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Posted: 12 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: kaya123

Well the writers have never shown rishi get a paycheck, working or paying for the household bills...but they have shown indira or shweta or zara doing these things in certain scenes, so if they want to show that zara/meher was running the house since last 6 months and swetha was doing it for last 8 yrs before that, then its believable.
I dont think at point in time the writers ever made clear that rishi was supporting the family.

I think the writers never meant hd to be a love story, n rishi was meant to be a good hearted but irresponsible husband from start but audience really startes loving inshi n rishi so they wanted to see a love story. So writers tried to give them a love story but then all the other portions of the story went off track to accomodate the love story.
Now writers are trying to go back to the original theme but certain portion of audience wont accept such a portrayal of rishi anymore.


what original theme u r talking about..from starting to now HD is about only inshi & if u dont agree with it then no worries..nobody force u to agree for the fact..

@bold: not certain portion 99.9% of the audience wont & cant see rishi like this because he is the main male protagonist of the show
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Posted: 12 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: Surbhi123

munna is not reliable source.he took so many girls name along with zara on friday's episode .we have seen him ling and exaggerating
Yes shweta and zara has taken some burden but rishi also shown going to court. yes though he was busy with Indira he would have given attention to Indu . This pt is valid.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: AllThingsNice

I have to agree, Surbhi. There is no defense for Rishi for not looking out for his daughter's education. Its a huge, gaping lapse in this character and nothing can be said which will make it right. Its not as though I have never questioned Rishi's actions or motives. But now, I find it deeply frustrating. I'll tell you why.

See, this (as you rightly said) is a show. How a character shapes is in the hands of the writer. The character Rishi has a life of his own, but how flat or rounded he is as a character is in the writer's hands. Characters must grow as the incidents in the story play out. And my main complaint is that there is no growth! Nine years is a long time. Long enough to take a toll on people. Those nine years do not show in anyone. Munna was knitting today! Its frustrating!

You are seeing the show as a reflection of a society in which girls contribute much more than boys. While that is valid, if you look at it purely as a story, I would say that there is stagnation. I cannot relate to the passage of time with zero change. Can you? I find it a sort of burden that they cannot take the story beyond this point. Its like a broken record that refuses to complete the song.

Kanan what you say in last para is rt but no need to be frustrated . lot of force required to overcome the Inertia I have hopes this stagnation will be removed and story will move on. now illa has understood what her viewers want so she will show Hitlergi as the main part of story not on rishi but with rishi on somebody else spiced with love story. story has gone much away from the main theme so to bring it back she has taken the help of original personality of cast. let us wait and watch . something beautiful is stored for us.
i have read many of your analysis and found very correct, rational and practical considering real life . you r an Intelligent person. you use your brain too much.that is why this frustration is there HD is reel life look it from this pt of view then no frustration
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Posted: 12 years ago
#84

First of all, I'd like to say that who says there is only negativity in this show. Pehle Indira, phir Shweta, then Zara, phir Meher, and now Indira again...long line of tremendous women who keep on supporting all of SN and its nikammas. Duniya mein aise achhe log bhi hote hain. Dammit, mujhe kyon nahin milte aise log jo mera kharcha uthaye aur main ghar main baith kar mauj karu! If anyone knows where I can find people like these, please send me the contact info asap! 🤣

Getting back to the show, I had no problem with Rishi's character being shown somewhat irresponsible pre-leap. After all, that was the main difference between Rishi and Indira. I wouldn't say that Indira was more mature (just going to work and paying the bills does not make you mature), but she was definitely the more "responsible" one. And that was fine. Rishi's spontaneity and free-spirit were contrasted with Indira's more grounded and serious nature and this was quite realistic. They were different- one not better than the other- but just different- with each bringing some good and some bad to the table. While the characters were definitely exaggerated, there was truth and authenticity in both these characters. And maybe I misunderstood the concept of this show, but I thought the idea was to show how these contrasting characters come together and help each other grow and change for the better.


Post-leap Rishi's character is 10 years older and has a child and I have serious issues believing that he has remained the same thru these 10 years. Yes we have seen him being weary of keeping a job or earning money I suppose, but to not care about sending his own child to school! I'm sorry but this is wholly inconsistent with how his character has been portrayed for the last 18 months. But even if we assume that this is true and Rishi is as irresponsible as they make him out to be, then I have serious issues with Indira. If she is the mature and responsible one, why did she marry Rishi?? She made a choice to marry him when she did. Why the rush to marry? Furthermore, she made a choice to have a child with this man when she knew quite well that he was irresponsible. Why?? And then, while dying, she roped in another woman to "take care" of this man, and the rest of her nikamma family. Why?? And now that she's back, she continues to make a conscious choice to support all the nikammas in SN. And lets not mention Shweta, Zara, and now Meher- who continue to be part of the same stupidity. I'm sorry but this is not a realistic portrayal of the strong middle class Indian woman, because I refuse to believe that the middle class educated Indian woman is so lacking in brains that she will continue to be part of such a vicious and self-destructive cycle and make conscious choices that re-inforce this cycle- khud hi jung create karna aur khud hi uske bare mein continuously whine karna. This is not in the least bit inspiring. This is just sheer stupidity, nothing else. If this is the whole point of the show, then what is there to watch? The woman keeps working and cribbing about it? If Rishi and the rest of SN have not changed by now after all that has happened, they are unlikely to change now. So what's the point? Indira's life is miserable and so I should feel bad for her everyday? Is that the point? And I should applaud her for making a choice everyday to be part of this self-destructive cycle?
For people who say that HD was never supposed to be a "love story," I really don't understand what the show was supposed to be about then. I agree, maybe it was not meant to be a "traditional, tele, eyelocks, knight-in-shining armor" type lovestory but is that the only lovestory that Indian tele makers know? There is a reason the audience rejected Indira and her "jung" back in the day and the same will happen now.
Edited by Walden - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#85
Addendum to the previous comment:
Something that I find peculiar 😆 jab Inshi ki baat hoti hain and if people demand an inshi track, then everyone comes out to proclaim the oft repeated stance that HD is not a love story. Par jab Huseb ya Sara ya kisi aur "jodi" ki baat hoti hain, to everyone wants to watch the romantic love story and looks forward to the fresh track and pairing. Someone please explain this to me...mujhe samjah nahi aata ye flip flop 🤣🤣
Disclaimer: the views expressed above are solely mine and do not reflect the views of the TM 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#86
Aur tumhe samjh me bhi nahi ayega... Dil chahiye uske liye 🤣
Mujhe sam aur saheb jaise makkari log chahiye Indira k liye so that I can keep Rishi for myself. anyone who loves Rishi, wants Indira to find another suitor.

P.S.: I am TM's spokesperson. All these views are TM's and has nothing to do with me. Please consult the TM if you find anything inappropriate 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: _saumya_

Aur tumhe samjh me bhi nahi ayega... Dil chahiye uske liye 🤣
Mujhe sam aur saheb jaise makkari log chahiye Indira k liye so that I can keep Rishi for myself. anyone who loves Rishi, wants Indira to find another suitor.

P.S.: I am TM's spokesperson. All these views are TM's and has nothing to do with me. Please consult the TM if you find anything inappropriate 😆

Sahi baat ki hai boss...dil jo chahta hain wo chahta hain...ab wo chahe rapist sam ho ya kidnapper saheb, iss dil ka kya kare. Dil ko ya rapist aur kidnapper ke saath romantic love story chahiye aur agar ye nahin ho sakta to zindagi jung hai zindabaad 😆
Waise mujhe ek aur baat nahin samjah aati...since Indira is the responsible, mature, and just one, how come she doesen't get justice for Shweta and Zara? Uska husband aur beti to hain hi bure, but what about her? If she was really the "good" one, she should find Shweta and hand Indu over to her, then she should find Zara and hand Rishi over to her. Zimmerdari se bhi chutkara mil jayega aur justice bhi ho jayega 😆 Perfect solution to all of Indira's jung.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#88
Hume kya encyclopedia samjha hai 😆 sare questions puchh lo aj hi KD k ane se pehle 😆

Agar har nikamme ko life se aise hi chhu mantar kar diya toh zindagi jung nahi reh payegi... Indira ka paryayvachi hai jung... Jab wo Husna thi tab there wad no jung as soon as she got back her name, jung came alongside.


Waise who is the reason Rishi could never move on in life. Even if Rishi's laid back behaviour isn't justified who pushed him towards it?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: Walden

First of all, I'd like to say that who says there is only negativity in this show. Pehle Indira, phir Shweta, then Zara, phir Meher, and now Indira again...long line of tremendous women who keep on supporting all of SN and its nikammas. Duniya mein aise achhe log bhi hote hain. Dammit, mujhe kyon nahin milte aise log jo mera kharcha uthaye aur main ghar main baith kar mauj karu! If anyone knows where I can find people like these, please send me the contact info asap! 🤣

😃nice sense of humor contacy nutan7 Pune

Getting back to the show, I had no problem with Rishi's character being shown somewhat irresponsible pre-leap. After all, that was the main difference between Rishi and Indira. I wouldn't say that Indira was more mature (just going to work and paying the bills does not make you mature), but she was definitely the more "responsible" one. And that was fine. Rishi's spontaneity and free-spirit were contrasted with Indira's more grounded and serious nature and this was quite realistic. They were different- one not better than the other- but just different- with each bringing some good and some bad to the table. While the characters were definitely exaggerated, there was truth and authenticity in both these characters. And maybe I misunderstood the concept of this show, but I thought the idea was to show how these contrasting characters come together and help each other grow and change for the better.

👏 👏 well said. Perfectly analysed. not only bold but evrything in Para.this is what I wanted to say but not able to pen down Thanks


Post-leap Rishi's character is 10 years older and has a child and I have serious issues believing that he has remained the same thru these 10 years. Yes we have seen him being weary of keeping a job or earning money I suppose, but to not care about sending his own child to school! I'm sorry but this is wholly inconsistent with how his character has been portrayed for the last 18 months. But even if we assume that this is true and Rishi is as irresponsible as they make him out to be, then I have serious issues with Indira. If she is the mature and responsible one, why did she marry Rishi?? She made a choice to marry him when she did. Why the rush to marry?after all she is a girl with a wish somebody shud be there who cares for her and got rishi started loving Rishi inspite of inner warning. rishi took 6 phere jabardati and 7th fera by chance and at that emotinal moment she accepted the marriage that all Furthermore, she made a choice to have a child with this man when she knew quite well that he was irresponsible. Why??This is also an accident just before her death And then, while dying, she roped in another woman to "take care" of this man, and the rest of her nikamma family. Why?? And now that she's back, she continues to make a conscious choice to support all the nikammas in SN. And lets not mention Shweta, Zara, and now Meher- who continue to be part of the same stupidity. I'm sorry but this is not a realistic portrayal of the strong middle class Indian woman, because I refuse to believe that the middle class educated Indian woman is so lacking in brains that she will continue to be part of such a vicious and self-destructive cycle and make conscious choices that re-inforce this cycle- khud hi jung create karna aur khud hi uske bare mein continuously whine karna. This is not in the least bit inspiring. This is just sheer stupidity, nothing else. If this is the whole point of the show, then what is there to watch? The woman keeps working and cribbing about it? If Rishi and the rest of SN have not changed by now after all that has happened, they are unlikely to change now. So what's the point? Indira's life is miserable and so I should feel bad for her everyday? Is that the point? And I should applaud her for making a choice everyday to be part of this self-destructive cycle?
For people who say that HD was never supposed to be a "love story," I really don't understand what the show was supposed to be about then. I agree, maybe it was not meant to be a "traditional, tele, eyelocks, knight-in-shining armor" type lovestory but is that the only lovestory that Indian tele makers know? There is a reason the audience rejected Indira and her "jung" back in the day and the same will happen now. @ bold bold dis agree this time the jung is going to be appreciated http://www.india-forums.com/new_reply_form.asp?TID=3514988

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sahi baat ki hai boss...dil jo chahta hain wo chahta hain...ab wo chahe rapist sam ho ya kidnapper saheb, iss dil ka kya kare. Dil ko ya rapist aur kidnapper ke saath romantic love story chahiye aur agar ye nahin ho sakta to zindagi jung hai zindabaad😆
Waise mujhe ek aur baat nahin samjah aati...since Indira is the responsible, mature, and just one, how come she doesen't get justice for Shweta and Zara? Uska husband aur beti to hain hi bure, but what about her? If she was really the "good" one, she should find Shweta and hand Indu over to her, then she should find Zara and hand Rishi over to her. Zimmerdari se bhi chutkara mil jayega aur justice bhi ho jayega 😆Perfect solution to all of Indira's jung.
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@bold Truly this is the perfect sol. of indira's jung. This may not end all her zimmedari but surely it'll reduce it some extent. And then she can easily concentrate on her main zimmedari "The Besharmas". Hope CVs will think on it. Aur iske baad Shweta bhi khushi, zara bhi khushi aur Indira toh double khushi. Chahe isse Rishi aur Indu kush ho ya na ho. Waise hai toh dono kaamchor hi ek nikamma hai toh dusra mannerless spoil child.
Edited by amanrj - 12 years ago

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