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Posted: 3 years ago
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Par par par,

Hum Galat Kab The ? 🥺


Jokes apart since this is about a serious patrakaar.

Brilliant Post as usual Blues ! The consequences of his actions especially in a profession like this are bound to have disastrous effects if not handled with precision. Aditya lacks severely in a lot of aspects, he is very one dimensional in his approach. While he started out trying to fight for the under dogs or fighting for reform which might help the masses but his naiveté in not recognizing people- their motives and intentions included failed his professional and personal life, his excessive self righteousness which bordered to the point of condescension and unwillingness to accept his flaws have been the biggest reason of his downfall. Professionally and personally yet again.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I love this post, I wanted to do something similar. Kudos for pointing out the obvious.

In any field be it journalism, finance, data analysis, etc there is something called professional integrity which is defined as:

Professional integrity thus defines the professional who consistently and willingly practices within the guidelines of the mission of a chosen profession under the obligation of a Code of Ethics.


Code of Ethics now is different in every profession but I am not unless specifically mentioned no job out there wants tloss of life or livelihood and/or push someone in danger willingly.


Aditya may have been given premeditated proofs about Arvind's wrongdoing but before he published the news it was his Moral and Professional obligation to ensure the authenticity of the news. Did he speak with actual employees of the company, take interview of a wide sample to see if the general population views versus views of a few were biased? Probably not.


And if people think there are no consequences of bad reporting and publishing let's remember the MMR vaccine controversy published by Andrew Wakefield in Lancet.

Because he made a comment that vaccines cause autism, diseases that were eradicated are coming back, the newspaper made a full retraction but the effects of such news is still ongoing.

Many researchers and pharma companies instead of spending money on developing new medications are still trying to disapprove the fact the Vaccine DO NOT cause Autism.

Of course ITV, Logic and Accountability rarely go hand in hand so our Serious Patrakaar will be now whitewashed with Nirma, Ujala and Surf..


What a Joke!

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: nmurali

I love this post, I wanted to do something similar. Kudos for pointing out the obvious.

In any field be it journalism, finance, data analysis, etc there is something called professional integrity which is defined as:

Professional integrity thus defines the professional who consistently and willingly practices within the guidelines of the mission of a chosen profession under the obligation of a Code of Ethics.


Code of Ethics now is different in every profession but I am not unless specifically mentioned no job out there wants tloss of life or livelihood and/or push someone in danger willingly.


Aditya may have been given premeditated proofs about Arvind's wrongdoing but before he published the news it was his Moral and Professional obligation to ensure the authenticity of the news. Did he speak with actual employees of the company, take interview of a wide sample to see if the general population views versus views of a few were biased? Probably not.


And if people think there are no consequences of bad reporting and publishing let's remember the MMR vaccine controversy published by Andrew Wakefield in Lancet.

Because he made a comment that vaccines cause autism, diseases that were eradicated are coming back, the newspaper made a full retraction but the effects of such news is still ongoing.

Many researchers and pharma companies instead of spending money on developing new medications are still trying to disapprove the fact the Vaccine DO NOT cause Autism.

Of course ITV, Logic and Accountability rarely go hand in hand so our Serious Patrakaar will be now whitewashed with Nirma, Ujala and Surf..


What a Joke!

Oh my effing Gad, this. Retraction doesn't do much once misinformation is in public domain. That's why any sort of research is a discipline of verification. Here this idiot did not even introspect on his reporting after Arvind's death let alone publish a retraction.

Plagiarism is bad not only because it steals money from an indvidual but far more importantly, it breaks the chain of verification and accountability.

The audacity to put the responsibility of verification of sources of Aditya's report on Aryan is so deliberately unintelligent that i cannot even laugh.

Jourmalism shouldn't cause the loss of life. What even. It's not an outlier. It's a severe breach of conduct and sheer incompetence.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deltablues

Oh my effing Gad, this. Retraction doesn't do much once misinformation is in public domain. That's why any sort of research is a discipline of verification. Here this idiot did not even introspect on his reporting after Arvind's death let alone publish a retraction.

Plagiarism is bad not only because it steals money from an indvidual but far more importantly, it breaks the chain of verification and accountability.

The audacity to put the responsibility of verification of sources of Aditya's report on Aryan is so deliberately unintelligent that i cannot even laugh.

Jourmalism shouldn't cause the loss of life. What even. It's not an outlier. It's a severe breach of conduct and sheer incompetence.

@bold, that is what Aditya is - INCOMPETENT and I hope the story goes there..
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Work ethics!

When u call it your love ,a journalism is duty to bring out the truth. U are going to be the words people are going hear and remember.u dog in deeper just don't settle with the superficiality .but kya hi kahe professional hobta personal life this guy stick to the superficial things. He needs every thing served on the platter so we gloat about being serious journalist.

We seriously want an award.

We seriously want label.

We seriously want to be celebrated.

We seriously like being the star .

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SundariP


Me thinking when the makers decided to make it a conspiracy rather than a mob lynching due to incendiary article, where was Aryan? Taking a ride in Mrs lambigadi?


The conspiracy was actually an opening they had kept in the flashback as an option to fall back on, in case Aryan was not well received and if the AKT at fault narrative created a ruckus. But neither happened so they are now scripting the narrative as best suits their track by combining both plot points. If you see that Arvind's death flashback, they've actually shown this shady looking guy who walks in with the molotov specifically targeting Arvind. It wasn't just the mob attacking Arvind but this very specific targetted attack with the molotov as well.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deltablues

Yeh serious post nahi nahi hai.



Sorry not sorry for making you read something something serious for this stupid show. But bad journalism has serious consequences.

What Aditya did wrong was he wrote reports based on the evidences provided by four workers out of all the striking factory workers. Did he reach out to the organisers or even the managerial staff of Rathore Pharma? No. It was his sole responsibility to verify his sources, to read against the grain. It was neither the job of the editor — the editor edits, oversees; they don't babysit journalists on most basic journalistic tasks. Journalists don't share no pulitzer with their editors. Nor is it the job of the reader (i.e. Aryan and/or the workers) to know the sources of a news report a priori. Aryan isn't a journalist, it is not his responsibility. The primary responsibility of the piece lies with the author and secondarily with the editor.

Being a "serious journalist" has been Aditya's biggest hubris. And in his hubris he thinks himself infallible. Wrote incendiary pieces that led to mob incitement. He's responsible by accessory. It not only led to a perfect cover for Arvind's death and traumatised an entire family, but dislocated hundreds of workers as well.

Imlie's professional idolisation of this idiot has been breaking gradually; it needs to crash and be dazed.






you definitely did your research before making this post I have no doubts , but pardon me for coming to part that interests me the most. 😆

I’ve always loved the quote ‘Pen is mightier than sword ‘ but this can go both ways , you can make or break things with words .

AKT is shown as award winning and passionate journalist who not only lead interesting stories but was admired by juniors . So it’s safe to assume he knows his job inside out . But he always talks about Aam Admi issues or is biased to certain extent that only ordinary people face troubles and meaningful social issues are only worthy of his attention.

So in Arvind’s case - a rich successful businessman is being unfair poor factory workers, I see him already leaning towards a opinion. Now it seems like he was fed false information which probably cemented his opinion further.

Any profession has its own code of honor & ethical rules to follow. You are to remain as unbiased as possible but err is human.

Although AKT may not be legally responsible and also they seem to be showing that the same workers purposely lit the car on fire and made it look like mob mentality, the slander on Arvind’s name and heart break it caused the family is immeasurable. There seem to be still repercussions as a result of it .

Apology and acceptance of making a mistake does not belittle a person . It’s takes a strong man/women to a knowledge mistakes made and take action . That’s what a person with true principles would do .

If all of it swept under the rug with him being hoodwinked what happens to personal accountability?

Someone else made me do it , tricked me into it - haven’t we heard that before? Has anyone been okay with that explanation especially when the person was on the receiving end ?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: ampm06

you definitely did your research before making this post I have no doubts , but pardon me for coming to part that interests me the most. 😆

I’ve always loved the quote ‘Pen is mightier than sword ‘ but this can go both ways , you can make or break things with words .

AKT is shown as award winning and passionate journalist who not only lead interesting stories but was admired by juniors . So it’s safe to assume he knows his job inside out . But he always talks about Aam Admi issues or is biased to certain extent that only ordinary people face troubles and meaningful social issues are only worthy of his attention.

So in Arvind’s case - a rich successful businessman is being unfair poor factory workers, I see him already leaning towards a opinion. Now it seems like he was fed false information which probably cemented his opinion further.

Any profession has its own code of honor & ethical rules to follow. You are to remain as unbiased as possible but err is human.

Although AKT may not be legally responsible and also they seem to be showing that the same workers purposely lit the car on fire and made it look like mob mentality, the slander on Arvind’s name and heart break it caused the family is immeasurable. There seem to be still repercussions as a result of it .

Apology and acceptance of making a mistake does not belittle a person . It’s takes a strong man/women to a knowledge mistakes made and take action . That’s what a person with true principles would do .

If all of it swept under the rug with him being hoodwinked what happens to personal accountability?

Someone else made me do it , tricked me into it - haven’t we heard that before? Has anyone been okay with that explanation especially when the person was on the receiving end ?

Dinraat! He would be legally liable to at least a libel case if nothing else. The thing is, everyone writes from a certain viewpoint.


Sun is a star


Earth is a planet


Tomato is a fruit


Frog is an amphibian


These are facts. These are not a report. They have to be interpretated within some mental framework. Every source is essentially trying to 'trick' you into buying their own narrative whether deliberately or subconsciously. The modus operandi of a journalist is to a) juxtapose, interrogate, cross-check every source so as to obtain verifiable facts b) to base their report on these verifiable facts snd to keep theor own biases to the minimal so that audience can make up their own minds.

Everything else is based on these two commandments..

To say thst Oops! Sorry, I got tricked into publishing false information is not a good enough excuse for a journalist. Collateral damage is not a thing journalism. It is literally your job to segregate false information from facts.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thank you for this post, my friend❤️

I am borderline mad 😡that they are concluding this investigation so fast. I mean what are the odds of finding exactly the 4 people she remembers to be the exact 4 culprits, all of them found in the same place? And then, these people who seem to be enamored by the high flying life style to buy Imlie's sob story of becoming poor etc. and try to give her tips on how to become rich by unethical means? Who would tell your inside dirt to a stranger just like that? What was she trying to record anyway with that recorder? Listening in is not enough? And in front of the AC mechanics, the supposedly big cheese blurts out everything?😡 BOOM ! Imlie cracked the case🤬

I was hoping for a Law and Order type of cerebral investigation and in the process both Aryan and Imlie's interactions. I feel cheated. Sorry, totally off topic😳

As far as the serious patrakaar, for each profession we have our own truth finding missions we have to embark on in our daily lives. Most of us, whether you are a data scientist, a writer or a teacher or a researcher or a physician, we all have a lot of back ground noise through which we have to sort through to get to the heart of the matter.. When you are in certain professions where your conclusions hold a lot of weight, and lives are at stake, you have to be all the more careful before making sweeping remarks . This guy has a very inflated sense of self about his infallibility. He is reckless.

Moreover, he uses the issues of the poor/have nots as his objective for easy fame. He sees himself as a champion of these causes, without actually digging deeper. As we talked about earlier, it is very easy to pick a bone against the rich and powerful to become quickly noticed. For whatever reason, there are a lot of people who feel borderline cheated justly or unjustly by the rich, successful and influential people. May be human tendency, but it is common and natural to harbor feelings of envy if I may😲 So, igniting this basic human feeling by writing incendiary articles was his quick ticket to fame🤬

When he is called out, it is always somebody else's fault. If you reported weather inaccurately, it is your fault, not somebody who handed you the file with inaccurate weather report. What if they have honestly made a mistake of handing out UK's weather report when you are reporting Delhi weather? He did the same in his personal life as well. He didn't tell Malini about his forced marriage, it is Malini's fault . He delayed truth telling, it is the 18yr old's fault. Imlie not accepted by family, it is his family's fault, while he is the torch bearer of social justice🤬 He misused his position as a patrakaar who had access to print media to defame a innocent man and lead to his death and his family's anguish😡I am disgusted with this guy.

I hope they don't let him off the hook so soon. I don't know why Imlie keeps harping that if this guy gets exonerated, Aryan will find peace and move on😒

Again, going off topic, is it only me who gets irritated when Rupi calls ASR jeeju?🤔

Edited by mili9 - 3 years ago

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