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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

So Rama was 17 years old.. okay.. Interesting.


Kshatriyas Thread Ceremony is performed at the age of 11...correct me if I'm wrong.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh


Kshatriyas Thread Ceremony is performed at the age of 11...correct me if I'm wrong.

But then I learnt that Rama's upanayanam was done at the age of 5..
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Posted: 11 years ago
Ok, next doubt.
This might be a disputed doubt.
Many people say that Radha is a fictional character. They say, she is not there in Bhagavatam, and only in folktales, and she emerges as a predominant character only in Gita Govinda of Jayadeva. So she emerges only in 12th century AD etc.

Hm.. so these people read only Mahabharata and Bhagavatam, and say she is fictional.
Whereas, she is clearly mentioned in the other Puranas such as Shiva Purana. And in the Matsya, Padma, Devi Bhagavata, Narada and Brahmavaivarta Puranas as well as Radha Upanishad and Radhika Tapaniya Upanishad, she is glorified.
So, if there is a gopika stri, a Goddess, who is glorified in the Puranas and upanishads, why do people say she "emerged" only in the 12th century?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -Shani-

I have a question regarding the Mahabharata, and my question is related to the epic (not the televised / film versions) -

During mahaprasthanika, when Draupadi dies, Yudhishthira states that she had a soft spot for Arjuna despite being expected to treat all her husbands equally. That was given as the reason for her death.

Were there really any instances within the epic itself which may suggest that Draupadi MAY have veered towards Arjuna more as compared to her other hubbies? If so, could you please name those instances?

If there is no evidence to back Yudhishthira's claims within the epic itself, then on what basis did Yudhishthira make this particular assumption of Draupadi being partial towards Arjuna?


I don't know whom she loved more but recently I've encountered a line from Kichaka-badha Parva where Draupadi wakes Bhim.Bhim asks her 'For what purpose hast thou come hither in such a hurry?'
Draupadi replied - ''What grief hath she not who hath Yudhishthira for her husband?😆Knowing all my griefs, why dost thou ask me?'

Perhaps Yudishtir was aware of this hence he felt Draupadi wasn't happy with him.🤔

Link to these lines from Mahabharat - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04018.htm
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Cool-n-Fresh

I don't know whom she loved more but recently I've encountered a line from Kichaka-badha Parva where Draupadi wakes Bhim.Bhim asks her 'For what purpose hast thou come hither in such a hurry?'
Draupadi replied - ''What grief hath she not who hath Yudhishthira for her husband?😆Knowing all my griefs, why dost thou ask me?'

Perhaps Yudishtir was aware of this hence he felt Draupadi wasn't happy with him.🤔

Link to these lines from Mahabharat - http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m04/m04018.htm

She actually said that?🤣
Poor Yudi!! His heart would have 🥺
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

She actually said that?🤣
Poor Yudi!! His heart would have 🥺


Really!I've rubbed my eyes twice and read it a couple of times.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Ok, next doubt.

This might be a disputed doubt.
Many people say that Radha is a fictional character. They say, she is not there in Bhagavatam, and only in folktales, and she emerges as a predominant character only in Gita Govinda of Jayadeva. So she emerges only in 12th century AD etc.

Hm.. so these people read only Mahabharata and Bhagavatam, and say she is fictional.
Whereas, she is clearly mentioned in the other Puranas such as Shiva Purana. And in the Matsya, Padma, Devi Bhagavata, Narada and Brahmavaivarta Puranas as well as Radha Upanishad and Radhika Tapaniya Upanishad, she is glorified.
So, if there is a gopika stri, a Goddess, who is glorified in the Puranas and upanishads, why do people say she "emerged" only in the 12th century?


I think this has no straight answer so better make a main topic.People like me can learn only through discussions.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Ok, next doubt.

This might be a disputed doubt.
Many people say that Radha is a fictional character. They say, she is not there in Bhagavatam, and only in folktales, and she emerges as a predominant character only in Gita Govinda of Jayadeva. So she emerges only in 12th century AD etc.

Hm.. so these people read only Mahabharata and Bhagavatam, and say she is fictional.
Whereas, she is clearly mentioned in the other Puranas such as Shiva Purana. And in the Matsya, Padma, Devi Bhagavata, Narada and Brahmavaivarta Puranas as well as Radha Upanishad and Radhika Tapaniya Upanishad, she is glorified.
So, if there is a gopika stri, a Goddess, who is glorified in the Puranas and upanishads, why do people say she "emerged" only in the 12th century?


well, ppl say that RADHA emerged in d 12th century coz though she is mentioned in various puranas but it not clearly known if those were originally written or added later...in simpler words, unabridged versions of all our ancient texts have not yet been identified...n lots of ppl believe that some parts considered as PURANAS may have been added to the original versions later...just like how VALMIKI ka ramayan ends after ram comes back to ayodhya...it doesn't mention d story of SITA VANVAS...n yet u have that story of sita vanvas n luv-kush everywhere!!!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
@cool-n-fresh, surya...unabridged versions of even MAHABHARAT are not yet identified...there is still lots of debate among historians regarding the length of that original version...so, ur online links to such texts may be d ones that u commonly find in folklore or later versions...plz DO NOT BELIEVE THEM TO BE AUTHENTIC!!!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
You just want to prove there is no Radha.

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