Problems with direction of HD

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hello guys

I thought of opening a new thread that serves as being a repository of all that we find off-putting, insulting, atrocious with the direction of HD. It is obvious that none of us, be it Sumit fans, Rati fans or Inshi fans are finding the current style of direction as something that meets the standard of previous 5 months.

We are not saying that the current director should ape the previous, but his goal should be to take HD to new heights. But what has been happening is exactly the opposite.

As our disappointment, critique is buried in various thread, I thought we should have this one thread to collect all our viewpoints.

This thread is not on Indira, Rishi, Sumer etc. It is purely on quality or lack thereof of direction and editing.

This thread is for all of us - Ratians, Sumitians, Inshians. I hope all come her to provide their views

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Posted: 13 years ago
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hey i gave me views alot of time about the new director.. i would like to share here as well 😊

this is completely my POV.. i am not sure if this is right or wrong... i have no sources to tell me that my written matter is true...

i felt when first director left the show and the new director took the show in middle phase HD lost its track,
the middle phase track of HD which includes mocking marriage, immediate consumation and Hitler laughing suddenly everything happened in a blink must be directed by some assistant director - not the old director or the new director...

when new director came already HD lost its track... the new director is now trying to combine the loose strings... so sure it will take some time for him to bring back HD to track.. i would like to give him few weeks before judging his director as he is correcting the mistakes done after the old director left HD...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Here is my first post that is a subset of post on the "brand" thread

The new director is playing his part in destroying HD. His direction is so poor that even a non-film buff can see glaring mistakes. If you are going to shoot a mystery, thriller track then the direction has to adapt to show the fear, urgency etc. Here it is completely the opposite.

  1. We got to see Indira running down the stairs in slow motion after Rishi is pushed from the building. Yet we needed to see exactly the opposite.
    We wanted to see the urgency.
    Instead of showing Indira running down the stairs fast, and having some sort of "jerky" motions to make the viewers feel her intensity, her fear, her adrenaline, we got a slow run down. Total destruction of emotion that the scene warranted


  2. I really detested the direction of the shot where Sumer finds Indira distributing the pamphlets. The camera froze on him several times. As if that was not enough we had to see the frozen shot in sepia colors. We get it that he is stunned. You do not have to hit us over the head to show it.


  3. The foolish use of music to cover up conversations
    • First was the crucial scene when Indira goes to the police station to report what had happend at the building site. That whole conversation was covered up. That was crucial to highlight Indira's desperation and plea for help

    • Second was complete waste of time when we saw Sumer yelling at his subordinate. We have the misfortune to see that scene twice. Once with music covering up the dialog, followed immediately by repetition of the scene with dialogs.
      Now that is wasting time
      IF this is what this new director thinks "SLOWING THE PACE" means then God help us all😡

This is all using gimmickry and thinking that viewers will be fooled into thinking they are seeing depth in scenes.
To the contrary
When we wanted the scenes to slow down, we meant adding depth to characters, show more dialogues, internal conversations etc that show that they are aborbing what has happened to them
What the director is doing is not slowing down, but killing time
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Posted: 13 years ago
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good thread Jem..
I shall surely contribute something quite noteworthy... I need some time...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethimadhavg

hey i gave me views alot of time about the new director.. i would like to share here as well 😊


this is completely my POV.. i am not sure if this is right or wrong... i have no sources to tell me that my written matter is true...

i felt when first director left the show and the new director took the show in middle phase HD lost its track,
the middle phase track of HD which includes mocking marriage, immediate consumation and Hitler laughing suddenly everything happened in a blink must be directed by some assistant director - not the old director or the new director...

when new director came already HD lost its track... the new director is now trying to combine the loose strings... so sure it will take some time for him to bring back HD to track.. i would like to give him few weeks before judging his director as he is correcting the mistakes done after the old director left HD...



Thanks Preeti

But that is not necessarily the director's issue. It is a writers / story directors issue. After the rape trial instead of letting characters mature, take time to deal with what happened, we immediately jumped to marriage, consumation etc. Now this kidnapping, re-kidnapping thing. Not to mention the destruction of Rishi and Indira.

The second director was bad, but not that bad. Yes we saw Indira running in slow motion in a red saree and yes the costume was designed to appeal to the male roving eye etc. But that director held pace.

This new director in the name of slowing the track down, is making us see a scene two times.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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the donot thing the romantic part is director by either old director or new director because i laughed out loud looking at the romantic part in HD.. it made me 🥱

and about showing heroin eye catchy pleaseee... Indira's custome is looking like a normal girl's saree nothing like diva or something else who can catch somes eyes to that extent that hero went to the level of consumation... 😆

we have seen a beautiful and romantic love sagas on television and HD romantic track didnot match 1% with them...

one more thing romantic means it does not need to include physical things... i want to clear it before you can jump guns on me... just the expression through eyes can also tag as romance which completely lacks in HD...

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i can give you the example of Joda akbhar movie where their are alot of scenes where the romance and love showed with their eyes and small small gestures...
Edited by preethimadhavg - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My suggestions to HD CVs (as it seems they take stolen my idea about Naya kiraayadar, I take it as my right to give instructions to undercooked directors)
1. Watch HD again from beginning: New director need to go and watch HD from the beginning as I feel the new director has no idea whatsoever about the characters were introduced and how they grew. So, watch HD for the past 6 months to get a hang of the main lead characters.
2. Character Assasination: Stop this character assasination of Rishi and Indira. Anyone who watched HD from day one would tell you how badly Indu and more so to a greater depth Rishi character has been butchered. Should this be written in bold and red caps that everyone feels Rishi has lost his charm ? how could a character like Rishi who was smart, intelligent, brave, a qualified lawyer, with great presence of mind, can be shown so dumb in this kidnap track ? He is literally a spineless character who is banking on a female to get rid of 2 goons.
3. Stop experimenting unnecessarily: I feel this whole kidnaap track and introduction of Sumer was absoluletly uncalled for and a bizzare move. You could have still come up with a good track of Rishi absconding and Indu in pursuit of finding him out where in the end Rishi unmask that family member who plotted against Inshi without Sumer. With so many introduction of characters, the show is gradually losing its charm and flavour. For god sake, stop experimenting with characters and deviating from the main plot.
4. Bloopers: There seems to be hardly an episode which goes by without any blooper. Bloopers are turning out to be the surprise package in HD. It only shows that someone who is still learning the trade has no idea how to contain them.
5. Time to retrospect: I think the PH and channel need to have a close watch on the proceedings and how the show is losing plot and stream at the moment. You get to see everywhere fans disappointed wtih HD and gradually quitting the show with utter intolerance to the show.
6. Don't take fans for granted: Finally, the fans are being taken for a roller coaster ride by the producer and the CVs, stop this. We all love Inshi... Some watch it for Rati and some for Sumit. So, don't break their pair nor cut down on their screen space or butcher their characters. it is time that fans views are taken into account and what fans want to see and the answer is pretty obvious... everyone wants Inshi screen space... There is so much of potential for Inshi as a pair to take mileage and I bet, TRPs are only going to increase with Inshi.
We want to see some logical stuff from hereon and hopefully the new director learns from his misake and hopefully the mistakes are rectified and things move forward smoothly and HD regains its lost charm and entertainment value that was once promised.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethimadhavg

the donot thing the romantic part is director by either old director or new director because i laughed out loud looking at the romantic part in HD.. it made me 🥱


and about showing heroin eye catchy pleaseee... Indira's custome is looking like a normal girl's saree nothing like diva or something else who can catch somes eyes to that extent that hero went to the level of consumation... 😆

we have seen a beautiful and romantic love sagas on television and HD romantic track didnot match 1% with them...

one more thing romantic means it does not need to include physical things... i want to clear it before you can jump guns on me... just the expression through eyes can also tag as romance which completely lacks in HD...

Edit:

i can give you the example of Joda akbhar movie where their are alot of scenes where the romance and love showed with their eyes and small small gestures...


I am not going to jump on you.

You have made a perfectly valid point.

There was rush to the romance story post Jan. Before that they had been on track of a slow romance slowly simmering below the surface. One of my earliest memory of HD is new year's party where Ishaan meets his cute little girlfriend. Rishi comes over and suggests a party and later something along the lines of "Slowly pataoing the girl". Ishaan shoots back "Just as you are doing with Indira Bua!"😃 Rishi blushes furiously


Actually the best romance is where physical touch happens after a long ardous slog. And when the touch happens, it adds so much emotion and depth to the scene, it makes it other-wordly.

That is why I really hated that they showed the first kiss between Rishi and Indira as a taunt to Sameer. Something that should have been private and held a lot of meaning that the couple would look back to in old age, was reduced as something to make a point with an antagonist. The kiss in front of the courthouse before Rishi is kidnapped, had much more emotion then that ridiculous kiss.

You have given me a thought to find time to replace my avi with my all-time fav kiss

Cheers




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Posted: 13 years ago
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i accept with your last post... yep they rushed the love story destroying it fully... and about kiss part is absolutely right...

aree yaar love stories generally people prefers it in slow motions showing every emotion of it... in HD CVs failed to show the love blossoming between the main leads and even could not show properly how their love developed after their confession... everything went in a blink of eye 😭

HD love saga can never to be remembered in the history of television

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Posted: 13 years ago
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HD is not love story.so no need to concentrate much more on romance.

what we lacking now is in HD is --a good story.


basic problem of HD is lack of story.

so cvs are making just time passing tracks.they want to fill episodes.

in last 5 months what they are showing again and again??

7 marriages-- and now kidnapping also going same way.

we already seen 2 kidnaps.

now seriously cvs need to go back to drawing board and need to write a good story for HD.and they should show that story with out any experiments on day to day basis.Hitler didi character has so much potential if cvs use it properly.

ab didi ki shadi hochuki hai.ab good story pe concentrate karo instead of experimenting with male leads.

shadi gadbadi main ho chuki hai.
rishi and indira not at all settled in life.vidith ka problem bhi hai.
so cvs has lot of potential to show indira and rishis struggle with life to establish themselves in life.and HD main theme is also about indiras struggle with life.

instead this realistic struggling track they bought in this useless kidnap track.


these type of filler tracks[like this new kidnapping track] not able to sustain HD for long.


Edited by 100raj - 13 years ago

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