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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: aidan34

Hi sush,

kya baat hai,why are you not in good spirits today.hope all well.
yes u r right IPK did had a huge fan following.woh bhi kya din thay.brought some good memories back.


Hi Aidan...yes...IPK days were fun...actually we have been having fun here too...so can't complain...well I guess I could about a few things...but choose not to...

Not in good spirits ...because something I had worked on got the axe...straight from the executive team...well they are telling me...nothing against me...which is all fine...but it is a downer...something you have worked on...going down ...also concerned not for myself...but some people who worked with me on this...may be impacted...😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


Hi Aidan...yes...IPK days were fun...actually we have been having fun here too...so can't complain...well I guess I could about a few things...but choose not to...

Not in good spirits ...because something I had worked on got the axe...straight from the executive team...well they are telling me...nothing against me...which is all fine...but it is a downer...something you have worked on...going down ...also concerned not for myself...but some people who worked with me on this...may be impacted...😕

Don't worry much as watever happens,happens for good. Me too working on a proposal,have a deadline for nxt sat.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: basicquestion1

Thank u for making a nice post.
I luv how they aren't showing Sahir's character to be of a teenage luv sick puppy. He is trying to cruise with Arzoo but u can c the "trying" part. The effort is there but it's a long course.
Thanx for putting the sweet song up It put on a smile on my gloomy face.
I can't fathom that the show is really ending
I posted this on ur last thread 🤪 didn't realize my mistake.
I luvvvd how Arzoo said that she can skip a meal for him without thinking once about herself. True luv does make u do all the nonsensical things in the world. I always found Arzoo's luv to be very shallow. One day Sahir and nxt day Zaki. Yuck :( not even a day's break between the two brothers. I don't care about the reasonings but even the lowest kind of one sided luv would need time to heal. So I like how Arzoo is after her marriage actually falling in luv. Her insecurities about their relation also r the net result of falling for the man of her life. It's only human to feel jealous, get insecure and to crave for being Luvd. The story is getting interesting day by day and now they talk about taking the show off air
Abhi abhi to mile ho
Abhi na karo chhootne ki baat
Abhi abhi toh pasand aaye ho
Abhi abhi roothne ki baat
Abhi abhi toh roshni aayi
Abhi naa karo munh chhupane ki baat :(


Hi BC...thank you for your post...yes...the story is interesting right now...and they are talking about the end nearing...every day there is some rumor...but you know you have to enjoy today...and not worry too much about tomorrow...

In bold...the entire marriage track was badly written and badly directed...but I for one never felt Arzoo loved Zaki romantically...she was saying yes to a marriage of compromise...to him...although the direction and pace could have been managed better...but romantically it has always been Saahir...she cares for Zaki as a friend...that's all there is to it...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Many thanks for the thread Sush, and exquisite collages and quotes Shweta.
Words cannot begin to express my appreciation to you both, don't mean to sound overly dramatic but if not for this thread I would have given up on this show long ago.

And the discourse as usual, is the one thing I really look forward to on this thread. So thought provoking, eloquent,insightful ...have to admit that many times I'm convinced more of a thought process and intelligence quotient goes into these posts than the script!!!

Which leads me to the script itself. I'm not about to delve into all the external factors at play here, there are many issues ... I can only guess. Perhaps the story may have turned out differently under better circumstances, who knows? Like others, I would have preferred if Zeenat was the late wife rather than the first (and other) wife, but that was always the premise of the show from day one. I watched it anyway...mea culpa!

The thing is that sometimes I have to recognize that for the drama quotient to be heightened ,unpleasant ,unrealistic and undesirable elements have to be introduced . And it doesn't have to make sense, or be logical either...it just has to create drama and/or suspense. So as much as I'm peeved by Sahir's reluctance to come clean with Arzoo ,especially after everything she's endured at the hands of him and his family, I accept that this is a (clumsy ?) attempt to recreate the Rebecca scenario . His apparent thoughtlessness , his reluctance to reassure Arzoo ,is supposedly to protect and spare her the distress and trauma of his past life. These only provide the fertile conditions to instill serious doubts and insecurities in the mind of Arzoo,leading her to perhaps do something drastic soon...perhaps run back to Lucknow? Eventually to be rescued by her knight in tarnished armor? Of course lots more sinister stuff and near death experiences to occur before then. Sigh!

When all is said and done, this is supposed to be a love story: between one man and one woman. That's why we're all still here I think. Let's hope the powers that be keep that in focus, and not all the hocus pocus that we're subjected to ad nauseum. Even if Sahir refuses to allay Arzoo's doubts and fears, the writers should give the viewers some little insight as to his thought process, please CVs throw us some crumbs !



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-



<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hi BC...thank you for your post...yes...the story is interesting right now...and they are talking about the end nearing...every day there is some rumor...but you know you have to enjoy today...and not worry too much about tomorrow...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">In bold...the entire marriage track was badly written and badly directed...but I for one never felt Arzoo loved Zaki romantically...she was saying yes to a marriage of compromise...to him...although the direction and pace could have been managed better...but romantically it has always been Saahir...she cares for Zaki as a friend...that's all there is to it...</font>


True that it was not a romantic relation but one man after the other as a back to back episode isn't my cup of tea. Sahir took 7 years and yet half the forum will talk about how he should do this and that for Arzoo's sake. Like Sahir Arzoo too had an advantageous marriage but I guess that's beside the point. As the script is getting better , I really don't want to cry over spilled milk.
Btw did I mention that u write very well :) wish one day u write an ff. ur work reminds me of a girl named "Lana". If u ever get free time then read her work. Just don't read something that she left in the middle:(
Ok good night sweet writer. Sorry I read ur other post and I can make out that u aren't in a good mood. I hope u get plenty of reasons to get out of ur glum state.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@leesan
Agreed Maxim's reluctance to open up to his younger wife can once again be excused because A. The young wife wasn't forced to be living under the same roof of his ex due to him. B. She hadnt already endured more than enough abuse from his hands. Again the fact that show was so poorly handled before makes it hard for the Rebecca story to fit in.

The precap: If he throws a tantrum I hope he can show the decency to apologize and show some sensitivity to the fact that Arzoo his being forced to live under the same roof as his ex.
Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">S,</font>

<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">This is for you ...This is what Sahir is afraid of...</font>


<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#993300">I can't forget what it has done to you. I was looking at you, thinking of nothing else all through lunch. It's gone forever, that funny, young, lost look that I loved. It won't come back again. I killed that too, when I told you about Rebecca. It's gone, in twenty-four hours. You are so much older...</font>



<font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">This quotation is spoken by Maxim after he has revealed the truth about Rebecca's death to the narrator. Although the revelation about Rebecca allows the narrator to overcome her insecurities and achieve equal footing with Maxim, it also means the loss of her innocence. In Monte Carlo, Maxim was entranced by the narrator's innocence and purity specifically because it was so different from Rebecca's crass immodesty and sexual familiarity. Now, because of his actions, he has destroyed the narrator's most precious quality, and he has no one to blame but himself.</font>



Thnx Di, this did help!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Leesan

Many thanks for the thread Sush, and exquisite collages and quotes Shweta.

Words cannot begin to express my appreciation to you both, don't mean to sound overly dramatic but if not for this thread I would have given up on this show long ago.

And the discourse as usual, is the one thing I really look forward to on this thread. So thought provoking, eloquent,insightful ...have to admit that many times I'm convinced more of a thought process and intelligence quotient goes into these posts than the script!!!

Which leads me to the script itself. I'm not about to delve into all the external factors at play here, there are many issues ... I can only guess. Perhaps the story may have turned out differently under better circumstances, who knows? Like others, I would have preferred if Zeenat was the late wife rather than the first (and other) wife, but that was always the premise of the show from day one. I watched it anyway...mea culpa!

The thing is that sometimes I have to recognize that for the drama quotient to be heightened ,unpleasant ,unrealistic and undesirable elements have to be introduced . And it doesn't have to make sense, or be logical either...it just has to create drama and/or suspense. So as much as I'm peeved by Sahir's reluctance to come clean with Arzoo ,especially after everything she's endured at the hands of him and his family, I accept that this is a (clumsy ?) attempt to recreate the Rebecca scenario . His apparent thoughtlessness , his reluctance to reassure Arzoo ,is supposedly to protect and spare her the distress and trauma of his past life. These only provide the fertile conditions to instill serious doubts and insecurities in the mind of Arzoo,leading her to perhaps do something drastic soon...perhaps run back to Lucknow? Eventually to be rescued by her knight in tarnished armor? Of course lots more sinister stuff and near death experiences to occur before then. Sigh!

When all is said and done, this is supposed to be a love story: between one man and one woman. That's why we're all still here I think. Let's hope the powers that be keep that in focus, and not all the hocus pocus that we're subjected to ad nauseum. Even if Sahir refuses to allay Arzoo's doubts and fears, the writers should give the viewers some little insight as to his thought process, please CVs throw us some crumbs !




Hi Lessie...BIG HUG to you for your kind words🤗

In bold...that's the key point...I think so too...
Difficult to portray a Rebecca in a daily soap...but yes...the writing and direction could have been better...

Can you imagine an average viewer in India ...who has probably never read Rebecca (although I had read it when I was in India ...so I shouldn't generalize) ...but you know what I mean...an average TRP viewer is not watching it for literally connections...it is incumbent upon the show writers and director to convey the story and the characters thought process to the viewer through their craft...

Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great post Sush and beautiful collages swetha .
Swetha special mention to that Arzoo's collage she looks different .

KA is trying to give an impression to Arzoo that she is not the one ...she is not the one Sahir love or will ever love in his life time ...
I pity arzoo it's time SAHIR opens his past to arzoo.

Alvira is up to some thing ...may be frame Anam as culprit for her next plan...so the video recording ..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post Sush n lovely collages Shweta. :)
I have been enjoying the epis over the last few days. And yes the shadow of Rebecca on Humsafars was really clear yesterday.
one's heart goes out to Arzoo.
One can kind of see where this is going but i am rather wary of predicting anything lol.

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