So Indira's perspective on this debacle - Page 2

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jjkg

And we are being mocked by the "enlightened". Wonderful, just bloody wonderful👏


What does this mean Jem ? When did I mock you ?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jem,
Indu is someone who has lived for her family's happiness and she has made it clear to Rishi in the past too that no matter what she is not going to ditch the family and lives for them and serves them unconditionally. Why so ? nobody can justify, this is how she blindly loves and cares her family.
Today, a new family member is born and she is a girl and Indu doesn't want her to be a tainted child who brought bad luck to her family and the kid would have to face the brunt rest of her life if Munna was immediately arrested. By asking Sumer to postpone the arrest of Munna doesn't mean her love for Rishi has vanished nor her objective in life to bring back Rishi has faded. The family after so long have had something to cheer up, which she doesn't want to be a spoil sport.
A few hours of delayed interrogation does it make so much of diference to the final outcome of the case ?
Note, that it was just a guess from Sumer it could be Munna and based on that probably Indira doesn't want to jump the gun so early proclaiming munna as the chief culprit behind Rishi's kidnap.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wonderful post dear... very well said... and i completly agreee

wid you...

m not liking this new indira... we want our rishi and old indira- d hitler didi back...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well now indira is such a shameful woman..just hate her.

I really dont want rishi to come back to SN & see this bludy woman's face.

Otherwise best thing is let them show Rishi is dead so that We can take a right immediate decision
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sanam-

First of all > 👏

I do not buy this weak argument that Indira did it for the newborn baby, or for a few moments of happiness. This line of thought is beyond my understanding. A child is born - fine. But what about justice? That is equally important. a child is born and a man might die - and he isn't just any Tom Dick or Harry, he's Indira's husband, for God's sake!!

Actually, this is not even about Munna's child. The real bone of contention is with Indira's laid back attitude. For a woman whose husband has been kidnapped, she seems quite okay to waste time. And time is a critical factor. It can determine the fate of an individual.



Sanam,

U are back!! or did I miss ur posts?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sanam-



My dear, I came back yesterday, so you haven't missed me at all.

But I sure did miss you

🤗



I missed u so, Sanam. Haven't been reading anybody's posts or watching either. Just read the written updates. Will wait for RIshi to come back!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sanam-

First of all > 👏

I do not buy this weak argument that Indira did it for the newborn baby, or for a few moments of happiness. This line of thought is beyond my understanding. A child is born - fine. But what about justice? That is equally important. a child is born and a man might die - and he isn't just any Tom Dick or Harry, he's Indira's husband, for God's sake!!

Actually, this is not even about Munna's child. The real bone of contention is with Indira's laid back attitude. For a woman whose husband has been kidnapped, she seems quite okay to waste time. And time is a critical factor. It can determine the fate of an individual.

Sanam...
Leave apart that arguement that Indu chose to see the happiness of the family for the new born baby and point at her laid back attitude as you say...
Here, Indira gets accused for what ? that she didn't tell Sumer immediately arrest him and put him behind bars ?
First of all Munna is just a circumstantial evidence and there isn't an eye witness where the case can be solved outright and Indu's husband would be freed in no time... Munna is just an accused not the the culprit until confessed.
Other point, had Indu permitted Sumer to arrest, yet the arrest can take place only until Sumer has warrant to do so which he can provide only the evening, thereby the arrest would have taken place only in late evening and that meant the interrogation in the night or morning is just few hours difference.
If at all I had to point fingers on Indira that would be, she was someone who always bowed in front of rules and never being emotional when it came to punishing the culprit in the past, but this time she chose to be emotional and broke the rule for her own convienience and blackmailed a cop from doing his dutiies, something which I completely agree she was at fault, but as a bua and a member of sharma nivas she her own reasons to do so.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Mahesh. Ok Lets walkthru at the points

you say
First of all Munna is just a circumstantial evidence and there isn't an eye witness where the case can be solved outright and Indu's husband would be freed in no time... Munna is just an accused not the the culprit until confessed.

Other point, had Indu permitted Sumer to arrest, yet the arrest can take place only until Sumer has warrant to do so which he can provide only the evening, thereby the arrest would have taken place only in late evening and that meant the interrogation in the night or morning is just few hours difference.

My response
The whole point is not about warrants and arrests.
It is about arresting Munna for questioning, not charging him with something, so that he can either provide info, or be eliminated as a suspect

Police even in real life, bring in suspects or witnesses for questioning without a warrant.

In HD serial land, they have not had to get a warrant for arrest of anyone. Even Sameer was brought in without FIR and Sharmas, Diwans met at the police station.
Forgive me please, but this technicality does not pass the smell test.
  • If Indira had not stopped him and he had not caved, he would have arrested Munna
  • He did not need a warrant the next day either. It was more than 12 hours later, afternoon, night, morning etc
  • Munna went into the police station for something else and was trapped there
  • Where was the warrant then?
Even Jhumpa and Lilliput were arrested without an warrant, only on Indira's say-so


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You say
If at all I had to point fingers on Indira that would be, she was someone who always bowed in front of rules and never being emotional when it came to punishing the culprit in the past, but this time she chose to be emotional and broke the rule for her own convienience and blackmailed a cop from doing his dutiies, something which I completely agree she was at fault, but as a bua and a member of sharma nivas she her own reasons to do so.

My response
It is not about rules, principles, responsibilities and other niceties of life. It is even more basic than that, and I have been failing to get that across.
It is a question of LIFE AND DEATH

Throughout history of humans, we humans have chosen to place "LIFE and DEATH" as the most primal and most important of concerns.
  • Nothing beats it.
  • It is our moral core
  • Even animals abandon everything to save one of their own
That is why, in cases where people's lives are in danger, police, doctors, everybody bends the rules, even if they have to get fired later

Here, Indira is NOT being asked to choose between choosing to be a good Bua versus a good wife.

It is the decision between saving Rishi's life (another murder attempt at worst, continued torture at best)...versus...giving Munna a chance to get drunk, party etc.

The little girl is not going to be impacted by his being brought in for questioning then or 24 or 48 hrs later. As I said in the first post, her poor life is marred from get-go because she has Munna Sharma as a father.

People who would have been impacted are the adult Sharmas.

Indira chose to give them a chance to further party, get drunk etc versus trying to get to Rishi as soon as possible such that his life could be saved.

I cannot be more stark then this.

This is as black and white situation as it gets.
It was NOT a choice between Rishi's needs versus her nieces needs
It was a choice between Rishi's torture and death ...versus... sharma partying



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Posted: 13 years ago
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This is Indira's failing as a human being, not even as a wife.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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And Mahesh, another important distinction

It was Sumer who said "mext morning". Indira straight away said she will withdraw her case

"withdraw her case" was like ripping the hearts of Indira's lovers

She has reduced a person's life to just a "case", a person who she saw being beaten and pushed off the building

How could such a "phrase" even enter her mind.

By making an equivalence between Rishi and "case", she has reduced Rishi to the status of "paperwork"

How inhuman is it?


PS: And she is a woman who loves Rishi, is her husband and blah, blah, blah

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