Why obsession for a Psycho char like Sameer ?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I really fail to understand why there has to be so much hue and cry for Sameer's character that he needs to be liked, respected, appreciated, loved... Tell me one reason that there is positive trait in Sameer character, I would worship that character for rest of my life, why this obssesion for a pscyho character, who resorts to any cheap antics to has his way, yet a group of supporters preach he needs to loved and not bashed.
Is it for the first time we are seeing a negative character disliked by audience or members here ? It is common phenomenon that a villian character would be hated and dislked to the core, at least a sane person would certainly do. Shouldn't we call a pscyho character as psycho ? I suppose he is not a saint to give some respect, would that become bashing ? Why this preachng going on that we need to like Sameer forcibly ? Nobody is bashing or saying anythign ill of Mrunal... It is the character which is spoken about, so what is wrong in that ?
If a negative character or the villian of the show garners a significant fan following, then does it mean that others should seal their mouth because that certain group loves him ? I certainly would not, it is freedom of speech and nobody can curb that.
Or, have we entered an era where bad boys should be loved more than good boys ? If Ravan had kidnapped sita, would there be a section still saying his character should be liked and don't ever call him psycho or a cheapo because we love him whatever he does we support because it is our POV.
Will we be ever differentiate between a positive character and a negative character ?
No matter what science has made progress nobody can stop sun rise and sun set, similarily nobody can stop audience from disliking negative characters, so please stop preaching to love sameer!!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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u r right we are discussing sameer not Mrunal and if he's a psycho I mean Sameer The character is a psycho we must say psycho not a Doctor.
IFTomorrow if in an another show he'll be playing a positive role he's a Doc we'll say doc not psycho.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: KajAnj

u r right we are discussing sameer not Mrunal and if he's a psycho I mean Sameer The character is a psycho we must say psycho not a Doctor.

IFTomorrow if in an another show he'll be playing a positive role he's a Doc we'll say doc not psycho.

And if this show is aired eve after 500 years later, still the audience reaction to Sameer character will remain the same.
So, it is time for those blind followers to wake up and come to reality and rightly said Anju, it becomes a point of contention if we have problems with Mrunal, we hardly utter a word about Mrunal, it is all about Sameer we talk, which nobody can preach that we shouldn't and respect.
History says, there has been no villian who has gained respect for that character, I mean the character for what he has been...
I would criticize Sameer character anyday for the character he is, and nobody can stop that!!!
Edited by mahkutty - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well said Naya kirayedaarji...šŸ‘

I keep wondering the same. The differentiation between a positive character and a negative character should not be that difficult, but even easier should be the differentiation between a real character and a fictional character. It is beyond my comprehension how people can write essays in which they try defend a negative character's actions. If we talk about a real character, the situation is totally different. Real characters and fictional character should be kept apart from each other. A fictional negative character is being disliked for his behaviour and interaction with other people, just as in real life. When it comes to TV shows and glorification of characters, we human beings have a tendency to appreciate what we appreciate in real life. This is just a natural part of human being and it should be respected. Appreciation of negative characters is out of the question if we think this way. Only negative people appreciate negative characters.

Sameer is a fictional negative character, but we do not know him as a real negative character. Mrunal is a real human being, and the negative role he has been assigned by the CVs is not at all his fault. He is doing his job perfectly well, he delivers good acting, that is why people come here and appreciate/criticize his fictional character. Actually, we are doing him a favor by criticizing his fictional character. Criticism is always healthy. Mrunal is hopefully a nice guy with look and attitude, but in the end the CVs decide the shape of his fictional character. Their choice of including a negative character in HD should be praised. The blame for this choice cannot be placed on the viewers who like his opposite (the protagonist).

For the time being, Sameer is shown as a negative character. This is a fact and we cannot reject it. But CVs can do anything at any time, and suddenly we might see a positive Sameer. We might discuss for/against Sameer's character, but we should always base our opinions on reasonable thinking. Sadly, I have noticed that people on this forum have difficulties differentiating between bashing and critique.
Edited by indianfighter - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Sandeep
Exactly mate!!!
I reason this to forcibly opining to love Sameer character irrespective of his bad traits. It is as good as to rant we love him and we don't want him to be disliked or bashed for what he is and it is our point of view.
I found extremey strange that we have almost a compaing of sorts to accept Sameer antics. CVs have made it crystal clear, he is not a male lead as believed, he is rather a negative character who is obsessed and psychic, and there is no reason for any member to not say anything mean for such a character. In a diverse discussion, criticizim is bound to take place and how does one differentiate between bashing and criticizim ? what is bashing ? Bashing is nothing but, our disapproval for the act of the character. Sameer fixing a web cam in Indira room, Sameer molesting Indira, Sameer getting physical with Mandira, for these act, anybody in discussion is bound to bash or criticize the act. I don't find a lame reason to believe we shouldn't.
On the contrary, do people who preach follow the same ? When in the past, Rishi was shown immature, he was taken to task. Doesn't Mandira get bashed for her silliness ? Why is there a sympathy overflow only for Sameer ? why so much of hypocritism ?
Again, Mrunal is not targetted anywhere, it is just Sameer for the character portrayal.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@mahkutty No one is trying to get anyone to like Sameer or any other character for that matter. The situation is that given the environment of the HD forum, it is getting harder for some members to feel comfortable to express their opinions, defeating the whole reason for joining the HD forum. Sameer's crimes are unequivocally heinous and no one is justifying or mitigating their horrifying nature, at least to my knowledge.

There is no obsession for Sameer, just a lot of Mrunal fans who like his presence in the show and who really don't like that the CVs have made his character the villain. In the same vein as members discussing their dislike of CVs decisions that effect InShi (ie. no wedding for InShi in Maha episode and the possibility that Rishi is responsible for Vidit's condition), some members want to discuss Mrunal's acting and Sameer's possibilities on the show freely without having their topics (which they spent time and effort on) filled with member bashing, Mrunal bashing, and fan group bashing, which has been happening.
Edited by Sofie128 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Counter question...Why some people here think that they rule this forum ????...and the actor they don't like shouldn't be taken care off in the forum ???????... Mrunal Is Good...Awesome...rocking with rati...he is a convincing actor which bring live to the character ...and let me tell u that mrunal was never introduced as the villain of the show...!!!!!!!...He is psycho lover not a villain...
..I love sandeep too and even he isn't a postive char in hd but once again even he is not a villain...he is convincing and that's what matters...have u ever seen dar or anjaam or any film like that...?????...who got popular...sharukh...he was negative but he was strong...so mrunal's popularity is natural...acting matters...whatever you play...play with all your efforts...and popularity will run after you ...

moreover his fans dont want anyone to like him unnecessarily...we are enough to praise him...appreciate him for his work...we are somewhat above 40...
what we want is some space from the obsessed rishi fans ...a space where we can talk about what we want to talk...without interference...without useless bashing...and that's what is being discussed...not that inshians should like sameer...
People need to respect other's views...subduing someone from speaking will never ever help this forum in any way...balki that's wrong...this forum belongs to all the fans and when sameer get's his space in the show than even mrunal fans need to be respected...it's not about respecting the character...we can understand ...if u don't like a negative character or hate the character...there is no harm...but the thing is ....that more than speaking about the char...people here refer to the fan group with wrong words...and that seriously is pathetic...

and u said people are against just char and not actor...šŸ˜†
inshians are against the actor too...
see this page...it's mrunal page which is loaded with dislikes of inshians ...

http://www.india-forums.com/celebrity/3072/mrunal-jain/

Edited by Surbhi123 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahkutty

And if this show is aired eve after 500 years later, still the audience reaction to Sameer character will remain the same.
So, it is time for those blind followers to wake up and come to reality and rightly said Anju, it becomes a point of contention if we have problems with Mrunal, we hardly utter a word about Mrunal, it is all about Sameer we talk, which nobody can preach that we shouldn't and respect.
History says, there has been no villian who has gained respect for that character, I mean the character for what he has been...
I would criticize Sameer character anyday for the character he is, and nobody can stop that!!!

bold - there is a clear difference between bashing and criticizing...moreover as i mentioned earlier too...it'sd not about the actor/character as such,...it's about the fan group which is ill treated here...and that is not done...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sofie128

@mahkutty No one is trying to get anyone to like Sameer or any other character for that matter. The situation is that given the environment of the HD forum, it is getting harder for some members to feel comfortable to express their opinions, defeating the whole reason for joining the HD forum. Sameer's crimes are unequivocally heinous and no one is justifying or mitigating their horrifying nature, at least to my knowledge.

There is no obsession for Sameer, just a lot of Mrunal fans who like his presence in the show and who really don't like that the CVs have made his character the villain. In the same vein as members discussing their dislike of CVs decisions that effect InShi (ie. no wedding for InShi in Maha episode and the possibility that Rishi is responsible for Vidit's condition), some members want to discuss Mrunal's acting and Sameer's possibilities on the show freely without having their topics (which they spent time and effort on) filled with member bashing, Mrunal bashing, and fan group bashing, which has been happening.

i agree and i wonder is this point so difficult to understand ??????
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sure surma...why not...

You sameer fans bhi na are just like Sameer. I can't see one Sameer fan being reasonable in their view when it comes to his character.
It was time sometime reminded what sameer fans are.

sameer fans are chichore like that psycho sameer .

pata nahi why we have the special minds in this forum who actually love a psycho .

for me...all the other comments are wrong...sorry but will not mention who wrote what...but all the three comments are mentioned in this forum...even more than this...can even give u more examples...


Edited by Surbhi123 - 13 years ago

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