New director is not cutting it

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Posted: 13 years ago
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When we all heard that a new director was coming, we were all happy, hoping that some choppiness of scenes will be addressed, proper focus will be paid on closing of scenes as well as honing on emotions of characters in key scenes.


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This director is taking the show backwards, not forwards. One pet peeve of mine is how the audience is shown that this is an important scene. What the director forgets is that audience is intelligent. Music and dialogues, emotions of characters are enough to get the meaning. In these situations less is more.

But the director seems to believe the opposite. His favorite technique is to zoom in and out of a charcater's face, then give some white space and then zoom in on another characater's face with some "dahma-kedar" music. This is so stupid😡 It ruins the scenes. He has done this many times. Even today, he used it when the family is getting impatient waiting for Rishi, as well as crucial scene where the family comes to know that Rishi is missing and Indira is going to wait for him.

These scenes were so key and the drama was all lost in the OTT editing as well as poor direction for actors. We get that the family is impatient for Rishi to show up. But we do not need the damakedar zoom in followed by blank screen and then zoom in on another character followed by white space etc.

Actors blank faces - no frantic anxiety
  • Of all the actors portraying SF, I only found Sandeep the best today. Even when his face was blank, by the expression in his eyes, one can tell what is cooking in his brain. But the rest were complete duds. Expressionless, no surprise, anxiety, shock, curiosity ... Where could Rishi have gone?

  • Most of all Kapil Soni has been a big disappointment. He was excellent when Vidith was ill and could not speak. But now, he can, his face is all blank and eyes are dead. this has been the case in all past scenes where he had a role to play.

  • Same with the actor who plays her father. He acted so well in the past, like when Rishi caught him with the necklace etc. Today, he just was dumb with that stock face where mouth is all open and face is blank.


Rati and Direction + Editing = Failure to show fast gambit of emotions cycling thru her repetitively, making her more frantic with each cycle
Rati did a good job, but disappointed me towards the end. One of Rati's great strength is the ability to use her excellent voice as an instrument to convey Indira's emotions. From a stunted little girl scared of love ...to... hitlergiri - her voice is her key instrument.

Today we needed to see disbelief, extreme anxiety, fear chasing frantically across her face as well as in her voice and her actions. We needed to see her heart in her throat. We needed to se her gulping her fear down

I was disappointed that we did not see that. We as audience know that Indira is experiencing all this. But we needed to see it too. Rati is capable of this. We saw a glimpse of this when Ishaan was missing.

I do not know whether it is the case of poor acting, or poor direction as well as editing.

Also jarring was when Munnabhai is taunting her saying that Rishi has left her. Normal Indira (i.e. Hitler) is such a focussed girl that in this situation, all her attention would have been focussed on looking in all directions, eyes frantically searching for Rishi. She would not even have heard his taunt and when pressed for attention would have swatted him away with barely a second's worth of attention.

But this Indira ( and I suspect it is the director's messy direction) had time and braincells to entertain their question, hear them patiently and then tell them to go. Hitler would not have wasted those precious seconds entertaining inane questions.

The editing of the scenes, especially closeups also did not convey that frantic feeling.

Rati nails most of Indira's scenes. But this is the first time I felt a disconnect between what was shown and what I should feel.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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When we all heard that a new director was coming, we were all happy, hoping that some choppiness of scenes will be addressed, proper focus will be paid on closing of scenes as well as honing on emotions of characters in key scenes.


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This director is taking the show backwards, not forwards. One pet peeve of mine is how the audience is shown that this is an important scene. What the director forgets is that audience is intelligent. Music and dialogues, emotions of characters are enough to get the meaning. In these situations less is more.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jem, i agree about the problems with direction, editing, and the ott style. i love how you mentioned that less is more.. and this director seems bent on showing more than using less. i dont like that.

i really disliked the direction today. this constant zooming and white flash, is a zee channel speciality i've noticed!😒 i mean other channel soaps do it as well, but i've noticed zee takes the cake with this..

you know, i used to be glad that HD was one zee show that didn't do it (the white flash and ott zooming into faces) but of course what else can we expect from this new director (this guy previously directed some Ekta shows)

overall i think it was bad direction and bad editing.
personally i didn't have a problem with anyone's acting. just my opinion.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I know I am going to get rotten tomatoes thrown at me because of my post.

Hence a disclaimer:
1. I am NOT, I repeat NOT anti-Indira, or anti-Rati, though this post and my posts in the character assassination thread are being read so.

2. This specif post is more poor direction and editing.

3. I rarely post all goey posts, be it Rishi, Indira, Sumit or Rati. My posts are usually analysis and critique from my perspective. I love Indira but sometimes her actions and failure to learn bother me. I love Rishi but his total submergence into Indira and her life bother me. And I express these opinions as such.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Surma

I don't know much about direction so not going to comment about that but I was bit upset hearing the new character's language. I couldn't understand a single word of what he was saying. Since the directors know Indian shows are viewed by international viewers, they should have taken this point in mind while they selected the language of the new character!


That was really a dumb choice !


honestly i think that character in itself was a big gamble for the cvs. and why they chose Haryanvi for this character to speak, is beyond my comprehension😆 i know in Delhi, there are ppl whom speak Haryanvi but they should have thought of the viewers! i mean how many viewers completely understand &are familiar with this language and its dialect/accent😕 lots of people have trouble understanding Haryanvi.
The language with its dialext and accent is not easy for many to understand. I mean its not as universally known obviously (its really pretty much only spoken in Haryana and some parts of Delhi). Personally I understand some of it, but I have always found the language with its distinct accent/dialect irritating and now hearing it in this show :( this character bugs me mostly b/c of the accent lol.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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about director.--

he directed so many ekta kapoor serials in the past.

shayad uska hang over- he has still in his mind.

issse [director se] acchi cheez umeed karna bekar hai.
[i said this in one of my old post itself when i come to know about his past works.]
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hariyanvi language is direct extract from hindi language.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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scripting se laker editing camara trick cvs ,direction etc. all r disscussed here heee
Producers will never thought audience will comment on that too...yaar i think these things should b leave on PH of the show they r much aware n experienced in that respect...we should not comment on creative parts of the show they r the maker they know the best
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I thought I was the only one who had noticed it...I did not connect with yesterday's episode...I was watching it like we watch any other episode...but I did not feel much...

the new director was using all the techniques he used for his K serials...but somewhere down the line i felt I missed the old flaovur, the originality...unlike before they took their time with scenes but did not dwelve into its depth...

I did not feel indira's frustration or pain...Indira's pain was a lot more clearly shown around the time Rishi's identity was revealed or when the first Indian marriage went awry...here...it seemed like a casual affair...jaise ki samaan kho gaya ho...

I am not sure if these smaller details can be rectified...Hope they do
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tabu31noor

scripting se laker editing camara trick cvs ,direction etc. all r disscussed here heee

Producers will never thought audience will comment on that too...yaar i think these things should b leave on PH of the show they r much aware n experienced in that respect...we should not comment on creative parts of the show they r the maker they know the best


PH of the show too will take inputs form general public only na? So why can we not discuss it here in this forum.

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