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Brishti, if Panchali is accusing him for 'lust' then I cannot agree. I always know that lust makes a man blind, senseless. If a lusty Yudhi offered Arjun to marry Panchali alone, if a lusty Yudhi thought of his family's future & brothers' bonding then I would say that such a selfless lust can never be seen!
Also, why did he not have Panchali at that night? Why did he allow her to sleep separately? On the next day when Drupad offered him to marry Panchali then he did not say, "look brothers, the girl's father wants me, what can I do now? So let me marry her alone" if he said so, none of his brothers could protest, they obeyed him at once. But Yudhi did not do so. Which lusty would share his desired woman with brothers? Which lusty would accept the one year rule happily? I never think any of Pandavas had 'lust'. If they had not enough self-restriction they could never make such happy relation with Panchali.
As for Keechak, he told Panchali that her husbands have seen everything, they would take necessary steps. That sentence assured Panchali and also gave Bheem a green signal to take step. You know that Bheem could do nothing without Yudhi's order/permission so here Yudhi gave him that. At that situation, they were in aggyatavas so he could not make it clearer.
Sorry if I have hurt you 😊

Urmila

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Brishti, if Panchali is accusing him for 'lust' then I cannot agree. I always know that lust makes a man blind, senseless. If a lusty Yudhi offered Arjun to marry Panchali alone, if a lusty Yudhi thought of his family's future & brothers' bonding then I would say that such a selfless lust can never be seen!
Also, why did he not have Panchali at that night? Why did he allow her to sleep separately? On the next day when Drupad offered him to marry Panchali then he did not say, "look brothers, the girl's father wants me, what can I do now? So let me marry her alone" if he said so, none of his brothers could protest, they obeyed him at once. But Yudhi did not do so. Which lusty would share his desired woman with brothers? Which lusty would accept the one year rule happily? I never think any of Pandavas had 'lust'. If they were not enough self-restriction they could never make such happy relation with Panchali.
Sorry if I have hurt you 😊

No no not lust.. I am trying to say the thing Panchaali said about Yudhi being the happiest on Panchali getting divided.. Maybe he also wanted have her.. I feel he just felt a sense of possession for her.. Like all the other brothers he too wanted to be with Panchaali.. And that wasn't right from Panchaali's POV coz she was already to be married to Arjun.
Have u seen in the last thread that the moment they announced Yudhi to be accused.. I said where is Semanti.. She is needed 😆 See I don't hate Yudhi.. I have immense respect for him..

But as another thing, you read in Dr Bhaduris research book what he interpreted Yudhis asking Panchali to marry only Arjun be? I don't agree.. I don't think Yudhi was shrewd. All I feel is maybe he secretly desired Panchaali. But Dr Bhaduris said that Yudhi knew Arjun would refuse and that is why he asked Arjun to be on safe side. But that only says Yudhi was a cunning fellow. And my understanding tells me something else. Yudhishthir is not as bad as people say he is

Anu Di.. I agree on the first part. I also feel Panchali didn't have "love at first sight" with Arjuna also 😆 but she must have convinced herself that he is the one who she will spent her life with.. So she had feelings for him.. Liked it. I don't think she feel madly in love with anyone. So the division thing definitely was a shock for Panchaali! And yea, Arjun was robbed for sure!!!! 😆

But Semanti.. I don't think Bheem would wait for Yudhis permission.. I have that against Bheem. He was over excited in all cases and isn't that the reason Panchaali went to Bheem for help and not Arjun/ Yudhi. Okay.. I understand Yudhis statement. And I accept we can clear that arop from Yudhishthir, but even in that occasion I don't think Bheem was such a character.. Arjun was. He would not do anything without Yudhis permission at all but the element of calmness was lacking in Bheem. See, Yudhis statement could have had a relieving effect on Panchaali.. (If she wasn't raged on Yudhi about previous incidents) but Yudhi cannot be called the signaller in case of Keechak Vadh.

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

No no not lust.. I am trying to say the thing Panchaali said about Yudhi being the happiest on Panchali getting divided.. Maybe he also wanted have her.. I feel he just felt a sense of possession for her.. Like all the other brothers he too wanted to be with Panchaali.. And that wasn't right from Panchaali's POV coz she was already to be married to Arjun.
Have u seen in the last thread that the moment they announced Yudhi to be accused.. I said where is Semanti.. She is needed 😆 See I don't hate Yudhi.. I have immense respect for him..

But as another thing, you read in Dr Bhaduris research book what he interpreted Yudhis asking Panchali to marry only Arjun be? I don't agree.. I don't think Yudhi was shrewd. All I feel is maybe he secretly desired Panchaali. But Dr Bhaduris said that Yudhi knew Arjun would refuse and that is why he asked Arjun to be on safe side. But that only says Yudhi was a cunning fellow. And my understanding tells me something else. Yudhishthir is not as bad as people say he is

As for Dr. Bhaduri's theory, I do not agree with it as well. But you know what, poor guy suffered a pressure on his head after Kunti left everything on him. Try to imagine yourself at his place, your respected mother is ordering you to keep both sides which contradict each other! What could be his mental condition at that time 😭 everybody feels Panchali's pain, fear but none cares for Yudhi's dharma sankat, Arjun's poor condition where he neither could reject the girl nor could marry alone, Kunti's extreme fear & guilt---none notices these things 😭 anyway, my take is, Yudhi was going to violate even his mother's order for a greater dharma, and that is, saving a young girl's dream who just came to his family. Even if he had a secret passion for her, he did not think of himself, just uttered what is fair & what is the best. His words are, 'twaya jitaa Phalguna Yagyaseni twayaiva shobhishyati raajputra' note the word twayaiva, it means 'you only'. If Arjun accepted it then Panchali was not shared. But then Arjun put another issue that my eldest is unmarried so how can I marry 😕 I think this statement raised Yudhi's blood pressure once again. Bechara somehow found a solution but then another problem came 😭
You know, I wish if I would have been there then I could marry Yudhi & solve everything 😆
Edit: yes i saw your post & replied too 😊 I know you respect him!

Well, seems here nobody believe in the past birth theory 😕 but without believing in it, we would not believe in Geeta & without believing in Geeta, what is the need of reading the Mahabharata? What is the problem to accept the fact that theirs was a janam janam ka rishta so they were destined to be together?

Originally posted by: varaali

What actually does Nishada mean / refer to ?

Lol 🤣 🤣 Yes that would be the best option.. Then Arjun could marry Drau and all. I wonder didn't Arjun think about this eldest not marrying when he was garlanded by Panchali 😕 Ya and all that you said, I agree with you because I hate this concept of Yudhisthir was A kabab mein haddi in between ArDi.. Oh goodness!!! Firstly after the marriage , Yudhi is Panchalis husband too. Secondly, Arjun was the one who said no.. What is Yudhis fault. I am not saying Arjun is wrong.. But Yudhi had to do something na.. 😆
Dr Bhaduri doesn't clear the fact that what actually could have been done in that case. In Arjuns analysis he just says Yudhi did it so that Arjun accepts. But like in other issues he says, this could have happened, he doesn't solve the problem for Yudhi. I always try to say nobody sees the other side. And I feel Panchaali wasn't that much in pain. I mean..we discussed this before! She I feel accepted it happily. But even if that is the case, Then also Yudhi too had problems, Arjun had to see that he is not at fault and Kunti had to put her guilt on someone else!

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Well, seems here nobody believe in the past birth theory 😕 but without believing in it, we would not believe in Geeta & without believing in Geeta, what is the need of reading the Mahabharata? What is the problem to accept the fact that theirs was a janam janam ka rishta so they were destined to be together?

Even without divinity and past birth theory, MB makes an interesting read😊 . Every one reads it with a diff mindset and also takes away diff aspects from the story. It is not necessary to belive the story to enjoy it😊