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Posted: 10 years ago
#51
Ok my small take on thus MU...i think somehow Zaki will refuse to marry Saimara and tell her he loves Arzoo. Sahir ki deal khatre mein...and sahir slso thinking arzoo preggers would want that but rehman will blackmail sahir ki kaise bhi kare ke saimara and Zaki should marry otherwise deal off sahir and co on roads... sahir to sa e his dral and arzoo from being humiliated in society will marry her in a real quick manner befoee zaki even knowing and then zaki will marry saimara...and then we have marriage of Saaz based on hate but love like all 4Lion shows
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: -Sush-


She hasn't said anything about Samaira...so, not sure how that shows she is being judgmental...Besides, if Samaira wants to tell her truth to the world...she has all the means to do it...she is a family friend...and has a prominent dad...doesn't need Arzoo to say one way or the other...Arzoo has done nothing to discredit her...not sure...how this is an issue with Arzoo's characterization...



Sush... If I may add something here...
Arzoo knows zaki... She knows he fools girls.. Now this girl is pregnant and he is actually saying she is of questionable character and he didn't do anything.. And arzoo accepts his word for it and agrees to keep such a big secret only on zakis word!
How does she or indeed how do we know if zaki is right?
The basis for the argument that arzoo didn't even say No.. Is that the deal would be in trouble if anyone came to know...
So the point here is.. Samaira has no reason to keep quiet does she?
So what is the point in arzoo taking this on her? It could be revealed anytime because the girl in question is not on the same page ad them.
And arzoo...I expected that she would think from the girls POV knowing zaki.. And from that past incident.. But she is choosing to ignore that and just help her friend!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: -vandy-

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aarzoo risking her reputation is not fine in any circumstances...be it for sahir or zaki...period! she has been acting dumb...first if she risked it for zaki...she should know zaki is a casanova...he'll never own up the child's responsibility... second ifatall she did for sahir...sahir should be the first person to know abt this fiasco coz its his deal which falls in danger...

coming to the epis and the huge discussions abt morals n principles...

i clearly said earlier that aarzoo walking in and out of a guy's bedroom is not wrong...esp if u tend to stay in the same house...whats wrong is the fact that u chose to walk in the bedroom of a person with whom ur character has been already questioned once...

alvira had given sahir's responsibilty to aarzoo...so the question of morality or boundaries does not arise here...

the question arises when aarzoo kind of eggs on the flirting nature of zaki...i might sound harsh...but that kind of language...that kind of PDA which zaki has been shhowering on aarzoo...it clearly is coz aarzoo has given him that liberty...knowing fully well that he has a bad reputation of a casanova...and a flirt...aarzoo has never maintained a distance from him...which she should have...not coz she was supposed of a conservative nature...but coz thats what normally girls do...

now coming to the morality issue...wen aarzoo applied that balm on sahir's back...sahir had not invited her in...or held her hand and put it on his back... it was a chance thing that happened...

here zaki keeps calling her in her room..some pretext or the other...and aarzoo too does not think twice before following suit...


neways y am i even discussing this? coz i'm sure whatever i write will be considered the POV of a rose coloured fan🤣


see the bottomline is...

aarzoo was wrong in keeping mum yesterday...she should've gone and confided into sahir...esp after she kind of guessed that sahir must've heard something...

no girl...no matter how great her frendship is will ever take such a blame on herself...it was plain simple dumb of her to do so!


and abt the legal clauses of proved guilty thing...aarzoo's silence has proved her guilty...


Hi Vandy...sorry if I offended you with my comment on fandom with rose colored glasses...As Red said...we ALL have our biases...shaped by our perspectives, our experiences and our way of looking at the world...it is not necessary to agree...I do appreciate hearing all points of views...agreement or not...

Lets just enjoy the show from our own perspectives and not let this debate spoil the fun...shall we?
Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: prettypri


Sush... If I may add something here...
Arzoo knows zaki... She knows he fools girls.. Now this girl is pregnant and he is actually saying she is of questionable character and he didn't do anything.. And arzoo accepts his word for it and agrees to keep such a big secret only on zakis word!
How does she or indeed how do we know if zaki is right?
The basis for the argument that arzoo didn't even say No.. Is that the deal would be in trouble if anyone came to know...
So the point here is.. Samaira has no reason to keep quiet does she?
So what is the point in arzoo taking this on her? It could be revealed anytime because the girl in question is not on the same page ad them.
And arzoo...I expected that she would think from the girls POV knowing zaki.. And from that past incident.. But she is choosing to ignore that and just help her friend!


Hi Pri,
I think she did this to buy time...not to hide the truth...

Yes, she trusts Zaki's words more now than she did at that first incident with another girl...


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Sush...I don't see any reason that Zaki has given for him to appear changed now. We as an audience know that he fancies himself in love with Arzoo...even after that he almost slept with another girl the other day! But Arzoo has no idea...that he loves her...her thinking should be based on what she knows about him isn't it?
My point is that Samairas thoughts on the matter were not considered at all...when Arzoo is buying time...helping Zaki solely on his questioning of the other girls character...which by the way she didn't cringe at..but ok...maybe she thinks Zaki knows the girl better and she need not worry...he is her friend..her wondering at or in fact asking Zaki how he is so sure before taking on such a big secret and agreeing to help him...would have made sense...to me.

And she is temporarily hiding the truth anyway...which is against her own stated principles...by letting people assume that she is pregnant she is letting them believe a lie..and all of it would amount to nothing if Samaira actually speaks up..that is a very valid thing that wasn't thought of!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri

Sush...I don't see any reason that Zaki has given for him to appear changed now. We as an audience know that he fancies himself in love with Arzoo...even after that he almost slept with another girl the other day! But Arzoo has no idea...that he loves her...her thinking should be based on what she knows about him isn't it?

My point is that Samairas thoughts on the matter were not considered at all...when Arzoo is buying time...helping Zaki solely on his questioning of the other girls character...which by the way she didn't cringe at..but ok...maybe she thinks Zaki knows the girl better and she need not worry...he is her friend..her wondering at or in fact asking Zaki how he is so sure before taking on such a big secret and agreeing to help him...would have made sense...to me.

And she is temporarily hiding the truth anyway...which is against her own stated principles...by letting people assume that she is pregnant she is letting them believe a lie..and all of it would amount to nothing if Samaira actually speaks up..that is a very valid thing that wasn't thought of!


Hi P ,

I am jumping in here ...let the plot unfold ...we are all discussing based on one 22 min epi lets wait for tonight's epi to see Arzoo's response if there is one ...how Saahir, and Zaki react after Arzoo's and family's response .

Why should Arzoo worry about Samira right now she doesn't know her all she is thinking is how to help a family friend who has been at her side from the jail incident to helping her get Saahir back the contract ...
Edited by ultimaterudra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shweta there is a lot of speculation in discussions anyway.
What I said was actually based on what I saw yesterday... The zaki arzoo conversation is over... There is nothing left in that! That's what I am talking about.

Sahir was cast as immoral without the plot unfolding.. Despite indications that zeenat totally betrayed him.. Despite him not giving in to his feelings for arzoo in any way... Here I am only stating what had been clearly shown... Zaki is a philanderer... Golden heart or not... I don't believe in covering someones back just because they have been good to you.. No questions asked!

OK...zaki helping her out means she is OK with his loose morals... And a person like him talking about another girl in such a cringeworthy manner...I was expecting too much from her to consider anything else in that case..

If that's Arzoos definition of friendship there is nothing left to say!
Edited by prettypri - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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As Sush said in a way, Arzoo taking the blame upon herself she is letting time for the truth to come out. She is giving everyone time Samaira, Zaki and Saahir. If Samaira is innocent than Arzoo has not accused her of being guilty as of yet. In fact if she later happens to be telling the truth she might side with her later. She couldnt have yelled at Zaki for claiming Samaira might by lying. For all she knows he might be telling the truth as well. This way no one gets harmed until the truth comes out.

Zaki might have been a philanderer in past, (though we have never seen him commited to anyone especially married) even Monica seemed aware of the terms and conditions their relations where going to be in. Let me tell you something more about Mass and US law. Here prior bad acts are not relevant in court to help prove you guilty of the current case at hand. Just because he has been a philanderer in the past does not necessarily mean he is guilty in this case of being Samaira's baby's child.
Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I assume you are telling me so...
This show is set in India and so Indian laws would apply.

And zaki is not on trial in a court here.

And I don't get how arzoo has any jurisdiction to decide anything anyway.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri

I assume you are telling me so...

This show is set in India and so Indian laws would apply.

And zaki is not on trial in a court here.

And I don't get how arzoo has any jurisdiction to decide anything anyway.




She hasnt made a jurisdiction on anyone yet she has just given time for the truth to come out. She has give EVERYONE time by taking the blame on herself. Taking the blame on yourself is the furthest thing from jurisdiction

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