Vansh, Ridhima & Kabir - At a Snail's Pace - Page 4

Originally posted by: Priya12000

The history is repeating indeed.

Our golden trio is once again in the same place as Phase 1 and are doing what they know and do best

Vansh is back to hiding thinga

Riddhima is back to spying and

Kabir is back to manipulating

Will they make the same mistake as last time or have they learnt anything from it..the conclusion of Phase 3 will reveal.

Vansh

The major growth that we are seeing is of vansh. His current ability to understand riddhima's pov is admirable. The vansh we are seeing now is mixture of 1st 50 episodes VR and the loving husband vansh. But the possessiveness for riddhima, terrified of losing her suggests that he might take a harsh solution during the upcoming marriage track if riddhima tries to leave.

Kabir

Kabir in a way has also learned from his mistakes. He is back to form and it is great to see him manipulate riddhima perfectly just like he did in phase 1. Will he emerge victorious this time too or will his pawn turn the tables??

Riddhima

I have already said in my review post for yesterday's episode that riddhima is once again becoming a pawn of kabir, unintentionally though.

She is not blaming him, yes, but she is still having preconceived notion of him. She has jumped to the conclusion that Vansh is the reason to her parents death..why else would she try to find out where he was during their time of death.

The growth that we want to see now is of Riddhima's. Her current spying though understandable is giving an impression that she has not learnt anything from the past.

It has always been riddhima who had turned the tables at the last moment

It has always been her who has had an edge over vansh and kabir.

At the end of day its always her actions which make or break the game...be it vansh's or kabir's

However her actions especially in the first phase of the story has always provided positive results for kabir and negative for vansh, despite her intentions not being so.

Will this time be any different...Will have to wait and watch.

1. Vansh - earlier if Ridhima says she is leaving he would close the gates, but this Vansh runs behind her. That's amazing growth.

2. Kabir - the same but as said from an outsider he is an insider and this man seems more real than the old one.

3. I agree on all of your points. Now coming to the last point, as phase 1 has shown victory of Kabir in somehow, maybe this phase 2 will be showing Vansh winning. Maybe that's how this time the tables are going to turn and hoping it be the same way. Nothing more or less.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

He is having connections but not a mafia don - yes this point, they can show.

Infact much better than before.

These days they are coming out and shoot again

So may be they will show that journey of his too.

Yeah he is not shown properly mafia don never...thats why always says white collar mafia...means the one who do things taking help in loopholes of law without killings for monetary gains...actually everytime seen a moral bussinessman in tv so I don't want them to change this about vansh and make him typical like that and after clearly showing him one who is in illegal business dealings....I don't want him to change it for Riddhima I want riddhima to accept him that way...😁

Yeah you are right this track is good opportunity to show his past and present but they have to handle it with care becoz revenge track was also going good but just little mistake turned it into something else...

So we again left with wait and watch...

Originally posted by: Nephy

Yeah he is not shown properly mafia don never...thats why always says white collar mafia...means the one who do things taking help in loopholes of law without killings for monetary gains...actually everytime seen a moral bussinessman in tv so I don't want them to change this about vansh and make him typical like that and after clearly showing him one who is in illegal business dealings....I don't want him to change it for Riddhima I want riddhima to accept him that way...😁

Yeah you are right this track is good opportunity to show his past and present but they have to handle it with care becoz revenge track was also going good but just little mistake turned it into something else...

So we again left with wait and watch...

Rahul said many times the makers said it is Mafia don story but however the whole thing changed due to pandemic.

So now they did white-collar person. Now as his past coming up, he can share as you said.

We might revisit those days and who knows we might see that VR back too but before that Ridhima should embrace his darkness.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

1. Vansh - earlier if Ridhima says she is leaving he would close the gates, but this Vansh runs behind her. That's amazing growth.

2. Kabir - the same but as said from an outsider he is an insider and this man seems more real than the old one.

3. I agree on all of your points. Now coming to the last point, as phase 1 has shown victory of Kabir in somehow, maybe this phase 2 will be showing Vansh winning. Maybe that's how this time the tables are going to turn and hoping it be the same way. Nothing more or less.

For me, Vansh's growth apart from what you said is the increase in his emotional quotient in understanding Riddhima's pov. Someone who came to a conclusion by seeing a short clip or audio recording and went i to haiwaan mode, his matured behavior now is impressive.

Even kabir, he acknowledged his mistakes yesterday proving that he very well knows what not to do. He very well has understood the consequences of impulsive decisions.

Now being in the shadows, without letting people know about his existence, he is acting as a puppet master pulling the strings while riddhima does the act.

It will be interesting to see whether the puppet will be able to understand that there is a string attached to her back and break free before all hell breaks loose.

Hoping your point no 3 is right. That would prove the growth in riddhima's character

And i feel this is Phase 3 not phase 2

Phase 1 was the first track where all three had their own motives and their actions were towards accomplishing their goals

Phase 2 was the repercussions track which followed where all three of them faced the consequences of their respective actions in phase 1.

Phase 3 is the current track..the new beginning where the past has come knocking their door..their actions are giving a sense of deja vu to us fans as its same as phase 1. Thats why we wonder if history will repeat

Originally posted by: Priya12000

For me, Vansh's growth apart from what you said is the increase in his emotional quotient in understanding Riddhima's pov. Someone who came to a conclusion by seeing a short clip or audio recording and went i to haiwaan mode, his matured behavior now is impressive.

Even kabir, he acknowledged his mistakes yesterday proving that he very well knows what not to do. He very well has understood the consequences of impulsive decisions.

Now being in the shadows, without letting people know about his existence, he is acting as a puppet master pulling the strings while riddhima does the act.

It will be interesting to see whether the puppet will be able to understand that there is a string attached to her back and break free before all hell breaks loose.

Hoping your point no 3 is right. That would prove the growth in riddhima's character

And i feel this is Phase 3 not phase 2

Phase 1 was the first track where all three had their own motives and their actions were towards accomplishing their goals

Phase 2 was the repercussions track which followed where all three of them faced the consequences of their respective actions in phase 1.

Phase 3 is the current track..the new beginning where the past has come knocking their door..their actions are giving a sense of deja vu to us fans as its same as phase 1. Thats why we wonder if history will repeat

Would accept your Vansh and Kabir Points.

Ridhima - yes, I do. If that's how she turns the tables then we can all it is as utmost growth. I said this also in one of the posts in the same thread if Ridhima turns the manipulator making Kabir believe she is doing what he said but then change the entire game, that would make them give the character an amazing growth.

Yes, not in sense of manipulator but as you said to turn the tables and make Vansh win. Infact, rather than expecting I want this to happen because, if she doesn't and history repeats, what is the makers wanted to show? Like every time Ridhima always bring doom to Vansh by becoming a pawn of Kabir?

If the graph needed to be shown then this time the ending should be changed. I think makers will try to show this - but rest Ridhim ka Bappa ki haath mein hein.

I agree, this is phase 3.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

Rahul said many times the makers said it is Mafia don story but however the whole thing changed due to pandemic.

So now they did white-collar person. Now as his past coming up, he can share as you said.

We might revisit those days and who knows we might see that VR back too but before that Ridhima should embrace his darkness.

@bold-yeah I agree actually Rrahul also himself said that but maybe we can see it or maybe not...don't want to keep hopes....already used to get depressed thinking about it and if by any chance in furture they show he was never into illegal businesses or mafia bussinesses or he had no connection even at all with mafia,it would become difficult to accept than....after all its tv and people don't know, who people, are obsessed with lighter shades of whiteness in hero heroine.

however point is even riddhima is many times not shown into that white shade of female lead as she will use truth serum today on dadi...and even dadi is not shown to be completely moral like denied to acknowledge riddhima...maybe they can show Vansh as mafia connected businessman but still just don't want to give myself any hope.I am very terrified to keep hope with this serial,they have actually left so many loopholes so much discontinuity that expecting something good terrifies me...

I just want them to atleast show one track completely with proper start and end with answers not more questions for viewers....even if it is done by making vansh typical lead and riddhima again same as starting like doubting on vansh listening to kabir but atleast they show a proper execution.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

Earlier it used to be.

Nowadays that patience is being lost by everyone as many channels and shows are present

Also a point of time no matter what people bring the same regular points that also makes other sector of audience like watching regular ITV

I totally agree with and not to mention the negativity that is prominent anyway about bringing the same regular track let's be honest all ITV shows at one point do regular tracks but its the way tracks are treated and presented is what determines how unique different or cliche and regular the show is. So it all depends on how the tracks are presented to us by makers.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

Would accept your Vansh and Kabir Points.

Ridhima - yes, I do. If that's how she turns the tables then we can all it is as utmost growth. I said this also in one of the posts in the same thread if Ridhima turns the manipulator making Kabir believe she is doing what he said but then change the entire game, that would make them give the character an amazing growth.

Yes, not in sense of manipulator but as you said to turn the tables and make Vansh win. Infact, rather than expecting I want this to happen because, if she doesn't and history repeats, what is the makers wanted to show? Like every time Ridhima always bring doom to Vansh by becoming a pawn of Kabir?

If the graph needed to be shown then this time the ending should be changed. I think makers will try to show this - but rest Ridhim ka Bappa ki haath mein hein.

I agree, this is phase 3.

Exactly that's the thing that i dread about riddhima's character arc..that she ll always be the down fall of vansh whether intentionally or unintentionally.. that's why i keep emphasising that she has not learnt from her mistakes.

Hope your last para comes true..this time the Ending should be different....this time even if the remarriage takes place again with any ulterior motives of riddhima, hope its the queen making the moves and not the pawn.

Originally posted by: Priya12000

Exactly that's the thing that i dread about riddhima's character arc..that she ll always be the down fall of vansh whether intentionally or unintentionally.. that's why i keep emphasising that she has not learnt from her mistakes.

Hope your last para comes true..this time the Ending should be different....this time even if the remarriage takes place again with any ulterior motives of riddhima, hope its the queen making the moves and not the pawn.

I too agree on the point that, it shouldn't be always Ridhima being his downfall then there wouldn't be any character growth for Ridhima. No learnings from the past.

If she is able to change then only we can show the right arc, if not the same old Ridhima with some slight changes but nothing major can say, she not only be the doom of Vansh but she can be the light and raise him into more heights.

Agree she is his protector by taking bullets 2 times but Ridhima character is no only for taking bullet, the arc can be completed if she can be the rightful Queen for him than Kabir pawn.

Originally posted by: Nephy

@bold-yeah I agree actually Rrahul also himself said that but maybe we can see it or maybe not...don't want to keep hopes....already used to get depressed thinking about it and if by any chance in furture they show he was never into illegal businesses or mafia bussinesses or he had no connection even at all with mafia,it would become difficult to accept than....after all its tv and people don't know, who people, are obsessed with lighter shades of whiteness in hero heroine.

however point is even riddhima is many times not shown into that white shade of female lead as she will use truth serum today on dadi...and even dadi is not shown to be completely moral like denied to acknowledge riddhima...maybe they can show Vansh as mafia connected businessman but still just don't want to give myself any hope.I am very terrified to keep hope with this serial,they have actually left so many loopholes so much discontinuity that expecting something good terrifies me...

I just want them to atleast show one track completely with proper start and end with answers not more questions for viewers....even if it is done by making vansh typical lead and riddhima again same as starting like doubting on vansh listening to kabir but atleast they show a proper execution.

All are flawed. Ridhima will also use the tricks when she wants to know something. Today using ruth serum on Dadi and long back making Sia slip from her chair to delete the drunken video of her and Kabir confrontation.

The thing is she doesn't harm in that process where as Kabir and Vansh does the harm. Yes, whatever she does hurt to the heart because a person like Ridhima doing it is very wrong. If same done by Vansh or Kabir - we say that is how they are.

Because either maker wanted to show her a pure girl or girl with some flaws but nothing major as Kabir and Vansh.

They even made a straight montage of Ridhima, which indicates she is a straightforward person with some flaws in her which we already seeing a few and might see some in the future