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Posted: 13 years ago
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Agreed. Indira and Sameer could never have happened, and it was kinda sad to see so many people wanting them. Sameer is a true psychopath-the way he acts sometimes reminds me of a drug abuser. He sickens me !
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: iolahardy

nice post as usual 😊

will like to add just 1 more point:

all the points u have included...i want rishi to build up his case against sam based on them! i m sure sharmas arent the only ones who have a dirty past. once we start looking @ the diwans i m sure sharmas will appear angels as compared to them (remember how every1 thot kutumb is so much better than simi 😆 ) & then who better than rishi to know of sams many secrets.

a few points which rishi shud thoroughly investigate:

1. is mandira sams first victim? or were thr more
2. is sam mentally stable? does he have a history of any psychological illness/ obsession/ madness for which he was admitted/ treated/ or was never taken to a doc?
3. sams reputation in the society at large...we heard wat CC had to say abt mandira...will like to hear what the rich & famous of Delhi think of Sam...is he just the apple of his parents eye who went on to achieve success which his bro cudnt...or do people gossip behind his back abt his reality & madness?
4. sams many business ventures...we know dis 4 sure that they all werent legal...then to which extent did he go to get things don as per his will

i feel this case cannot be fought on what happened dat 1 time between sam & mandira. sam can be punished only if rishi can unravel the true psych of his brother in court...maybe by provoking him into some drastic action, or collecting proofs from his past, or gathering public (sams frnds/ acquaintances) opinions (which mite be a bit difficult as rishi is the black sheep of the family!) this case has got a lotta potential. hope the CVs show it properly. dont want it to end wid anybody marrying anybody. no girl ...no matter how bad deserves to be married off to a guy like sam! he needs treatment...ASAP! want rishi to b shown fighting intelligently & not with the usual jugadu ways dat he is known for.



Brilliant post👏

Only point I would differ on is the "jugadu" point.

I feel he has been playing straight upto now and is loosing. He and Radhe need to use their street smarts to uncover and bring to the court attention all the points you mentioned. The whole advantage of Rishi not leaving as he was about to , was that he knew the skeletons in Diwans closets. He needs to act on this advantage now
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: iolahardy

nice post as usual 😊

will like to add just 1 more point:

all the points u have included...i want rishi to build up his case against sam based on them! i m sure sharmas arent the only ones who have a dirty past. once we start looking @ the diwans i m sure sharmas will appear angels as compared to them (remember how every1 thot kutumb is so much better than simi 😆 ) & then who better than rishi to know of sams many secrets.

a few points which rishi shud thoroughly investigate:

1. is mandira sams first victim? or were thr more
2. is sam mentally stable? does he have a history of any psychological illness/ obsession/ madness for which he was admitted/ treated/ or was never taken to a doc?
3. sams reputation in the society at large...we heard wat CC had to say abt mandira...will like to hear what the rich & famous of Delhi think of Sam...is he just the apple of his parents eye who went on to achieve success which his bro cudnt...or do people gossip behind his back abt his reality & madness?
4. sams many business ventures...we know dis 4 sure that they all werent legal...then to which extent did he go to get things don as per his will

i feel this case cannot be fought on what happened dat 1 time between sam & mandira. sam can be punished only if rishi can unravel the true psych of his brother in court...maybe by provoking him into some drastic action, or collecting proofs from his past, or gathering public (sams frnds/ acquaintances) opinions (which mite be a bit difficult as rishi is the black sheep of the family!) this case has got a lotta potential. hope the CVs show it properly. dont want it to end wid anybody marrying anybody. no girl ...no matter how bad deserves to be married off to a guy like sam! he needs treatment...ASAP! want rishi to b shown fighting intelligently & not with the usual jugadu ways dat he is known for.



wow shru awesome points😉i hope rishi investigate these things too 😉becoj now i really wanted to see rishi as clever lawyer 😉
jjkg nice post👏


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: inshiangel

@ iolhardy completely agreed 👍🏼 rishi should know about sam's past, rani ji dosent and I don't think Sam would ever tell her! Another person who could be a good help is indira because Sam was soo obssessed with her that he tried to fit a camera in her room, the video saying to kidnap indira! Buying her as a property! Well there are many evidence that could be in favor of mandira! But, mandira did she actually changed?



Indira's statement may not count for much because she is the victim's sister. Radhe would have made a good witness because he helped Sameer plant the spy camera in Indu's room. But Radhe is now "assistant" to Rishi... We need a third person.

The kidnap video can be very helpful. Agree with you completely on this. Infact this can be used to prove Sameer's motive for Rape.

I am sure Rishi knows a whole lot about Sameer's past than anybody else in the world. I think they had this rather nasty game about snatching each other's girls (remember Sameer saying something on similar lines). If Rishi can get one or two of the girls whom Sameer has ditched in the past, then Sameer's character can also be unravelled...

Finally coming back to Sameer, it is such a thin line between being a human and an animal. Animals work on instinct. There is no consideration on whether a thing is good or bad, right or wrong. So the instinct prompts and the animal just acts.. Sameer is in the same state now..
He is out and out dependent on his animal-instincts.... The human inside him is dead...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: hrsriks



Indira's statement may not count for much because she is the victim's sister. Radhe would have made a good witness because he helped Sameer plant the spy camera in Indu's room. But Radhe is now "assistant" to Rishi... We need a third person.

The kidnap video can be very helpful. Agree with you completely on this. Infact this can be used to prove Sameer's motive for Rape.

I am sure Rishi knows a whole lot about Sameer's past than anybody else in the world. I think they had this rather nasty game about snatching each other's girls (remember Sameer saying something on similar lines). If Rishi can get one or two of the girls whom Sameer has ditched in the past, then Sameer's character can also be unravelled...

Finally coming back to Sameer, it is such a thin line between being a human and an animal. Animals work on instinct. There is no consideration on whether a thing is good or bad, right or wrong. So the instinct prompts and the animal just acts.. Sameer is in the same state now..
He is out and out dependent on his animal-instincts.... The human inside him is dead...


good thinking, hrsriks!

You have called attention to the Indira kidnap video that no one thought about. We have ll been focusing on rape evidence, Mandira-Sam's initial encounter etc That video can show Sam's mental state leading upto rape, as well as his plans to forcibly marry Indira.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@TM

I donot want to agree or disagree with your topic but I just want to correct one point of your's

Sameer is talking about one-night stand incident with Indira not about Rape... Just correcting the fact.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethimadhavg

@TM

I donot want to agree or disagree with your topic but I just want to correct one point of your's

Sameer is talking about one-night stand incident with Indira not about Rape... Just correcting the fact.




and that makes a difference how exactly?
Edited by jjkg - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jjkg



and that makes a difference how exactly?



it means difference... rape itself is a worst thing and raping someone thinking about some one is even worst thing...
one-night stand incident is different as the girl and boy are willing for that.. it is less guilty...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i hate sameer...😡 🤬
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethimadhavg



it means difference... rape itself is a worst thing and raping someone thinking about some one is even worst thing...
one-night stand incident is different as the girl and boy are willing for that.. it is less guilty...



perhaps there is an issue with the way I write posts that causes such mis-comprehension😕


The point I was highlighting is that Sameer is a textbook case of a psychopath and using examples of recent episode illustrating why.

His inability to respect other people's emotions is a classic symptom. The guy is so self absorbed that he did not think Indira would feel any pain or disgust when he said that he imagined Mandira to be Indira every step of the way - whether it was first incident or rape is immaterial.

He thought he was earning brownie points with Indira, justifying himself, proving his love when he made that statement.

If one can not feel utter disgust at this, I do not know what can😕😔




Hence I am lost as to why consensual encounter versus rape has a place in this discussion

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