Sushpective: Making sense of the story......

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Hi guys...
Parts of this story are so much like Rebecca...see the following dialogues

Mrs. Danvers: You tried to take her place. You let him marry you. I've seen his face, his eyes. They're the same as those first weeks after she died. I used to listen to him, walking up and down, up and down, all night long, night after night, thinking of her. Suffering torture because he lost her.
2nd Mrs. de Winter: I don't want to know. I don't want to know.
Mrs. Danvers: You thought you could be Mrs. de Winter, live in her house, walk in her steps, take the things that were hers. But she's too strong for you. You can't fight her. No one ever got the better of her. Never. Never. She was beaten in the end, but it wasn't a man. It wasn't a woman. It was the sea.


Sound familiar?
KA is obsessed with Zeenat...the love story of Saahir and Zeenat...no one can take Zeenat's place...she is trying to make Arzoo believe that Arzoo is trying to fight someone who can never be matched...she will never be good enough...Saahir will never love her...

How does Maxim feel (lets pretend...in desi version...comatose wife is the same as the dead wife in the original version...for the sake of simplicity)


The reader doesn't really know...what he and Rebecca shared...they hear only Mrs Danvers version...in the beginning of the book at least...and pretty far down...

But Maxim...is attracted to the young wife...this is how he feels about her...


[to the 2nd Mrs. de Winter] Do you remember that cliff where you first saw me in Monte Carlo?... That was where I found out about her... She stood there laughing, her black hair blowing in the wind, and told me all about herself " everything. Things I'll never tell a living soul. I wanted to kill her. It would have been so easy. Remember the precipice? I frightened you, didn't I? You thought I was mad. Perhaps I was. Perhaps I am mad. It wouldn't make for sanity, would it, living with the devil. "I'll make a bargain with you," she said. "You'd look rather foolish trying to divorce me now after four days of marriage. So I'll play the part of a devoted wife, mistress of your precious Manderley. I'll make it the most famous showplace in England, if you like. Then people will visit us and envy us and say we're the luckiest, happiest, couple in the country. What a grand show it will be! What a triumph!" I should never have accepted her dirty bargain, but I did.
[to the 2nd Mrs. de Winter] But you. I can't forget what it has done to you. I was looking at you, thinking of nothing else all through lunch. It's gone forever, that funny, young, lost look that I loved...



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Posted: 10 years ago
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The irony of the situation is that Arzoo is a strong 22 year old...as brave as they come...
But the constant brainwash from KA is doing a number on her...
She has started to doubt herself...
She has started to doubt if...she is indeed unlucky for Saahir...
Cause of all the mishap happening to Saahir...
She feels miserable...
She wants to see him safe...
She doesn't want to be causing him harm...
She is frantic...


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So when Saahir asks her out...
She feels extremely happy...






Tries really hard to live up to being his companion...
To look her best...
KA playing on her insecurities...



Arzoo knows that Saahir married her only under pressure
She doesn't have much confidence in their relationship to begin with
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Alvira is up to something


This is a trick...not sure what it is...yet...


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Hi Sush ,

Thanks for opening a post . Loved the title ...








Why don't you go? We none of us want you. He doesn't want you, he never did. He can't forget her. He wants to be alone in the house again, with her. It's you that ought to be lying there in the church crypt, not her. It's you who ought to be dead, not Mrs. de Winter.




Mrs. Danvers says this excerpt during a confrontation with the narrator after the costume ball. For the first time in the novel, all of the narrator's( Arzoo) fears about Rebecca and Maxim are articulated aloud. Mrs. Danvers manipulates the narrator's ( Arzoo) insecurities and preoccupation with Rebecca to persuade her that Maxim is still in love with his first wife and the narrator( Arzoo) has no place at Manderley. In fact, Mrs. Danvers' manipulation works so well that the narrator seems close to killing herself before the trance is broken by the ship's rockets...well hope we don't see this happening ...





Franz Waxman-----Theme from Rebecca

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QangvYJNc3U[/YOUTUBE]



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Sajana hai mujhe sajana ke liye...
Fabulous collage Shweta. Thank you...
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Will say only few words,
If there was any doubt about Humsafars being based on Rebecca, well now no one should have doubt ! Arzoo getting insecure to extent she has started listening to KA 😲
Now whole dress scenario, I mean that is just copy at its best !

Alvira has been upto something from very beginning and we have never known what she's cooking 😕
KA and Anam - yes they are there for OTT nonsense but now a days just not in mood 🤢

As for man and his biwi, trouble has only started ! He can get some stress relive may be by getting a haircut and head message !
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Originally posted by: jay_bpm

Will say only few words,

If there was any doubt about Humsafars being based on Rebecca, well now no one should have doubt ! Arzoo getting insecure to extent she has started listening to KA 😲
Now whole dress scenario, I mean that is just copy at its best !

Alvira has been upto something from very beginning and we have never known what she's cooking 😕
KA and Anam - yes they are there for OTT nonsense but now a days just not in mood 🤢

As for man and his biwi, trouble has only started ! He can get some stress relive may be by getting a haircut and head message !


Jay ,

Tu toh haath doh ke pada hai ...hair cut ke liye 😆 Maybe coming from you he may get one after all ...hamari toh nahi suni
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Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


Jay ,

Tu toh haath doh ke pada hai ...hair cut ke liye 😆 Maybe coming from you he may get one after all ...hamari toh nahi suni

Yes when my mood is not good I get overly critical and very much focused on what's wrong !
Mere bolne se haircut ho gaya to miracle ho jayega 😆

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