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Exactly my question. If she had so much problem why can't she speak for herself? Why depend on Arjun? Why leave it to Yudhi? She should have said herself. Now the slightest thing against this question EPanchali cn say is Yudhistir didn't ask for her opinion. But that will be pointless. That means if Yudhistir doesn't say she will not say anything against such adharm? 😕

I am also talking about EPanchali.

And saying that I feel Panchali was happy with marrying Pandavs does not mean that I fe she was a bad woman. I respect her regardless of she was happy with the decision or not.

I always try to convince people this thing that loving all Pandavas does not make her a bad woman. I think this from spiritual perspective but even if we keep it aside, she cannot be hated for her polyandry for the same reason we don't blame Krishna or Arjun for their polygamy. Draupadi was born to establish a new horizon for women, so if she did not have the courage to be equal with men then who else had? Rather I would give Pandavas full marks for not thinking that multiple marriage is only mens right, not womens. You know that Drupad protested it. He said that a man is allowed to marry multiple times but not a woman. So I think Drupad is sounding like a male chauvinist here who does not treat males and females equally.

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

Amrita by doing that we are also showing we have the same mindset like the people you talked about!! Dear do you also think the same? I am sure you don't! See, people just need another thing to talk about! So is it a solution to say Kunti or Yudhi is at blame? And Kunti is definitely not at fault! Even if I accept Yudhishthir at fault, then too it was a mistake for Kunti. She was guilty so she put the decision making part of Yudhistir !!
And another thing Amrita. Mahabharat is set in the Later Vedic Age! It is not the same in Kalyug. If we try to analyse mb from today's pov thenany things will chsnge! In the modern thought process, I would not even accept the fact that "Pandavs won coz Dharm was with them". Anyways, coming back to point we should see it from the pov of Dwapar Yug and not Kalyug.

Draupadi is Draupadi. No matter what people say, she is and always will be among the best of women

That is the problem Brishti...People forget that we are dealing with characters of a different age...I have seen people beating drums n trumpets n wat not about 'Sutaputra' comment but they all forget that she lived in an age, when EVERYONE was a casteist...Why blame Draupadi alone then? If the caste issue is to be addressed, then all the characters should be blamed...Why alone Draupadi?

The same thing is applicable for the polyandry thing as well...Yudisthir had stated a few polyandrous women before marrying Draupadi...which means that polyandry was practised in our culture in special cases.. .
But who cares about these facts? People just hurl illiterate comments...that's it.


As for wat I feel about polyandry...honestly, I dont know. Like most other controversial stuff, this is another topic, where I certainly struggle to get clarity of thought...There are times when I believe she agreed willingly...n other times when I feel she agreed bcoz she had no other option...Polyandry is NOT wrong, but at the same time it's rare n somethingwe are not accustomed with...So, I find it hard to accept that she happily accepted it...
As for y she didnt say anything, like Anu said, who knows,maybe her words were edited, although there is no proof of that...

Originally posted by: Urmila11

I always try to convince people this thing that loving all Pandavas does not make her a bad woman. I think this from spiritual perspective but even if we keep it aside, she cannot be hated for her polyandry for the same reason we don't blame Krishna or Arjun for their polygamy. Draupadi was born to establish a new horizon for women, so if she did not have the courage to be equal with men then who else had? Rather I would give Pandavas full marks for not thinking that multiple marriage is only mens right, not womens. You know that Drupad protested it. He said that a man is allowed to marry multiple times but not a woman. So I think Drupad is sounding like a male chauvinist here who does not treat males and females equally.

No matter u say...this double standard will eternally remain in our mindset... 😭
We humans can never get over our hypocrisy when it comes to these matters...

Brishti, Pirate King, Sadhna and Urmila

If polyandry was common, then why did Yudhi have to talk about examples before he could convince his brothers? When I send my kids to school, I don't have to explain to my hubby and both sets of grandparents that X Y and Z families do it.

Anu,

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Brishti, Pirate King, Sadhna and Urmila

That is precisely my point. A lot of claims have been made that Panchali was quite happy with the division. When I made a counterclaim, we see that although there is nothing to prove it, there is nothing to disprove it either. We just don't know what she thought of it. What we do know is that she made the best of the situation she found herself in. <font color="#cc0000">Panchali's silence does not excuse Yudhi or Arjun</font>

If polyandry was common, then why did Yudhi have to talk about examples before he could convince his brothers? When I send my kids to school, I don't have to explain to my hubby and both sets of grandparents that X Y and Z families do it.

Brishti, when Amba decided to go to Shalya and then was rejected by all concerned she went to Panchal to kill herself. If Panchali rejected the idea and Arjun was quite clearly unwilling to disobey his mother and brother, she would have faced the same fate. SInce none of them were blind, deaf or mentally challenged, they surely had heard of Amba's story. Panchali chose to live. I will blame Yudhi for devising this scheme and Arjun for not objecting to it. When we say, THOSE WERE THE TIMES, about everything else, this too happened under those times, where she would have had to acquiesce or die. So yeah, Arjun who won her and led her from her father's place does have blame attached to him. But I can understand he was too young to protest unlike what he did in the DS after VH

Amrita, who is doing the caste talk? 1) Sutaputra comment is not there in all versions and was not considered authentic enough to include in CE 2) Even if it was, we are talking her marriage at which she is quite free to say who she will go for. Marriage by nature is a prejudicial exercise. If I say I want a man who is 6'2", dark hired, dark eyed, has a bad tendency to watch ESPN 24X7 and drinks more Pepsi than I would like, it does not make me height-ist, color-eist, anti-sports or anti-Coca Cola. A wedding is not an equal opportunity exercise; even if Drupad made it a contest, (going by the THOSE WERE THE TIMES argument, am sure no one gave her the right to even speak up) she should have ideally had at least veto power.

bold-U know who... 😉, though I am talking of past experiences...Just wanted to draw an analogy...
So I brought up the Swamvar topic...

As for the sharing, honestly I am CONFUSED... 😆
Dont know wat to believe but the 'smiles' n 'looks' theory really drives me up the wall...

Thats OK😆

Anu, I think I have lost the plot. I was under the assumption that I was arguing for the exact same thing-she sensed where her duties/ambition lay and went in for it. The ethical considerations are not my forte and hence I never mentioned right and wrong. And I certainly don't like boxed up ideas so I am actually open to ALL existing theories of sharing and her approval. I would definitely like to harmonise contradictions rather than negate them, but I guess I am not too successful in doing so.

We are arguing the same thing. I was just going one level further and arguing that she may have had a part in the strategy. And the ethical part of it does matter, but it only impacted Arjun and not Panchali (if she had a part in the planning)