Star Plus 'Siya Ke Ram' - discussion thread - Page 14

Originally posted by: crazygul

director of the show nikhil sinha and aashish sharma came to our city for promotion of this show and director saheb said that is is based on valmiki Ramayan and dont have fictional story. aashish sharma said he was happy to be part of this show. i read this in local news paper.

Originally posted by: crazygul

director of the show nikhil sinha and aashish sharma came to our city for promotion of this show and director saheb said that is is based on valmiki Ramayan and dont have fictional story. aashish sharma said he was happy to be part of this show. i read this in local news paper.

I can live w/ people coming out w/ 'creative' (read: fictional) interpretations of the epics. But when they start claiming that they are following Valmiki, that's being dishonest. The last Ramayan of Sagar Pictures at least initially claimed to follow Tulsidas, even though they were pulling stuff at random out of Shiva Purana and so on.

If a serial follows Valmiki, then from a Sita centric standpoint, it would show Sita's birth, Janaka's war w/ the ruler who wanted Sita's hand in marriage as well as the bow, and everything that's there in Valmiki about Sita. Minus the inventions of Vyasa, Tulsidas, Kamban and other subsequent writers. If they are going to mix up Valmiki w/ anything, don't call it Valmiki since that's downright misleading and an exercise in sophistry

WOW thats actually too good i just wish that they donot show sita in a light that was not anywhere written like DKDM many things were above my understanding...

i am just fan of sagar's ramayan both RSR and ASR's

Any show following Valmiki's ramayan pr Ramacharitmanas strictly cannot by definition show uttar kand - ie. abandonment, luv kush etc since its not originally written by Valmiki but was a later addition. And the abandonment is the main crux for a sita-centric ramayana.

I find it exasperating that when both Valmiki ramayana and Ramacharitmanas does not mention sita's banishment (they end with Ram's coronation), people are just not ready to accept a ramayana without the abandonment episode. Even when Ramayana was being recited to Yudi in Mahabhata , it stops with Rama's coronation

😒 its like telling kids "santa claus is not real" - they will never believe it!!😔

Originally posted by: bhas1066

Any show following Valmiki's ramayan pr Ramacharitmanas strictly cannot by definition show uttar kand - ie. abandonment, luv kush etc since its not originally written by Valmiki but was a later addition. And the abandonment is the main crux for a sita-centric ramayana.

I find it exasperating that when both Valmiki ramayana and Ramacharitmanas does not mention sita's banishment (they end with Ram's coronation), people are just not ready to accept a ramayana without the abandonment episode. Even when Ramayana was being recited to Yudi in Mahabhata , it stops with Rama's coronation

😒 its like telling kids "santa claus is not real" - they will never believe it!!😔

Originally posted by: bhas1066

Any show following Valmiki's ramayan pr Ramacharitmanas strictly cannot by definition show uttar kand - ie. abandonment, luv kush etc since its not originally written by Valmiki but was a later addition. And the abandonment is the main crux for a sita-centric ramayana.

I find it exasperating that when both Valmiki ramayana and Ramacharitmanas does not mention sita's banishment (they end with Ram's coronation), people are just not ready to accept a ramayana without the abandonment episode. Even when Ramayana was being recited to Yudi in Mahabhata , it stops with Rama's coronation

😒 its like telling kids "santa claus is not real" - they will never believe it!!😔

On the Valmiki side, while there is a school of thought that contests whether the Uttarkand was really a part of it or not, it is legitimate for a show that shows Uttarkand to claim it is Valmiki. However, major stipulation here - it would then have to show the past of Ravan, Vali and Hanuman, as narrated by Agastya and other rishis to Rama, and it cannot show Luv or Kush capturing the horse or battling Shatrughan, Lakshman and Bharat. Since Valmikis account of Rama's yagna had the horse go unchallenged, as well as several side stories that modern viewers might consider boring - like the talking dog which was the Kalapati of Kalanjar, and so on, that's what anybody would have to show. And while showing the yagna, they'd have to show KL declining offerings by LBS, since Valmiki had raised them to be frugal. Also, after Sita's descent, they'd have to be shown as resuming the singing of the rest of the epic, including events that were destined to happen later. I wonder whether there were any shows that ever showed all this.

Tulsidas did have a Uttarkand, but that didn't involve any real events in Ayodhya. Rather, it was the story of a crow kagbhushandi narrating the Ramayan to Garuda. As far as shows go, it was there in the 3rd and 4th episodes of Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan, but I'm not aware of any other show that had it.

The common Ramayan endings that you describe - ending w/ the Rajyabhishek - are the ones that give one the 'happily ever after' ending. Something that one doesn't get w/ the Uttarkand and the return to Vaikunta

Nikhil Sinha saying this show will follow Valmiki's Ramayan but some time ago I read an article where they said this show will follow DevDutt Patnayak's research just like they did with DKDM..watching " DevLok with DevDutt Patnayak " and as far as he talk about Ramayan n Mahabharata...I am impressed...he answered all the questions very well so if they follow his research then I don't mind but I feel that they will add lots of fictions which Patnayak sir never mentioned in his research just like DKDM...

Hello.

At this point in television, everyone should prepare to see a lot of fiction in this show. There is no mythological show to this date that has zero fiction interspersed with the story. Even my favorite NDTV Ramayan had fiction during many of the tracks.