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Posted: 10 years ago

#111

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Rakshasas are not Giants. At least not in the usual sense. They are shape-shifters. And Ghatotkacha was born because Hidimba took the form of a human to marry Bheema.

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

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Posted: 10 years ago

#112

You know, I think my earlier answers on Elder Wand.. your answers do not contradict them, they complement them.. sort of like, Bhakti + Jnana.

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#113

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt
You know, I think my earlier answers on Elder Wand.. your answers do not contradict them, they complement them.. sort of like, Bhakti + Jnana.

Sorry, i didnt get u.. there were two occasions wherin you brought up the elder :

1.Elder wand never killed Harry in the forest and I contradicted it saying it sent both Harry & Voldy to afterlife & did not show any partiality towards its master since its master surrendered without a fight.

2.Elder wand as a Hallow was never that significant to the story, which i supported saying i am not even sure why the book was named "The Deathly Hallows" since the "hallows" as such had no significant part to play..

I suppose, u were talking about the second point..if it was about something else , do enlighten me.. but if it is indeed the second point, still the matter of elder wand is 'almost' irrelevant to the actual argument regarding Dumbly's puzzles..

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Posted: 10 years ago

#114

Now I have one more doubt to add ..but its more of a general question rather than doubt..the doubt will take a proper shape once i have the answers..

Can somebody please enlighten me about the Elder Wand's "accidental" allegiance to Harry from Draco ?.. i dint get what actually happened there..🤔

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

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Posted: 10 years ago

#115

Originally posted by: Quixotic5
Now I have one more doubt to add ..but its more of a general question rather than doubt..the doubt will take a proper shape once i have the answers..
Can somebody please enlighten me about the Elder Wand's "accidental" allegiance to Harry from Draco ?.. i dint get what actually happened there..🤔

Ah.. the question of questions.

Harry snatched the hawthorn wand from Draco. So he overpowered Draco. Since he defeated its previous master, using the Draco-Dumbly logic, the Elder Wand transferred its alliance to Harry.

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#116

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

I am not sure about the Greek or Christian version of Afterlife & no i dont think JKR mentioned anything of that effect.. the term "Afterlife" in this case was purely used on the basis of hints provided in the book.. Harry, Dumbly & Voldy , all three were there & all three were dead..so it certainly wasnt "life", it may have been just a portal or a gateway though since it was like a modified version of King's Cross Station.. Harry boarded a train back to "life" & as for Dumbly & Voldy , they probably boarded trains to Heaven & Hell respectively..😆

However, the elder wand played no role in bringing Harry back to life , it only sent him & Voldy to afterlife or whatever that place was..as mentioned in the book Harry was able to return due to Lily's Sacrifice still alive in Voldy's body on Earth..

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Posted: 10 years ago

#117

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Ah.. the question of questions.
Harry snatched the hawthorn wand from Draco. So he overpowered Draco. Since he defeated its previous master, using the Draco-Dumbly logic, the Elder Wand transferred its alliance to Harry.

Hmm.. so "snatching" the "hawthorn wand" from Draco made the "elder wand" award its allegiance to Harry but Killing Harry directly did not qualify Voldy for its allegiance ?.. as complicated as it sounds, still a rather twisted explanation is possible in this case given the nature of the predicament..moreover, Wandlore is an incredibly complicated branch of magic,so thats that.. i ll just have to be content with it..

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

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Posted: 10 years ago

#118

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

Hmm.. so "snatching" the "hawthorn wand" from Draco made the "elder wand" award its allegiance to Harry but Killing Harry directly did not qualify Voldy for its allegiance ?.. as complicated as it sounds, still a rather twisted explanation is possible in this case given the nature of the predicament..moreover, Wandlore is an incredibly complicated branch of magic,so thats that.. i ll just have to be content with it..

Voldemort didn't kill Harry directly; he tried to kill Harry using Harry's wand, so it didn't work. If he had beaten up Harry instead, then maybe.😆

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Surya Sundarraj Sriram

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Posted: 10 years ago

#119

Originally posted by: Quixotic5

I am not sure about the Greek or Christian version of Afterlife & no i dont think JKR mentioned anything of that effect.. the term "Afterlife" in this case was purely used on the basis of hints provided in the book.. Harry, Dumbly & Voldy , all three were there & all three were dead..so it certainly wasnt "life", it may have been just a portal or a gateway though since it was like a modified version of King's Cross Station.. Harry boarded a train back to "life" & as for Dumbly & Voldy , they probably boarded trains to Heaven & Hell respectively..😆

However, the elder wand played no role in bringing Harry back to life , it only sent him & Voldy to afterlife or whatever that place was..as mentioned in the book Harry was able to return due to Lily's Sacrifice still alive in Voldy's body on Earth..

Refer this: http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo