Arzoo is not so wrong, we just are more used to Sahir's arrogance - Page 2

Originally posted by: sho-shweet

Fabulous post.You're right that we always talk about Sahir's bitter past and forgive whatever he does but now when Aarzoo is giving her the taste of his own medicine we don't like it.I guess it's believed that a girl has to be a healer and a more considerate person and let the man decide.But this is Aarzoo,not some ordinary girl and I'm loving it.

Sho Shweet , Sho shweet:)
thanks.😊

Back of the mind, we all feel that Arzoo has been given huge opportunity with Saiyarra and the family and Sahir have been considerate to let her stay in Niyamat house. So , we feel she needs to bend in front of them and answer.
But the above is the reason she is doing all this..she is doing this for the family.

Originally posted by: bluejalpari

True Jyoti, you make a valid point. 😊
Absolutely true about the male dominated society. Kurti apa never questions Zaki or Sahir about why he wants Arzoo around him all the time. But..question Arzoo is what they all do.


You are right about Arzoo contradicting herself.. here is how I understand it ...see , she never said that he doesnt mean anything to her. She infact had been thinking he was going to say the three golden words.. when he came to say sorry..she was there mentally. And she asked Sahir very nicely about his dard. He closed up, told her to stay in her place. That hurt her..a lot. I mean Sahir takes the liberty to call her father and ask him to stay away from her...who is he ? her guardian angel? and if he is guardian angel then why should he question her?
Somewhere , the angle of rich and poor, who is staying in whose house and who is doing ehsaan on whom is playing here.
Arzoo in fact is giving it away..she is telling she cares about him and his dard which is why she asked him about it...then even after they fight and declare they don't mean anything to each other, she goes and asks Alvira about Sahir's past...I mean that is serious stuff. A girl goes to a guy's mom and asks about his problems, to me that tells both the viewer and Alvira that she is serious about Sahir.
She wanted him to understand the truth and innocence of her eyes and not need a verbal justification because she loves the man. Simple.
But yes she did question him about his rights because he behaves like her husband without admitting any feelings.
Lets say Arzoo explains her innocence and Sahir passes his " judgement" on her character that she is pure. Then what? Thats the thing that bothering her...he comes and goes out of her personal life at HIS WILL. And she is fighting against that.

u do hv a point .. she is not sure what she means to him in his life ..so on what grounds she will give him the right to pass a judgement on her character ... she is like if u want to believe me then believe otherwise your wish but dont expect any explainations from me ...

Also another point is we as viewers know what Sahir saw but Aarzoo has no idea what all he saw in hospital and at home ..so no wonder she feels she does not owe any explanation to him as long as he dont feel the need to share his emotions with me ...


but somewhere I think Sahir these days is openly showing his concern for Aarzoo even today he was like where has that old Aarzoo gone who used to fight for herself ... he was annoyed that he dint see that fighting spirit in her ... more than her giving him any explanation , all he wanted her was to fight for herself like she always does ... so when she dint do that this time , he was confused and so ended up asking her which is the real Aarzoo ...

somewhere they both had valid points today ..

Originally posted by: jyoti06

u do hv a point .. she is not sure what she means to him in his life ..so on what grounds she will give him the right to pass a judgement on her character ... she is like if u want to believe me then believe otherwise your wish but dont expect any explainations from me ...

Also another point is we as viewers know what Sahir saw but Aarzoo has no idea what all he saw in hospital and at home ..so no wonder she feels she does not owe any explanation to him as long as he dont feel the need to share his emotions with me ...


but somewhere I think Sahir these days is openly showing his concern for Aarzoo even today he was like where has that old Aarzoo gone who used to fight for herself ... he was annoyed that he dint see that fighting spirit in her ... more than her giving him any explanation , all he wanted her was to fight for herself like she always does ... so when she dint do that this time , he was confused and so ended up asking her which is the real Aarzoo ...

somewhere they both had valid points today ..

True Jyoti, I agree that Sahir is showing concern for her openly, even in office he kept asking her inspite of the fact that she said it was personal. So he is there in action, not in admitting and in words. Thats always a man's way..isn't it?
You are right in that both have valid points...Arzoo 's batti is not lit as yet that he thinks Zaki and Arzoo are together..even before this pregnancy thing. I think once she realizes that, she will understand his jealousy..and the reason for it...that is his love for her.
She also wants to hear his care for her in words...and he also wants to hear her innocence in words..dono pagal hain.
Couples don't get this straight even after 10-15 years of marriage...both man and woman need and communicate differently. Phir these are just new in the relationship.

Bang on jyoti i fully agree with u today arzoo gained more respect from me from being as she was with sahir... U have just written it so well...kudos

@ bluejalpari. "Couples don't get it right even after 10-15yrs of marriage"
Ha ha ha..you said it right dear...I know what you mean..sometimes we just assume or at least like to think that he gets it even without talking and get angry when he doesn't 😆

You may like to judge everyone who has a problem by saying people are more used to his arrogance and they dont want to see the same in a girl but thats really not how it is!

What bothers me is not her arrogance but her double standards ... She was right in being arrogant and telling sahir that he has no right to ask her, no haq yesterday, absolutely right in being angry there but whatever she said after that was misplaced arrogance and double standards! When he has no right over her what right she has to expect him to read his eyes? Why she expects him to trust her without her saying a word when she herself made it clear that there is nothing between them?

My problem is neither with her anger nor her showing it ...my problem is she is a flawed character just like sahir is, she has anger issues, she is full of herself viz a viz never trying to see others pov, she always understands from a conversation what she wants to ... These are all flaws but they are shown as great traits and strengths. When arzoo makes a mistake even that is shown as the right thing!

Sahir on the other hand is a flawed character from day one, his flaws are shown as flaws but what makes him more interesting is he is always self analyzing ... Despite his past dhoka he takes utmost care in judging her, he self examines and when he is wrong apologizes too ... Arzoo on the other hand never thinks beyond her own POV! That is where my problem with her starts ... Its not about her getting angry but the fact she never understands the other!

She wanted to know sahir's pain ... If it was so easy for him to share his pain would he be living in a shell for this long? She is angry because he is not telling her ... She expects him to read her eyes but has she bothered looking at the hurt in his eyes? Read them? She always wants her way and in that ignores other person's feelings and emotions! Sahir saw them at the hospital too yet when he asked her that sach kia hai, it showed he didnt believe any of that, that is his trust in her! Him asking her was his frustration ... But she was so engrossed in her own anger that she didnt once bother thinking about that ... Or understanding him! Sahir didnt ask her to lie did he?

i will not have any issues with arzoo's char the way it is if and only if her flaws and mistakes were shown as flaws and mistakes, like sahir's are ... But her flaws and mistakes are shown as strength and some sort of powerful woman traits ... I have a problem with that and always will ... And if that makes anyone judge me so be it!

Let me write here few examples on how her wrongs are shown as right and justified:

She trowd a phone at sahir, she was the first one to get physical eveyone goes oh wow this woman has spunk! Throwing things or physically hitting someone in a fit of anger is a weakness not strength!

If she pushes sahir away with full force to help zaki oh she wanted to help a friend, if he pushes her to save her mother's life oh manhandling!

If she goes into her rooms with out knocking she goes with haq sey if he tells her not to again and again she doesnt listen and then when he is angry oh he is so batameez and even arzoo calls him with all these names!

She is working in a professional enciornment, never comes on time, one day doesnt come at all and when asked for a reason she doesnt bother even saying as much as my mother was sick and everyone says oh she didnt have to tell anything ... Please tell me which offices dont ask for a reason of your absence? Atleast i dont know any where you dont have to explain why you were missing!

She writes a disgustig resignation letter which would mean she would not get a job any where after that she is not only shown to get a promotion but whole forum goes oh wow well done arzoo! I mean seriously?

If she is angry or rude to sahir that is woman power if he is angry because she is all the time getting on his nerves despite him telling her to stay away, he is the one whi should be understanding!

These are just a few there r more too but point here is why sahir is easy to like as a character is because his flaws r taken as flaws ... Arzoo's flaws are all shown as strengths and some sort of woman power atleast i can not relate to that! Specially being a career woman myself, who had a similar start like that of arzoo and did it all on my own! No woman with attitude like her would survive more than a week at a work place and that is a fact yet we see her as woman of power and strength?



In short arzoo is flawed too just like sahir is but when she is presented as epitome of perfection and strength i loose the chaeacter some where!

awesum post dear 👏 these two r madly in love with each other !! bt the difference is sahir doesn't want 2 accept it n aarzoo wants sahir 2 realise that she loves him 😆 😆

Wonderful bang on post 👏
No matter how rude they show Sahir, he becomes lovably hot coz its played by Harshad 😆
But if Arzoo is shown behaving the same way, she is considered rude and wrong. Yes she behaved arrogant with Sahir, but all her frustratins came out because she was with him, her true love. If Sahir can push, scream at her but at the same time can't be peaceful without her presence around him, in a similar way Arzoo can also take Sahir for granted. Call me a feminist, but I don't mind 😉 cos that's what i am!!! 😃