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Posted: 13 years ago

Sameer displayed classic psychopathic behavior today.

1. Throwing responsibility for ones actions on others

Sameer did that in a very crude manner when he laid everything at Indira's doors. If she had only not rejected his advances, if only she had married him...nothing would have happened.

He has shown no remorse what-so-ever.

2. No concept of the "other". Finer points of human emotions lost on them completely

He showed this when he told Indira that he was imagining her when he was raping Mandira.

I mean "what the heck?"

He was trying to get into her good books saying that she was on the top of his mind even when he was with Mandira. And Indira is supposed to be pleased about it?😡 🤬

Not tooting my own horn here, but this is exactly what I have been saying about Sameer since day one here, to the discomfort of my fellow denizens.

Sameer has been showing these tendencies since day one, including his less that kosher behavior as a businessman. There is no concept of empathy in his emotional makeup. He has no concept of understanding somebody else's point of view and using powers of persuasion to convince them of his point of view, or meeting them half way.

Business tactics : When he wants to get a property and the owner is not willing to sell, he uses goons to scare them into running away. He did this with Indira and SN too.
Brother's gfs : Knowing that his brother had prior claim on Indira's affections had no bearing on him. He wanted SN and then her, and by God he was getting her
He did not even bother going thru the usual seduction route. Actually psychopaths are very good initially in trapping women. Sameer did not bother with this. HE wanted Indira, and just because he said it, Indira should meekly fall into his arms.

There is no doubt in my mind that if there was an Indira-Sameer relationship, the "romance" would have worn off in an instant, and I mean an instant. There would have been no area in life where Sameer would not have abused her in the most horrific of manner, and laid the blame of his actions on Indira's doors.

That is why I have a very hard time accepting any redemption track what-so-ever, even for Mandira. And that is why I also had so much disgust when some fans expressed a desire for "Indira saving Sameer" track.

Edited by jjkg - 13 years ago

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mahkutty

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Posted: 13 years ago

good post mate!!!

but still despite all this, some want Indu and Sameer happening... what do you have to say for that ?

Sameer has gone beyond the hill to be condemed or criticized for his antics, so there is nothing much I want to add to what you have said about him..

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jjkg

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mahkutty
good post mate!!!

but still despite all this, some want Indu and Sameer happening... what do you have to say for that ?

Sameer has gone beyond the hill to be condemed or criticized for his antics, so there is nothing much I want to add to what you have said about him..

There is truly no saving of Sameer. There are many, many cases of real-life Sameers. Unfortunately within the Indian community, they do not go well recognized, and their nasty behavior is labelled as "bad boy". Many Indian mothers with marriageable age boys commit a grave sin when they marry off their sons to some naive, innocent young thing in the hopes that marriage will cure him, "love" of a good woman is all that is needed. If the naive, young thing comes from a poor family, or the boy comes from a rich family, then the naive young thing is well and truly screw*d! Even Simi said something similar when she pleaded in front of Rishi to let go of Indira, let Sameer have a one night stand with Indira so that Sameer can be cured😡

"Love" can reform a "bad boy", if only the bad behavior falls under the normal spectrum of behavior. Ricky/Rishi is a classic example. His lazy, casual attitude to life and truth changed after Vidith and Indira's entry into his life. But can one imagine Sameer changing for Vidith or Indira except becoming more and more sadistic?

My opinion only, but I have nothing but disgust for such mothers, or women who enable this kind of behavior. See the disgust we feel at one rape. But with marrying someone to likes of Sameer, we are blessing her perpetual rape - physical, emotional, mental, and most of all - her life.

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mahkutty

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Posted: 13 years ago

"Behind every spoilt brat there is a mother"

am I too harsh on all mothers ? but I suppose majority of bad boys are pampered by their mother, so I think Simi is the real culprit for a psycho child like Sameer.

When a mother doesn't find fault at what her son is doing and supports his act, then no way the son would want to think twice of his actions.

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Anju.

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Posted: 13 years ago

he's a complete psycho and like the way you said he has no pity for what he did he did not recognised his actions but still he said the most degusting things which really the show should not have included is while raping Mandira he has the face of Indira in his mind.

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Anju.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mahkutty
"Behind every spoilt brat there is a mother"

am I too harsh on all mothers ? but I suppose majority of bad boys are pampered by their mother, so I think Simi is the real culprit for a psycho child like Sameer.

When a mother doesn't find fault at what her son is doing and supports his act, then no way the son would want to think twice of his actions.

This is true he's like that just because lots of unnecessary love on behalf of Simi and the way they are left on their own while still a children Simi must thanksRishi is out the list.

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regina88

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Posted: 13 years ago

A request to cv's please send Sameer Diwaan to a mental asylum and a life imprisonment! I know he would still be a physco but at least we cannot see his face! Agree with u tm!

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edabella

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: jjkg

There is truly no saving of Sameer. There are many, many cases of real-life Sameers. Unfortunately within the Indian community, they do not go well recognized, and their nasty behavior is labelled as "bad boy". Many Indian mothers with marriageable age boys commit a grave sin when they marry off their sons to some naive, innocent young thing in the hopes that marriage will cure him, "love" of a good woman is all that is needed. If the naive, young thing comes from a poor family, or the boy comes from a rich family, then the naive young thing is well and truly screw*d! Even Simi said something similar when she pleaded in front of Rishi to let go of Indira, let Sameer have a one night stand with Indira so that Sameer can be cured😡

"Love" can reform a "bad boy", if only the bad behavior falls under the normal spectrum of behavior. Ricky/Rishi is a classic example. His lazy, casual attitude to life and truth changed after Vidith and Indira's entry into his life. But can one imagine Sameer changing for Vidith or Indira except becoming more and more sadistic?

My opinion only, but I have nothing but disgust for such mothers, or women who enable this kind of behavior. See the disgust we feel at one rape. But with marrying someone to likes of Sameer, we are blessing her perpetual rape - physical, emotional, mental, and most of all - her life.

I never was for Sam + Indu & believe it or not I have seen a few people on fb who want Samindu to happen🤢. I would be quite surprised if Sameer actually did end up changing- becoming a good guy & repenting & apologizing for the crap he's done. Maybe the CV's will end up having him lose his memory sometime in the future of the show. If he loses his memory & is away from Simi while he is in this state, he will most probably end up in a much different state but once he regains his memory...? O dear. Memory loss is a common track on Zee shows & I wonder if the CV's are gonna go through one with him. I don't know where CV's are goin' with Sameer. He is one of those trainwreck characters. I don't understand the CV's logic with showing what seemed to maybe be foreshadowing for Maneer to happen pre-raping incident but then they have Sameer rape her & now some viewers are doubting Mandira. I have quite a bit of questions swarming in my head right now😆

Anyways, if CV's are gonna have Sameer repent, apoligize, & turn positive sometime in the future of the show, I don't mind them goin' through with this. This show is such that it just isn't the same without pretty much any one character. I will admit that I don't mind the absense of Manoj but other than him, the show won't be the same without any of the other characters. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Sameer but I feel the show won't be the same without Sameer on it.

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The.Lannister

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Posted: 13 years ago

nice post as usual 😊

will like to add just 1 more point:

all the points u have included...i want rishi to build up his case against sam based on them! i m sure sharmas arent the only ones who have a dirty past. once we start looking @ the diwans i m sure sharmas will appear angels as compared to them (remember how every1 thot kutumb is so much better than simi 😆 ) & then who better than rishi to know of sams many secrets.

a few points which rishi shud thoroughly investigate:

1. is mandira sams first victim? or were thr more
2. is sam mentally stable? does he have a history of any psychological illness/ obsession/ madness for which he was admitted/ treated/ or was never taken to a doc?
3. sams reputation in the society at large...we heard wat CC had to say abt mandira...will like to hear what the rich & famous of Delhi think of Sam...is he just the apple of his parents eye who went on to achieve success which his bro cudnt...or do people gossip behind his back abt his reality & madness?
4. sams many business ventures...we know dis 4 sure that they all werent legal...then to which extent did he go to get things don as per his will

i feel this case cannot be fought on what happened dat 1 time between sam & mandira. sam can be punished only if rishi can unravel the true psych of his brother in court...maybe by provoking him into some drastic action, or collecting proofs from his past, or gathering public (sams frnds/ acquaintances) opinions (which mite be a bit difficult as rishi is the black sheep of the family!) this case has got a lotta potential. hope the CVs show it properly. dont want it to end wid anybody marrying anybody. no girl ...no matter how bad deserves to be married off to a guy like sam! he needs treatment...ASAP! want rishi to b shown fighting intelligently & not with the usual jugadu ways dat he is known for.

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regina88

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Posted: 13 years ago

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@ iolhardy completely agreed 👍🏼 rishi should know about sam's past, rani ji dosent and I don't think Sam would ever tell her! Another person who could be a good help is indira because Sam was soo obssessed with her that he tried to fit a camera in her room, the video saying to kidnap indira! Buying her as a property! Well there are many evidence that could be in favor of mandira! But, mandira did she actually changed?

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