple talaq is illegal so why did he just say it? Number four, what about officiating the divorce, I did not see Kabeer registering for divorce in a Kazi office and Zara receiving a formal divorce letter.

If the purpose of the CVs is to show the evils of triple talaq and how Islam's 3-month iddat period is important as people calm down and patch up within that time, they need to handle the story better. Zara is already in iddat who isn't even behaving like she is in it and Kabeer on the other hand is alreasy behaving like they have already obtained complete divorce.