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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jodha Akbar is a good example too. The song that plays right before their consummation is made all the more powerful because of what happened before


I know that in the west, it is a commonly held perception that keep the sexual tension alive, the sexual chemistry on a long simmering burner. Once the longed for confession and consummation happens, it is almost the end of the drama.

That is why I was shocked that HD decided to move so fast with confession, repeated marriages and consummation.

That is why all have been saying that HD needs to slow down. In its rush, it was skimming the story and sprinting to the finish line. But an Indian serial is not a sprint, but a marathon. They badly needed to add depth to the charcaters, flesh them out, not have them so uni-dimensional etc.

This falls all under the purview of story team (in India it may be different)

But what I am objecting to is the meaning of "slow" that this new director seems to have adopted. It is not depth, but wasting time by gimmicks that kill time. No additional dialogs/scenes. Just slow motion or repetition
Edited by jjkg - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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About the New direction It has a slogan
"You will never dare to watch my show in future and slowly will achieve it"

And there are many ways to do this and have already started with playing with lead characters and
introducing more bloopers day by day and adding unnecessary entries(don't know how to deal with them) and creating the scene and mock them time to time to worsen the track...
It is a promise from his side and hopefully will never break up..
Edited by kumarC - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: 100raj

HD is not love story.so no need to concentrate much more on romance.

nut what is we lacking now is --a good story.


basic problem of HD is lack of story.

so cvs are making just time passing tracks.they want to fill episodes.

in last 5 months what they are showing again and again??

7 marriages-- and now kidnapping also going same.

we already seen 2 kidnaps.

now seriously cvs need to go back to drawing board and need to write a good story for HD.and they should show that story with out any experiments on day to day basis.

these type of filler tracks[like this new kidnapping track] not able to sustain HD for long.



Exactly

They need a major story arc with filler tracks that flesh out the characters.
Like a necklace with big diamonds seperated by strings of pearls. Diamonds symbolizing major events in the story arc, pearls the daily episodes, filler tracks

When the began they should have charted out the character growth arc of both leads. At what point what happens. With these requirements, the writers could get busy with writing tracks that reflect the main storyline
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Posted: 13 years ago
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One of my first comments on this forum was HD is walking a tight rope. It is trying to be a daily sitcom as well as a drama. It will be excellent if they pull it off. But they need to work really, really hard at it.

For awhile it was successful. Even during rape trial, with Rani Bhatija, they introduced sitcomish fun in a dramatic arc.

But now it is dropping balls left, right and center.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahkutty

My suggestions to HD CVs (as it seems they take stolen my idea about Naya kiraayadar, I take it as my right to give instructions to undercooked directors)

1. Watch HD again from beginning: New director need to go and watch HD from the beginning as I feel the new director has no idea whatsoever about the characters were introduced and how they grew. So, watch HD for the past 6 months to get a hang of the main lead characters.
2. Character Assasination: Stop this character assasination of Rishi and Indira. Anyone who watched HD from day one would tell you how badly Indu and more so to a greater depth Rishi character has been butchered. Should this be written in bold and red caps that everyone feels Rishi has lost his charm ? how could a character like Rishi who was smart, intelligent, brave, a qualified lawyer, with great presence of mind, can be shown so dumb in this kidnap track ? He is literally a spineless character who is banking on a female to get rid of 2 goons.
3. Stop experimenting unnecessarily: I feel this whole kidnaap track and introduction of Sumer was absoluletly uncalled for and a bizzare move. You could have still come up with a good track of Rishi absconding and Indu in pursuit of finding him out where in the end Rishi unmask that family member who plotted against Inshi without Sumer. With so many introduction of characters, the show is gradually losing its charm and flavour. For god sake, stop experimenting with characters and deviating from the main plot.
4. Bloopers: There seems to be hardly an episode which goes by without any blooper. Bloopers are turning out to be the surprise package in HD. It only shows that someone who is still learning the trade has no idea how to contain them.
5. Time to retrospect: I think the PH and channel need to have a close watch on the proceedings and how the show is losing plot and stream at the moment. You get to see everywhere fans disappointed wtih HD and gradually quitting the show with utter intolerance to the show.
6. Don't take fans for granted: Finally, the fans are being taken for a roller coaster ride by the producer and the CVs, stop this. We all love Inshi... Some watch it for Rati and some for Sumit. So, don't break their pair nor cut down on their screen space or butcher their characters. it is time that fans views are taken into account and what fans want to see and the answer is pretty obvious... everyone wants Inshi screen space... There is so much of potential for Inshi as a pair to take mileage and I bet, TRPs are only going to increase with Inshi.
We want to see some logical stuff from hereon and hopefully the new director learns from his misake and hopefully the mistakes are rectified and things move forward smoothly and HD regains its lost charm and entertainment value that was once promised.


Bravo Mahesh👏👏👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jjkg

One of my first comments on this forum was HD is walking a tight rope. It is trying to be a daily sitcom as well as a drama. It will be excellent if they pull it off. But they need to work really, really hard at it.


For awhile it was successful. Even during rape trial, with Rani Bhatija, they introduced sitcomish fun in a dramatic arc.

But now it is dropping balls left, right and center.




now main problem of cvs is that--they not able to decide what they are going to do with rishi character.

earlier director has some thing in his mind about rishi.[he repeatedly used death words for rishi.]

now new director still not decided what he going to do with rishi.
to make rishi fans happy --he shown some scenes of rishi in last week.
otherwise why show rishi escaping and re -kidnapped.??
this is just to make rishi fans happy.

still cvs and director did not know how they going to end this track.
it seems they are still writing this track.and everything will be depended on feedbacks and trp.

this is worst thing happening in HD.
starting a track without knowing how to end this track.


Edited by 100raj - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Have a look and discuss-
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2976638&PID=57173480&#57173480
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi there fellow members,it is a very good topic,and I agree with all the viewpoints.As far as I believe,no theater plays,no movie,can create magic just with a good story.It is in fact the quality of direction,the skill of actors,and the hard work of every single person behind the scenes that work together."Hitler Didi".in the beginning,seem to have a team work,where we had a good story,good direction,and very good performance from the actors.And this is seen as the audience have appreciated it,and the way we still talk about the earlier episodes.But,now its only the actors,who are putting their best efforts to justify the story-line;and its sad that their hard work and efforts are not rewarded well by the writer,and the director.
There are innumerable loopholes in direction,which cannot be justified.And as everyone is saying, the story-line after the rape-case is derailed;the chain of events after that part of the story has gone haywire.For instance,the character Rishi could have just left then,and pursued his career,or dreams;his purpose of bringing back Indira's brother back to her was somehow fulfilled,and he even fought for justice for her sister,and won the case.There was no logical reason for him to stay back.In fact,his absence from Indira's life,and Indira's feelings for Rishi could be shown in a new way.Both the characters could have grown more,and the story could have been a much interesting one.There was no need to rush into the marriage-plot;and this is exactly what derailed the story.It is indeed the mishandling of the story and events that altered the good and simple atmosphere of the show.
This shows the immature experience of the new director,who has ruined the show.And to add more to it,the present kidnapping track is written.It clearly shows that neither the writer,nor the director do any research regarding their particular jobs.The writer,for instance,always focuses on the theme of the story while penning the story;if it is a story mirroring the real life,than the events in the story should be such,which makes us identify reality in it.And reality,in the earlier episodes,was justified to a certain extent.But now it seems far away from reality,because in rel life,for instance,anyone falling from such a height,as Rishi fell,would definitely have severe back injuries,even if the person fell on the pile of sand.The density of the fall and the speed causes the intensity of injuries,rather than the way of falling.Besides,when someone is forcefully pulled inside a stationed vehicle,it is a natural instinct to fight back;whereas,Rishi easily gives away to the goons and sits inside the car.When the car stopped and Rishi was pulled,he could have shouted for help,or defended himself;but the director made it so unconvincing that it didn't escape anyone's eyes.And we don't know what else is left to make this kidnapping track go on.One thing is for sure,what is done cannot be undone;but a whole new dimension can be given to the story if it is handled well hereon.We can just hope that we get back the magic of the show,that it once had,and enjoy and applaud the actors,writer,and director's work.Whether it is the story,or the director,it definitely needs a transformation to save the show.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Earnshaw - Truer words have not been said.

The destruction started the day the rape trial ended.

It is a million dollar mystery of what happened to derail HD so suddenly, so fast. Did someone quit?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Earnshaw

Hi there fellow members,it is a very good topic,and I agree with all the viewpoints.As far as I believe,no theater plays,no movie,can create magic just with a good story.It is in fact the quality of direction,the skill of actors,and the hard work of every single person behind the scenes that work together."Hitler Didi".in the beginning,seem to have a team work,where we had a good story,good direction,and very good performance from the actors.And this is seen as the audience have appreciated it,and the way we still talk about the earlier episodes.But,now its only the actors,who are putting their best efforts to justify the story-line;and its sad that their hard work and efforts are not rewarded well by the writer,and the director.
There are innumerable loopholes in direction,which cannot be justified.And as everyone is saying, the story-line after the rape-case is derailed;the chain of events after that part of the story has gone haywire.For instance,the character Rishi could have just left then,and pursued his career,or dreams;his purpose of bringing back Indira's brother back to her was somehow fulfilled,and he even fought for justice for her sister,and won the case.There was no logical reason for him to stay back.In fact,his absence from Indira's life,and Indira's feelings for Rishi could be shown in a new way.Both the characters could have grown more,and the story could have been a much interesting one.There was no need to rush into the marriage-plot;and this is exactly what derailed the story.It is indeed the mishandling of the story and events that altered the good and simple atmosphere of the show.
This shows the immature experience of the new director,who has ruined the show.And to add more to it,the present kidnapping track is written.It clearly shows that neither the writer,nor the director do any research regarding their particular jobs.The writer,for instance,always focuses on the theme of the story while penning the story;if it is a story mirroring the real life,than the events in the story should be such,which makes us identify reality in it.And reality,in the earlier episodes,was justified to a certain extent.But now it seems far away from reality,because in rel life,for instance,anyone falling from such a height,as Rishi fell,would definitely have severe back injuries,even if the person fell on the pile of sand.The density of the fall and the speed causes the intensity of injuries,rather than the way of falling.Besides,when someone is forcefully pulled inside a stationed vehicle,it is a natural instinct to fight back;whereas,Rishi easily gives away to the goons and sits inside the car.When the car stopped and Rishi was pulled,he could have shouted for help,or defended himself;but the director made it so unconvincing that it didn't escape anyone's eyes.And we don't know what else is left to make this kidnapping track go on.One thing is for sure,what is done cannot be undone;but a whole new dimension can be given to the story if it is handled well hereon.We can just hope that we get back the magic of the show,that it once had,and enjoy and applaud the actors,writer,and director's work.Whether it is the story,or the director,it definitely needs a transformation to save the show.



we can say is simple words--

new director incapable of handling complex story of HD.

in just 15 days he ruined essence of HD fully.
Edited by 100raj - 13 years ago

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