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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awww Jzee, I hope you feel better soon🤗 Will look forward to reading your written update whenever you feel upto it...

You know I realize later on just how much this takes out of us, haina? LOLL...there is some solid work involved in this but then it's like we cant' help ourselves either...GK pull us in so...

Take your time though...I'm still recuperating from my mad caps session...not really feeling upto doing more caps right now either...lol



@VJ: Heyy glad to see you back! Yeah things must be very hectic with the festival season but will look forward to reading your thoughts whenever you get time :-)


@Prachurya: Aww thank you so much! I'm glad you liked them! Yeah literally every second has some nuance so I'm just sitting there staring in awe and trying to capture it😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^ I know man - I came around to the forum twice or thrice through the day, but had so much going at work covering up for yesterday's off, that every time I came around I just lazed about the written. The best part is I've already watched the scene about 10 times since yesterday to sit down and write it out, so i know almost by heart what I want to, lol, just being a bum typing it out... and I still have two days worth of KTLK to catch up with... buzzz!

Okay, I'll get a big pot of green tea tonight and sit and do this pukka!

ps: Also sending you a PM about next clips Nur, so I can upload them in advance...
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The next bit - tera to woi kaam hai, ki aa bail muje maar - Bull's eye Kesuda! And who would know better than you - because hello, her greatest aa bail muje maar antics involve messing with you, despite the repeated beat she takes at it - like anyone with a better head would know to give up and mind their own business. But your Gulaal is as buttheaded as her Kesar, and won't give up on him. To tum to shukar manao uska woi kaam hai, aa bail muje maar 😆

Special mention goes to Gulaal's expression - again 😆 She's totally getting into the shoes of the precocious 3 year old being told here, the way she looks at him from beneath hooded eyes, as he continues to parade/reprimand - hilariously cute! ☺️ And he goes on about how the family has left her behind in this state - to which she takes a momentary timeout from her 3 year old antics and tells him it was important, mildly reminding him as if, that he should have been with them too, perhaps unintentionally implicitly even asking why he did not go! Kesar averts eyes showing only the slightest fluster, before picking new target - Talli - the eternal 'shield' to G and K in their times of dire ostrich/baiting need 😳 And starts off on her then - how she's forever tailing Gulaal *nods vehemently with justice demanding look* and how she too isn't here to tend to Gulaal now when needed *drops jaw, facepalms, and rolls eyes exasperatedly, in turn* Seriously Kesar, you might as well trade your brain for a ton of bricks! Tum aur main aur tanhaai ki aisi mast mauqe par aisi kabaab mein haddi idea aayi bhi kaise!!! 😡 Can't end commentary on this bit without making further mention of the expressions with underlying tones of this scene. To me, its an almost reverse scenario of the aur tu GK scenes - because Gulaal could almost use Kesar's favorite magic phrase back on him here! He totally pulls off a vintage Gulaal, by ranting off about everyone, except him - almost like in his head he'd rather be saying, how could I be away all day doing nothing, when she was in this state? And from Gulaal's POV, I could almost hear her tell him, why did it matter if no one was here - he was, right?! ☺️ Especially when she tells him unka jana zaruri tha - its, like I said above, a mild reminder to him of how he too should have gone, and at the same time a soft acceptance that everyone's absence is irrespective, when he's there for her. Sure she's not thinking out the latter bit explicitly even in her own head - but that's really is it!

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When the next bit played out (post Talli interruption *yawn*) Kesar has taken a break from his rant cum reprimand cum why can't you take care of yourself Gulaal faceted speach which really implies why wasn't I here taking care of you all day? There is this content undertone to this bit. Gulaal has a tired smile about her narrative - but the tired has gone from being lonely to wary ... to peaceful now. In fact, it creeps almost the same instant as Kesar putting the wet bandage on. So even if it seems like an accompanying expression to her 'fond narrative' of jhalli Talli, it's actually as Kesar has worked a sort of midas touch on her mood! ☺️ The tired expression which was bordering on pale and dreary actually has a shine about it - and although this is an out of the blue comparison, I was almost reminded of Gulaal from the scene when the water spring bursts through after the listless digging by Vasant and her - the way the exhaustion has transformed into an ethereal sort of glow on her face, a smile so satisfied even as she fainted within moments! On a side note - @Gulaal discussion Talli in this blessed solitary moment with loverboy *headdesk* This woman needs urgent training in choosing befitting topics of conversation for befitting moments!

Brownie points to Kesar in this scene above. While Gulaal talks on - a sudden energy in her to literally chatter, even if in a slow way cause the fever is real after all - Kesar has his own form of content in his body language and expression. The concern is not agitated or restless in being futile anymore. In yet another out of the blue comparison, this scene is almost like the one where Vasant shares his dream with Gulaal post their wedding. Gulaal over here talks to him, in a soft almost dreamy way about Talli's happiness, like she's vividly imagining a dream come true - and in a figurative sense so it is, because Gulaal's eternal dream, with or without Vasant's explicit outline, is about witnessing a genuine happy wave all around her - and the way Kesar just listens on in silence, is not exactly a Gulaal kind of avid listener from the GV scene, yet in his own way, he is the kind of listener a partner would be! For the first time since Kesar's return, Gulaal has actually found a calm listener in him, the kind who would sit and listen to her for once - not because she needs to vent or share a problem or talk out urgently, but just because everyone has those moments when they just want to sit back and talk in a nostalgic or speculative manner. Those late night no consequence but oh-such-content rendering talks. This is GK's first. In her own way, Gulaal is sharing a vision with Kesar - sadly for us, through Talli's example, but still. In his own way, Kesar is being a receptive audience - although the focus of his interest is in tending to her, he's just letting her talk, and there is so much peace about him, not because she is well already, but because this is what his heart finds true peace in. Being so naturally in Gulaal's company, being a kind of latent source for her calm, and having to care no damn about walls and vengeance and tempers and blah! The entire setting of this bit, as he works on bringing down her temperature, finding satisfaction in serving her, and she just talks in an unhurried manner not distracted by a thousand other things she has to take care of than be indulging in a feel happy silly talk - is a talk between friends, between partners, and ideally, between Kesar and Gulaal. The kind of conversations they have had even when he was only a boy, and her, an 'elder' - like the kavachh dialog? or n others?! *happy sigh*

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Edited by JZephyr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Jzee,I already pressed the like button so this is just to let you know that I just finished reading the first bit and it is so amazing.loved it looking forward to the next one.😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Okay - because I'm supaa dupaa late - here go pumpkin spice cookziee from Nur and my personal stock *ahem* to bribe you guys to still read what I'm going to go bak bak about 😆

In the name of coming soon Halloweens -

n for gooey-caramel icing lovers

How considerate am I when bribing?! 😆

Chalo, on to the bak bak...

So I'll do the major scene we have in bits and pieces, cause its LONG (5 batches of caps in proof) and every bit IMO needs dissecting. Now sit back with tea/coffee and cookies, and pado! 🤓

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So DOP starts by taking control. The way the scene kicks off with that shadow at the door, and then the zoom in capture of the room, made me initially think like it could have been one of those Kesar walks out on 'conscious' Gulaal, only to be adat se majbur later and come back check on her when she can't catch sadu being a softie! When the camera proceeds to zoom in on her sleeping person, and further his oh-so-vulnerable and guilt ridden expression, it almost confirms the idea of time having lapsed between before and now - but after taking a guilty moment's view of his beloved, he 'attempts' to pull off the indifferent knight in shinning armor. The moment he puts down that jar of water with sound enough is, like Maz said - the surprising revelation of a different mood.

Apparently, Galool joins our surprised team - is woken from her only-begun-to-sink-back nap mode and then woken alert, at the sight of him. What does Kesar do - concentrates on pouring the water, like its rocket science for water to flow in a steady stream from jar to glass downwards gravity wise 😆 knowing she's nothing but staring at him. And proceeds to hand her 'the water' with a look that reads - haan bhai, main hi hun, koi bhoot ni 😆 Galool is not convinced. She stares at him, unblinking, like there will be a poof and he'll vanish. But seconds pass - and Gulaal's expression of incredulity, Kesar's so implied I'm cold and caring mask are such a funny sight, especially Galool 😆 She's like this far from pinching herself, or worse, pinching him - I'd have loved to watch his reaction to her pinch test 🤣
But somehow, it turns out, she does believe its him. I suppose the 'caring' Kesar in her imagination was not supposed to 'care' with so much 'attitude'?! 🤔 😆 She probably tells him apart as real from a ghost because he has that characteristic - helping cause I'm noble like that, and not cause I care look about him! How can Galool take a beating to attitude? She looks away, giving him her side, and as if to remind him that she was never the 'lesser' butthead tells him - tune kyun taqleef ki? Hah, Kesar! You thought she was going to be a ready take your help and ease your guilt and ego damsel second time?! Because, remember how readily she cast aside his frigid tantrums at the first instance of him offering her a helping hand in the aam bageecha? This is not the same thing, Gulaal makes it clear. Because in between that agreeable moment, and now, stands the high strung - isse main badlungi nahin, na hi mera pyaar - moment. Plus, let's admit, the Kesar who helped her then was definitely more showing of his humility. This one is still trying to be a jerk 😆 Lo phir, Gullu bhi to is Gullu for a reason na! 😎

Not like Kesar doesn't know. He says nothing in answer to the (very deserved if I may say) 'taqleef' retort Gulaal has tossed at him - because hello, kya bolega?!...i had to take taqleef, because i can't see you in taqleef like that...?! Yeh, right. Wisely, he keeps the answer to himself. Then Gulaal asks him to put it aside for later - and Kesar has his chance. His 'pi ley' tone - so perfectly done by NB, including the way he does his eye wriggle and sigh away exasperated - is such a sign of his frustration at being guilty and unrelenting at once. He's worried sick and refuses to 'show it' so he tries to cover his tracks by talking to her in that exasperated tone of an elder talking to a precocious 3 year old 😆

But who-oh hang on! Not like Gulaal is giving up anytime soon - you can wish Kesar! And so without playing Galool and beating around the bush, she pulls off a Kesar blunt classic - tu ye sab kyun kara hai? tujhe to meri koi parwaa nahin haina?! - Yes, the question that was hanging between his extended offering hand, and her resistance to accept this time - unlike the aam bageecha - was this. The reason he should help her, if he doesn't care. Rightly Gulaal wants to know - and not surprisingly Kesar has no answer to the question itself - or no answer he can give anyway - so what does he do?! Dhamkaoes Gullu - tu pi rahi hai ya main...?!😲 Like come ON! Help bhi karta hai, toh at gunpoint 🤣

And you know what I like so much about the next moment? As Gulaal turns to look at his 'dhamki' and Kesar sort of breathes heavy/impatient - is the emotion that Neil portrays so well here. Of still holding onto the meager effort of not projecting vulnerability, of still covering tracks of his 'concern' under the mask of impatience in getting it over with - he tries to put it out like he's getting mad at her stubborn hold up, but really, he's so troubled inside, a part of him so mad at his own self of the compulsion to hold back! And he extends the hand further towards her - so different from the anticipation and hesitance in the aam bageecha (yeh, I keep going back to compare because there's so much scope!) because Kesar was undeniably a whole lot less guilty in that moment than this - which makes him a whole lot more pretend-grouchy here. Plus, that came after the dream like sequence of watching Gulaal in a trance. This comes after an exhausting day of reading letters, asking kyun, getting no answers, and hating himself to want to hate her, hating himself to never manage it! The preceding mood in both cases sort of filters down to these residual ways of his 'offering' help. And of course, they both know - whether or not either or both deny - that Gulaal takes the water not in fear of his dhamki 😆 Not to miss the way he grabs the glass out of her hand to put it out of her reach. Almost gruffly - the kind of gruff one is, say, when one grudges and worries equally for a close one - and the 'gruff' is so contrasted by the almost soft way he puts the glass down on the bedside. A subtle but sure sign his 'attitude' is all for show - because if he really was oh so miffed and mad at her, the glass would be slammed down hard! But what I'm really thinking myself as he puts it away so out of her reach is how conveniently he assures making chance for himself to be of service again ☺️ 😆

Next comes the moment Nur likes to tag - don't try Kesar, you can't really hold back 😆 - It takes only some expressions of pain and exhaustion for Gulaal, and the momentary casting away of her gaze from Kesar, for him to relax out of the attention attitude and betray the real emotions instantly - his face screaming worry. The way his hand goes towards her, reluctantly but helpless of its own urge, then pulls back at the slightest raising of her eye, and springs right back to her forehead to check the temperature as her face contorts in pain again - is almost another sequence of the kind of moment he had outside her door - extending his hand to open it and walk in, then holding back and walking away only rush back in at the fateful sound of the crashing glass. This now, is just another instance, and same round of reactions. And yet another of Gulaal's reasonable questions - tu gaya ni sab ke saath - goes unanswered, for being yet another question that he has no convincing lie to ward off with. No reason good enough to tell her why he disobeyed MB's word, except if he was to name the real cause. The best part is, even as she asks him the question, Gulaal has the sound of at least part rhetoric. Like the answer is redundant anyway, between them.

And more rhetoric statements follow. Kesar feels and discovers her high fever, and when he asks her - tune vaid ki wo dawa ni khai na? - it just melts my heart to a gooey marshmellow, sigh! The way these two know and recognize these trivial traits about each other - to imagine this is the Kesar who bears so much grudge in his heart over her dubious intentions to have saved Dushyant, and just this second he knows without telling how typical of Gulaal it is to neglect her own health even in such suffering. If only he would sit down and ask himself how instinctive this statement was, how he spoke not in question but in reproachful rhetort - he would embark upon unraveling the mystery of his kyun! But naturally as ever, these two slip in and out of this so well known yet so alien ground between themselves! Gulaal doesn't answer him, no, actually shuts her eyes to not answer, nothing.

And then as he rummages through her drawers - another natural intimacy, the way these two just assume access (and remember this is the guy who told her aise duro ki cheezon ko haath nahin lagate ...😆 ) I love love love the expression on Gulaal's face. The tentative, studying look, undecided on what she should make of these actions and gestures, especially the concern that is evident whatever he tries to pretend! And when he asks her where the medicine is, Gulaal is actually quiet for a moment, looking at him - still attempting to make sense and come to a conclusion. Again, the interesting touch is Kesar holding her gauging eye - because even as he struggles to exercise caution in how much he lets her on, he's not going to let her brush this off. Neil's extra nuance of continuing to breathe in a difficult manner, continues to be reflective of the whole undertone of his worry vs his ego upholding, as emphasized by his stiff words. 👏

But again, as Gulaal gives in and tells him where, there is reason to believe she can tell this stiff apart from the usual frigid vibes he gives off. She's skeptical about the 'why now' of his concern, but not the concern itself! And how natural is it for these two, to be trusting like that? Even after showdowns like the one preceding this, where Kesar all but tells her she's just another nobody, or worse, an enemy, and that she should not mistake his gesture for concern! It stings her, and she hurts him back - but how beautiful is the irony of their bond? While in the usual world, trust is fragile, the easy component of a bond to shake and break - between GK, it is doubt and distrust that is so easy to sway! Their trust has stood not just the test of time, but even the brunt of their own, conscious wariness, and come through. The 'logical' distrust on the other hand finds itself challenged time and again instead!


The bit to follow is awe-freak-somely plain C.U.T.E. ☺️ How many people thought Kesar was going to rummage through the wardrobe and find something interesting? *raises hand* I did, but honestly, I didn't have the time to be disappointed by the 'cliche' not happening - haww, did I just say that?! - because Kesar is keeping up his patronizing the precocious 3 year old Galool mode 😆 additionally, even more gentle now, aww! And how cute is Gulaal?! 😆 The way she peeks at Kesar setting up her medicine and water, and then closes her eyes reminds you of a little kid pretending to be asleep or just throwing a tantrum to avoid that awful cough syrup 😆 I LOVE LOVE LOVE (yes in bold!) Kesar's uth jaaa! in reaction to her antics 😆 [OMG I FREAKING LOVE THIS scene ❤️] Add the little nuances to this, Kesar promptly fixing the pillow behind her, telling her to open her mouth and getting the meds in place - its patronizing and adorable all at once. Gulaal giving in partly sheepish, partly (I'm so telling you) pleased, and partly just the mildly grumpy sick kid - aah my endless love for these two crazy people!!! 😍 Amazing little bit - undertones, sheer luvre ☺️ I swear it takes a butt head and a half on the part of each of them to be so blind to facts and take some many more months before the akal knocking into their heads happens! 😆

And sigh - we're not even half way through the scene, look at my essay... *te he*


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ps: Nur, I left an extra jar on our workdesk for you, after yous long exhausting session with the 5 batches, and gharwalo ki reprimand for staying up late 😆 Now you have all the motivation in the world to do the new one qu-ee-ckie, when I post the thread later today!




Yay! Cookies! *munches away happily*

Loved your write-up as always, Jzee👏👏...and loved the reversal of the 'aur tu' that you mentioned...brilliant point...there are endless threads that can be tied around when it comes to these two :-)

Looking forward to reading the rest of your write-up :-)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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reserved.. I'll be back for my rambles, need to get done with my papers first Btw I am Hiba and I recently watched Gulaal... Loved the show and i know i am very late but i really want to share my thoughts as well 😆 You made a wonderful post Jzee! Loved your take on their scenes, i am still catching up with most of them so yeah i might just be bugging this forum for some time.. hopefully that is if i dont get lazy 😆
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Originally posted by: SongsOf_Silence

reserved.. I'll be back for my rambles, need to get done with my papers first Btw I am Hiba and I recently watched Gulaal... Loved the show and i know i am very late but i really want to share my thoughts as well 😆 You made a wonderful post Jzee! Loved your take on their scenes, i am still catching up with most of them so yeah i might just be bugging this forum for some time.. hopefully that is if i dont get lazy 😆


Hey there Hiba *waves out*

You never have to worry about being 'late' as a Galoolian, because we're the timelessly hooked to this show kinda bunch out here 😆 Always glad to find yet another person who discovered the sheer brilliance of Gulaal on TV, however belatedly! Leme know if you need links to any threads, posts, creations of even episode vids. I went on a hiatus in the middle of uploading post leap GK scenes, but I did get quite a few of them done, say at least a third of the total, in case you wana check out just GK in HQ, here's the link to my channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/1122jzp


Feel free to come and gush about GK anytime ☺️

xx
JZee
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr


Hey there Hiba *waves out*

You never have to worry about being 'late' as a Galoolian, because we're the timelessly hooked to this show kinda bunch out here 😆 Always glad to find yet another person who discovered the sheer brilliance of Gulaal on TV, however belatedly! Leme know if you need links to any threads, posts, creations of even episode vids. I went on a hiatus in the middle of uploading post leap GK scenes, but I did get quite a few of them done, say at least a third of the total, in case you wana check out just GK in HQ, here's the link to my channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/1122jzp


Feel free to come and gush about GK anytime ☺️

xx
JZee


awww thank you for such a warm welcome!! *waves back* @being late: haha then i am very glad for that.. I was feeling a little awkward in coming here and making posts because i didnt know anyone and i also had this thoguht that everybody here must have discussed GK to their heart's content and i wouldnt be bringing anything new 😆 But if you guys are still here then I think i can post one thing or the other...

@links: oh yes one thing i really want to do is to read discussions and takes on a number of scenes that had me drooling over these two 😆 I am dying to read the lengthy dissection of scenes like "meri pareshani tu hai" ☺️ GK's confrontation before the deyervattu i.e 4th july, Kesar's confession 😍 the very hot dilemma of Kesar before his marriage to Talli.. their confrontation on 18th & 19th july... Gah its a long list! i want to read everything and I want to write alottt!! *shifts impatiently in her chair* blast these papers! *annoyed muh* I actually came across this show because of Maz whose a friend of my sister.. she recomended this show and when i came to know the story I was really intrigued... watched a few scenes and vms and i was hooked 😆 I cant tell you how awfully happy i am to come across this brilliant show! Everything about it, the actors, the script, the direction, cinematography, everything is simply flawless man! I think its the first or maybe one of the few indian shows that actually has a well scripted story line other those typical ones out there.. I still have to catch up with pre-leap scenes of GK though I was too much impatient to watch Niel and Mansi so i watched the pre leap epi's in a short summary that was posted by Geesha and read written updates from the point of young kesar and gulaal deyarvattu to grasp the point of their relationship.. I did watch some important scenes of them but i still want to fully understand the essence of GK pre leap so i am planning to watch the show all over again once i am free of my papers *rubs hands gleefully* 😆 and thanks alot for the link of your channel yaar but i am already a subscriber 😛😆 I am a frequent stalker of your channel actually because i wanted to watch the scenes again and download a few of them and you had most of 'em 😆 oh and you make fabulous vms.. the instrumental of KHNK and dil se and Jaane tu ya jaane na was epic man 😍 a brilliant job!! 👏 also Maz had told my sister about your analysis's so i was looking forward to reading them.. and i'll shut up now, have rambled so much😆.. will be back soon! 😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^^ caught up with some work for a bit, will PM you some links during my lunch break Hiba...

And Maz is a fellow phankaa, a regular and keen analyzer on most posts herself... you've come through a very diligent recommendation
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

^^ caught up with some work for a bit, will PM you some links during my lunch break Hiba...


And Maz is a fellow phankaa, a regular and keen analyzer on most posts herself... you've come through a very diligent recommendation


oh sure no problem take your time! haha i know, her recommendations are always good and yes Zainu di also tipped me about you when i was talking to her about Gulaal.. she was the one to tell me to visit Nureat's gallery if i wanted some good avi's of these two.. i am a friend of hers actually and now i hope i am not creeping you out with how much i know 🤣

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