To the people who like Harry-hermy as a p - Page 9

Even though i told u to commenty on the edited post...i am commenting on this.

Originally posted by: sandali_

You can feel whatever you want for her, I just felt it was unfair to slander her for having boyfriends which was done in your previous post and I just stated so within my rights.

Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Even though i told u to commenty on the edited post...i am commenting on this.

U felt unfair thats ok, but i was just clarifying my points that i dont only hate her for roaming with so many boys, just because she is a gal. If any boy wud have roamed with many girls i wud also hate him. Infact, even though i dont hate Harry, i still sometimes dislike the fact that he was once in love with Cho and then Ginny. So u can see, it isnt only Ginny about whom i said, it is about anyone who roams with many.

As I said earlier it was the fact that she was being blamed for having boyfriends is the thing which I found unjust. But I see we're not going to see eye to eye on this so just I'm just gonna call it quits.

no one. Naeither have i accused anyone of saying or doing so.😕
I believe it was this very sentence that suggested so:

Okay....

Well, u might say that Ginny had no choice, but i, however do not believe in it. if ginny really cared about killing Voldy she cud have come with Harry-Hermy and Ron in the mission. U might now say that Harry forced Ginny to not come, or u might say that MRS Weasly was very strict thus she wudn't have let Ginny go. But in my opinion (IMO) they are extremely lame excuses.

Agreed that Harry didn't permit ginny to go with him. But if u remember properly, Harry also didn't allow Ron and Hermy to join him. But Ron and Hermy forced Harry to take them with him...Ginny cud have done the same.

Regarding MRS Weasly being too strict so Ginny cudnt go, well on that case, i will say that Ron was also MRS Weaslyz child. But he managed himself to go with Harry, didn't he?? Was Hermy's parent less strict? They were muggles and they didn't know anything about these. So what Hermy did, she removed all the memory from her parents, so that her parents doesnt even remember their own daughter Hermy and let her go. So, u see the step Hermy had taken just to come with Harry. She had risked her own life. Maybe after killing Voldy Hermy will realize that she is unsuccessful in taking off the charm from her mom, then what will happn?? Hemy will have to live as a stranger to her family forever. yet she took that step.

So if Ginny wanted, she cud have done the same. If she really cared for Harry...she wud have gone with him, by any means, by hook or by crook.

And even when Harry come back to Hogwarts, all she cares for is whether Cho goes with Harry to see the diadum or Luna goes. Which means even after so many days, she gives more importance to who gets Harry than Harry being able to defeat Voldy.

About hogwarts people having fun, i know i have written too much. i myself admit this isnt true. ofcourse no one was having fun. but, "compared" to Harry - Ron and Hermy, Hogwarts people were having fun. Remember the word "compare".

I can't believe I'm reading this but I'm only going to say even if Ginny or anyone else wanted to come they couldn't have, Dumbledore told Harry to confide in Hermione and Ron and only they knew all the things about the horcruxes, he didn't confide in Ginny and that's one of the reasons she couldn't have come even if she wanted to, so I find that completely baselesss to say she didn't want to accompany him and wanted to stay at Hogwarts. It was enforced by the Death eaters that people must go back to Hogwarts otherwise they would track them down. Ron got away with it as he used the Ghoul as himself pretending it had a contagious illness. And you can't compare Hermione and Ginny's parents, Hermione's can't even perform magic nor know much about it. And how can you expect Ginny to do something as drastic as remove her parent's memory, that would be so foolish as they're part of the Order of the Phoenix. It's very evident by reading the book.
I'm not going to deviate any further than I have, I believe I've made everything clear. Am not going to sugar coat anything further.

i like harry hermoine pair not in book, but in the movie😆😆

Originally posted by: sony_123

i like harry hermoine pair not in book, but in the movie😆😆

Originally posted by: sandali_

Although I'm a Hermione fan and dislike Ginny, I must admit some of what you've said I find true and it's from a different aspect so it made a very interesting read. So thanks for that and it's very well written even though I don't fully agree to it, but as you said earlier it's open to be looked at different by everyone and that's the beauty of it. But it did make me view Ginny in a different light which I quite like.

Thanks for that. I do appreciate it very much. Alot of people I do know dislike Hermione and they say aren't vocal about it because they get clobbered about it from her fans which I thought was BS but I now see it's true. Yet, it's nice to see that there are some people out there that can respect other people's opinions. You'd be amazed at how many people do dislike her .. they just don't constantly moan about it. There are alot of people who are vocal about their dislike about Ginny but there are also many who like her ... she is one of the most popular characters there.

Originally posted by: Mit's113

U r going over😕. Hermione is not as bad as u r making her😳. she can be a bit studious and all, but when the hell did she critisize ginny??? It was ginny who critisized hermy about not knowing anything in quidditch.The only one thing hermione lacked. U talk abt hermione using other boys to make ron jealous??? Well it's ron's fault to go around wid lavender just bcoz he was jealous of Krum. And wht abt Ginny? She admitted in HBP tht she went out wd sooooo many boys just to get the attention of Harry. And not trusting harry for a second wid cho. I find Ginny's character absolutely disgusting.Hermione might be a know it all. But that's what helped the trio all the time and she stuck wid harry all the time. whereas ron was jealous of harry.

Oh for the freaking love of god. I am not going overboard. I was merely sharing my thoughts on a character which is what one does on a forum like this. To me she is as bad as I said she is. I could say you are going overboard on your hatred of Ginny but I am not. You are allowed your opinions. Face it people, she's got her virtues but most of us Ginny fans don't force that onto people like you are doing to me. I find Hermione one of the most disgusting characters I have ever read. And the author glosses over many of her real flaws and the MANY things she lacks in ... Okay ? Geez man, the lack of being able to voice a thought on this board is disgusting.

FYI, moving on is DIFFERENT from using a guy to make another guy jealous. Ginny does the former, Hermione does the latter. Not the same thing. Like not seeing your guy for a year and being worried about him and then seeing him go with his ex gf away before even talking to you is something any 15 yr old girl or any woman would like. Like Hermione would let Ron wander off with Lavender. Oh wait right, she's a saint, course she would let him go.

And she criticized Ginny and Ron when she said they couldn't win a match without Harry. Even though they've done it before ... nice, telling your friends that they can't win. To me, it's an insult. Alright ??! Add it to her being a downright nasty when talking to Harry abotu the most petty thing ever aka grades and then using it to guilt Harry when she really doesn't know the game just made me laothe her even more. Being able to rattle facts about it doesn't make you understand anything ...

Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Well, if Harry wud have also roamed around with so many girls i wud have also blamed Harry, I am also not a sexist, either. Harry only loved Ginny, but Ginny dated with a lot of boys. But other than her all characters had only one lover. IMO i dont like i concept of having or dating with so many people, but once again thats only my opinion.

I also, havent said that i only hate her for roaming with many boys. I had given my reasons why i hate her. Plus, it isnt important for a character to be negative in order to be hated. Even if we think her to be postiive, i will still hate her. Feelings comes naturally which cannot be stopped. I dont find anything appealing in her character. And also, she critisized and made fun of Hermy in book six, which i absoulutely loathed.and she didnt even tust Harry, and was extremely jealous of ChoShe didnt even think wether Harry will be alive or not, all she cared about is that Cho doesnt go with HarryAnd she didn't even come with Harry when Harry needed her the most...she was having fun in Hogwarts...

Lastly, my point is that i don'thate Ginny thinking that she roamed with so many boys etc etc...my point is i am also not a sexist. (Just clarifying if u thot otherwise)😊

I too think it's sexist to hate someone cause they dated a boy and not hate the boy for it. Actually let's break it down :

Harry - Went on a date with Cho, Parvati and Luna. And then Ginny. So that makes 4 girls.

Ron - Went on a date with Padma. Dated Lavendar. Then Hermione. So 3 girls.

Hermione - Went on a date with Krum and Cormac. Then Ron. So that's 3 boys

Ginny - Went on a date with Neville. Dated Micheal and Dean. Then Harry. So that's 4 boys.

I fail to see how Ginny is the only one who had too many. You are wrong that Harry didn't have as many .. I've broken it down for you ... it's the same. The fact that she had serious boyfriends shows that she actually gave a damn about them and was trying to move on with her life when Harry didn't care.

LMAO. Yes she was having fun trying to defend others at Hogwarts and fighting the Carrows and running the DA and getting crucioed. Sounds like a real picnic doesn't it ? As for her not caring about Harry being alive or not, perhaps you missed her reaction when she thought Harry had died ... the most vocal one of them all.

And hey, who cares that she's underage and has a trace so they can find her ? Honestly. That's why she couldn't go .. not because she didn't want to. Because it would screw them all over.

Originally posted by: redhotght

LOL...I dislike her not because she's been roaming with boys, but because she criticised Ron and hermione...no one can criticise them ok except they can criticise each other😆*terribly biased opinion*😳😆But i like Ginny for some things like she doesnt ever make fun of Luna or Neville...she was the first to befriend and be nice to them😛😳

Alot of people are biased towards her like that but you are the first one I've seen admit it. It's a vry refreshing change 😊👏

Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Do u know what does the term "bashing" means?? 😕

Bashing means to critisize someone extremely harshly, and thus by the usage of extremely filthy words. Here, in I-F, bashing means anyone who uses words which arent allowed in I-F. As far as ican see, me or anyone over here, has not bashed Ginny. We are critisizing her, not bashing. There is a huge difference b/w critisicm and bashing. Critisicm is very well allowed here, so it cannot be stopped just because u r saying it to. Bashing isnt allowed, and no one bashed her - everyone critisized her. I request u, check the meaning of bashing plz.😊

I have said Ginny to be "evil minded" "Bad" "evil" and lots of things...but they all fall in the catagory of "critisicm". And not and never bashing. Hope it is understandable. Bashing is if i call Ginny to be some extremely degratory names, which arent allowed in I-F. but critisizing someone and saying her to be evil minded is allowed. and is not bashing.😊

As for "luna n hermy r also nt perfect they also hv flows in their characters no body is perfect alright " - yeah u r right. Luna and Hermy werent right too. If this is the case, then y arent u critisizing them aas well?? As i said critisicm is very well allowed in this forum. If u want, u can critisize Hermy and Luna for their mistakes as well if u want. No one is gonna stop u.

After all, this is the purpose of a discussion forum. We are here to discuss...and in a discussion its not always possible to agree...disagreement will occure, and so critisicm will occure too.

Lastly, let me make this clear again: Critisicm is Allowed, Bashing isn't.

Funny, when I said I didn't like Hermione I was bashing her and now when you are calling Ginny evil, which is bashing and criticizing, it's not bashing. Sigh. Personally, IMO, calling someone evil without any basis for it is bashing and not criticism; that's saying ... she has a bad temper.

Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Well, u might say that Ginny had no choice, but i, however do not believe in it. if ginny really cared about killing Voldy she cud have come with Harry-Hermy and Ron in the mission. U might now say that Harry forced Ginny to not come, or u might say that MRS Weasly was very strict thus she wudn't have let Ginny go. But in my opinion (IMO) they are extremely lame excuses.

Agreed that Harry didn't permit ginny to go with him. But if u remember properly, Harry also didn't allow Ron and Hermy to join him. But Ron and Hermy forced Harry to take them with him...Ginny cud have done the same.

Regarding MRS Weasly being too strict so Ginny cudnt go, well on that case, i will say that Ron was also MRS Weaslyz child. But he managed himself to go with Harry, didn't he?? Was Hermy's parent less strict? They were muggles and they didn't know anything about these. So what Hermy did, she removed all the memory from her parents, so that her parents doesnt even remember their own daughter Hermy and let her go. So, u see the step Hermy had taken just to come with Harry. She had risked her own life. Maybe after killing Voldy Hermy will realize that she is unsuccessful in taking off the charm from her mom, then what will happn?? Hemy will have to live as a stranger to her family forever. yet she took that step.

So if Ginny wanted, she cud have done the same. If she really cared for Harry...she wud have gone with him, by any means, by hook or by crook.

Originally posted by: HPCRAZY

As for Ginny..I have never liked her character as much as I've liked Hermione & Luna.But that isn't in anyway coz I've found Ginny's character to be bad or replusive or spoiled or anything of the sort.I think the main reason is that although Ginny has always been there from the very beginning JKR didn't bring her much in to limelight or in to the thick of action in the early books whereas Hermione's character has always been actively present in all the books.Thus we always got to see much more of Hermione in the books than we did Ginny & I think that's one major reason why Hermione's character feels more close to the heart.😉

Another thing is, I don't think Ginny can be blamed in anyway for not accompanying him on the quest for Horcruxes.Harry would never have consented to anybody else coming with him.He even turned down Lupin(his own teacher & a fully-qualified adult wizard)'s offer to accompany them so taking an underage witch like Ginny on that dangerous quest would have been out of the question for Harry.

Infact,he broke up with Ginny in the first place because he knew he had to embark on the Horcrux quest & face Voldy in the end.And Ginny took the blow admirably well there saying "it's for some stupid noble cause,isn't it?" Not only that,Harry didn't even want her to fight in the battle of Hogwarts,remember?

As for Ginny dating several boyfriends..yeah like Fred(or was it George?😆) said she was moving through boyfriends rather fast.On the otherhand,I think one of the reasons she started dating other guys is because she realised that Harry wasn't interested in her at that time.Besides,it was Hermione who had advised her to be herself & maybe to go out with other people.Ginny herself told this to Harry at the end of book 6remember? & Harry says "Smart girl that Hermione" So I don't think just because she had dated several boys that necessarily makes her a bad person.

As for her comment to Hermione that she would only embarass herself by pretending to know Quidditch..now that was totally out of order.I think Hermione knows quite as much about Quidditch as Harry,Ron & Ginny,even though she wasn't a good player.She is the one who lent Harry the book "Quidditch through the ages" & she was the only one of the trio who knew that snitches have flash memory.But I think it could be treated as a remark made in the heat of the moment & not something she really meant to say.Remember how she reprimanded Ron when he was calling Luna "Loony" & also told Harry that she was glad that he was taking Luna to Slughorn's party.I think those little things show her real nature & the fact that she was good-hearted.

Bottom line is, I think that both Hermione & Ginny had their own flaws but they were also nice & admirable in their own ways😃

Wonderful post, HPCrazy...!!👏 Especially the parts highlighed in RED .....I agree with every word of it👏👏
And yes, Ginny cannot be blamed for not accompanying Harry because of the trace(as said by stumps101) and also for the numerous reasons stated by sandali and krupa....I dont like her that much because I think she isnt as well-fleshed out as hermione..her character doesnt seem to have much depth(maybe because JKR didnt write much abt her in books 1-5). And when she started going out with Harry..i just felt everything was going too fast and sudden..I mean the slow buildup of romance I saw in Ron-Hermione's relationship was missing here....but I guess its not that important since JKR is not writing a romance novel😆.

Originally posted by: cezzurockz

GINNY IS NOT THT BAD!!!!

i dnt knw hw to defend this bt stop bashing her

luna n hermy r also nt perfect they also hv flows in their characters

no body is perfect alright

n she best suited with harry

n as far as hermy is concerned ron is the best companion for her

nooooo re we are nt bashing Ginny, as Labib said, we are criticizing her...trying to find her good n bad points...we also did tht wid hermy😆...so yaaa and i agree with the bolded part...u are 100% right😳

Originally posted by: stumps101

Harry - Went on a date with Cho, Parvati and Luna. And then Ginny. So that makes 4 girls.

Ron - Went on a date with Padma. Dated Lavendar. Then Hermione. So 3 girls.

Hermione - Went on a date with Krum and Cormac. Then Ron. So that's 3 boys

Ginny - Went on a date with Neville. Dated Micheal and Dean. Then Harry. So that's 4 boys.

🤣 Its interesting how the couples dated the same number of ppl. Ron-hermy =3 ppl, Harry ginny=4 ppl🤣🤣maybe JKR kept that in mind while writing😉

Originally posted by: redhotght

And yes, Ginny cannot be blamed for not accompanying Harry because of the trace(as said by stumps101) and also for the numerous reasons stated by sandali and krupa....I dont like her that much because I think she isnt as well-fleshed out as hermione..her character doesnt seem to have much depth(maybe because JKR didnt write much abt her in books 1-5). And when she started going out with Harry..i just felt everything was going too fast and sudden..I mean the slow buildup of romance I saw in Ron-Hermione's relationship was missing here....but I guess its not that important since JKR is not writing a romance novel😆.