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i have a doubt in this para in KMG before yudi stakes his brothers:

""Yudhishthira said,--These princes here, O king, who look resplendent in their ornaments and their ear-rings and Nishkas and all the royal ornaments on their persons are now my wealth. With this wealth, O king, I play with thee. Vaisampayana said,--"Hearing this, Sakuni, ready with his dice, adopting foul means, said unto Yudhishthira, 'Lo! I have won them.'"Yudhishthira said,--'This Nakula here, of mighty arms and leonine neck, of red eyes and endued with youth, is now my one stake. Know that he is my wealth.'

The Mahabharata, Book 2: Sabha Parva: Sisupala-badha Parva: Section LXIV"


@ red " who are the princes yudi is talking about here ? are they pandavas sons? were they present during the VH?

These princes are Bheem Arjun Nakul Sahadev, not Pandava children.
Read last part of Sabha Parva. No mention of children. They were not present during dice game. Neither did they followed their parents to exile. But there you go. In Van Parva when Krishna came to meet them, Dhristadyumna too was with Him. Finally we can see Dhrista taking Draupadi's children with him. (We may assume Abhi did not come there to meet Pandavas, later Subhadra took him to Dwaraka. Because we can see later that Abhi and UP were already in Dwaraka. Vyas Dev did not tell us when UP shifted to Dwaraka.) So where did Dhrista get his nephews from? They did not come to forest, then? So there is only one possibility. We can assume that children were in IP when dice game was taking place. Later Krishna, Dhrista etc came and took the babies with them. Children met their parents once and then went to Kampilya, and probably few years later, to Dwaraka.

@urmila

that what i thought earier too since they dont mention them anyehere else but then read the sentence again(see in black below) - yudi stakes the " princes" and shakuni rolls the dice and says "i have won". Then he stakes BANS one after the other. I he had already lost them how does he stake them again. If not , then who was on stake then when shakuni says he won?? or just a repetition in KMG??

""Yudhishthira said,--These princes here, O king, who look resplendent in their ornaments and their ear-rings and Nishkas and all the royal ornaments on their persons are now my wealth. With this wealth, O king, I play with thee. Vaisampayana said,--"Hearing this, Sakuni, ready with his dice, adopting foul means, said unto Yudhishthira, 'Lo! I have won them.'"Yudhishthira said,--'This Nakula here, of mighty arms and leonine neck, of red eyes and endued with youth, is now my one stake. Know that he is my wealth.'

Oho KMG has changed the whole thing. Sorry I did not notice earlier. I will post the original verse ASAP. It says that ornaments of princes were staked at that hand, not the princes themselves.

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Oho KMG has changed the whole thing. Sorry I did not notice earlier. I will post the original verse ASAP. It says that ornaments of princes were staked at that hand, not the princes themselves.

aaah! now that makes sense. thanks!

Hi everyone. I am a complete novice when it comes to scriptures. And am overjoyed by the number of knowledgeable people in this forum.

Originally posted by: Druids

Hi everyone. I am a complete novice when it comes to scriptures. And am overjoyed by the number of knowledgeable people in this forum.

I have a query. Who was the ninth avatar o Lord Vishnu? Many places say Buddha and many say Lord Ayappa.

I don't know much about Lord Ayappa but apparently the Sabarimala pilgrimage is held in His honour.

It seems to me that Buddha cannot be an avatar as all the other avatars were already enlightened/ god-like by birth. But Lord Buddha had to struggle for salvation. He left home and then went to many gurus and finally got enlightenment under the Bodhi tree.