Behind,& Beyond Those Smiles![CapsPg1,2(Nur)]

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Peeps!!! Wasn't that episode so wholesome, awesome, freaksome much?! 😍 The title comes from how much double meaning dialog the episode had. How much meaning there was behind a majority of the smiles today. And how beyond the smile, other characters are doomed to the dark.

Dark Dilemma

They covered Raman and Dushyant (finally throwing light on what Raman has been upto 😡) I really like they bring out Dushyant's brotherly side. When he first catches sight of his vulnerable brother being threatened like that - all Dushyant can think of is standing up for, and goes and does exactly that - something Raman can neither appreciate, nor understand much less reciprocate - ever! 😡 Again, when those people bad mouth Raman he's all defensive, the moment he realizes the deep soup his brother is in, its like role reversal and like Dushyant was always the elder sibling looking out for his younger Raman, the kind of elder who would be pained by his junior letting him down... somewhere I think - this is how Vasant and Dushyant were. Where Vasant was what Dushyant is now, and Dushyant was what Raman is... karma sure hits back! Again... When he is back in his room - my heart went out to Dushyant. His dilemma. His conflict between standing up for what is right, or what is blood. For the first time, he was the loneliest person in that big house, with too much too tackle, none his own mess (not until Durgesh steps in, if, anyway!) and not a soul to confide in. It made me want more than ever, for Dushyant and Kesar to bond - if only briefly, before the Vasant showdown and whatever that climax brings us in its wake. I truly think the brothers in this house have never had a chance to be mature fraternity for each other. Vasant and Kesar were thick - but Kesar was only a child then. Watching Kesar and Dushyant now would be like watching a glimpse of what this house has never seen!

Ludo!!!

Moving on. To the Ludo scene of course! Well scripted, entertaining, and so GK! When he tells her he forgot about their sleeping arrangement I had to pause for a bit and look around for my jaw that had fallen and was rolling around the floor. I was like - did you really?! Then again, the comparison of his having forgotten, vs Gulaal actually making the elaborate arrangements for sleeping separately in the same room - was so indicative of what we've established for a while now. Kesar is beyond his turmoil and transition. He's settled in the phase where he's likely to be all his life - as long he's the one responsible for it! Gulaal on the other hand is the one undergoing the change now. The way she's stunned by his touch, jumps at being caught in his trance, or remains painfully alert of sleeping arrangements and awkwardness much - screams of how its playing on her mind 24/7 even if only in one secluded corner of her head! Ever since her revelation at Kesar's showdown, she has certainly stopped treating him with suspicion, but it has not made her any less aware of his presence or love - only ever more! And so, in a way, something as subtle as Gulaal remembering and Kesar forgetting, is just right. Of course Kesar can tell the tense air is back. But he's had his night of being bewildered into inactivity, and today he gears up to fix the matter. First, he takes over the floor - and cracks his classic Kesar joke to begin ebbing away at the kinks. It works, Gulaal laughs, and gives in - and that is another chance proof of their 'equal status'. I can't imagine Gulaal letting any damn other person get their way about sleeping on the floor while she gets the bed. But with Kesar, it's okay! Not because he's younger - because if this was Kesar the child that she was guarding over, he would be forced into the bed, no matter what - but this Kesar is an equal! Special mention to Kesar's joke - about having to miss the pillow, hit the floor, wake up 2-3 times, before his sleep feels satisfying - yeh right Kesar. And what exactly are you dreaming about to 'fidget' so much in your sleep?! ☺️ He's so cute! 😆 When they each hit their own sack - he's looking over at her, cause he knows her - and has to but ask if she's going to pull off the night sitting straight 😆 Even when she relents and pulls over the duvet, he knows its all futile. And so goes off his Eureka bulb and he remembers Ludo. I like how you say this one Reemz, about Kesar knowing the best way to draw Gulaal into a plan is to challenge her! 😆 Heck, he's seen that first hand in the hopscotch time and gotten his share of shock over it, hasn't he?! It's pretty Kesar again, the way he tells her he needs to beat her at it a few times to get tassalli! 🤣 Their little dialog, behind the facade of Talli's pretext, is all about them. Gulaal is echoing her subconscious worry as Talli's. Kesar is offering his personal experience on the platter as advice! And no, neither of them is trying to intend the pun. They're just naturally good at talking in double meanings. 😆

Miracle Much?!

Onto Talli and Gulaal - yes yes yes, a must discuss scene because Gulaal has finally hit a home run - her first in like one entire lifetime! As I said in the EDT, when I saw her to be the one snooping on Talli's personal misery (oh can she stop getting FB's of that nightmarish sagai with Kesar btw! Kills time, and kills the mood 🤢 ) I nearly walked off to hit my head into a wall assuming Gulaal was going to revert back to her, see I told you Talli was hastening mode with Kesar! But no. For once in her life, Gulaal does what she has done best in the past. She sits with Talli, consoles her, and offers her genuinely good advice - not just well meant, but correct in content! One of those documenting moments of the show - will Gulaal talking so much sense of moving on, with the one that loves you, and not the one you're trying to old back in vain! Like everyone else, it was my big whoaa moment! And then it had me thinking, of how much Kesar had changed this woman - or let's say, revived her old self. She was no longer the wallow in a problem and dwell in a limbo person. The woman who less than 2 weeks ago could not imagine how Talli or anyone could move on just like that, was assuring Talli now that this was right and she should go for it. Give her happiness a chance! Without realizing it, being happy has done this for Gulaal - make her seek it out, look for it and claim it as her own all over again. She's progressing on that path slowly, even obliviously - and she's telling Talli to do it! For all the Talli-ism I had to bear, Gulaal's big leap of faith was worth it! Just a little skeptical about Talli's expression in Gulaal's hug - but she's been inexplicably stoic these few days - so benefit of doubt to her.

Transition Continues...

Finally - to the Jay Parvati vrat. Nothing to say about the scene as such except send a virtual hug SD's way to continue being the lovely lovely much needed cupid - but the PRECAP was it! Yes, she's probably not just going to shock us with something like I am doing the vrat because a wife does it for her husband and I'm your wife after all - with elemental Galool still lurking inside her, she will pull some blinds of elaboration on why doing the vrat is not her majburi ...But that's immaterial! I honestly think this will not be like Vat Savitri time - when she pushed the entire credit to PB. She may name SD but if that was all, then it would be 'majburi' as Kesar calls it ... no, Gulaal is probably going to pull only half wool over Kesar's eyes and come up with something more of a reason - and whatever that is, I'm positive it is a forward in the GK movement, not backward! For now - Kesar's expression at her telling him it's not majburi is worthy of a day's speculations!
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Thankfully Kunal is go went gone to city and we wont get anymore Kulli [oh I didn't mention their scene, cause well... there was nothing to it, except the ending with Kesar walking in 😍 and then I was just concentrating on how good he was looking 😆 so no analysis! ] I personally think the Raman Dushyant angle is going to be more Dushyant after today - so relief at that too! Plus, the precap being GK is such a relief. Whatever with GK - irrespective!
Only one disappointment. Not the greatest, but I'm really intrigued by GK's surprise plan just vanishing into the thin air. Very unlike the CVs - whatever the talks of ending show maybe - and I think I'm just going to end up telling myself it's a consequence of Mansi's injury... she didn't get to shoot together with the unit - and just maybe, if this was to be a dance, the injury didn't allow her... but oh well. that's a mysteriously closed chapter now - sadly.

Do chip in your comments/opinions/interpretations/debates!

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JZee
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Lovely post as always, Jzee!

Re: Ludo scene, I'm just going to copy/paste what I just said in Reemz's thread:

[quote]I loved the subtlety of the scene overall...since the moment he entered the room, all Kesar did was try to lighten up the situation in anyway he could cuz he could sense Gulaal's awkwardness...whether conscious or subconscious throughout...so first he insists that HE will sleep on the floor...and then makes the joke about how he can't sleep unless it's on a hard floor and he's woken up 3-4 times in the middle of the night😆...very veryyy sweet bit and I loved Gulaal's smile/laugh in reply...when she said, 'Main tujhse behes mein jeet nahin sakti", I was like SO TRUE...but that goes both ways...ek sher toh doosra savaa sher...dono ek dusre se aage hain is department mein😆

I loved how naturally they portrayed Gulaal's continuing awkwardness by showing that she was still unable to sleep and just wanted to keep sitting there😆...and she only lies down after Kesar asks her if she's just going to keep sitting like that😆...even then she curls up into this defensive little ball as if trying to shrink into invisibility?😆

I loved that Kesar picked up on all this without her saying a word and knew JUST the thing to snap her out of it...cuz yes indeed Galool the great is ALWAYS up for a CHALLENGE😆...her entire persona transforms the MOMENT you CHALLENGE her...I find it so amusing and endearing😆

Someone pointed this out in the EDT and I realized it while watching the scene too...the colors they chose for their ludo pieces...Kesar instantly jumping on the RED...i.e. Gulaal😛😆...and Gulaal picking yellow...saffron...Kesar😆[/quote]

I loved the hitting bit also...so brief but sooo adorable😆...I wanna make an avi on that...

Moving on to the rest...I also liked Dushyant's bits...but somewhere I get this heavy feeling in my heart watching him cuz I don't want to see this character, this actor leaving the show *sigh*...anyways focussing on the epi...Dushyant's bits were well shown today...I just am so sick of Raman otherwise...*sigh*

The Talli-Gulaal scene was symbolic more towards Gulaal obviously even though she doesn't realize what she said to Talli applies to herself far more...however I was saying this in the EDT and I'll say it again...I don't want Gulaal to fall for Kesar on this reasoning that He loves her so much, does so much for her so she should find happiness with him...that sounds too much like a compromise...what makes K and G unique from any other story previously of a "second chance at love" or a widow remarriage/second marriage kind of storylines is their HISTORY...which began even before she married Vasant! I want them to give a nod to that history as they evolve Gulaal's feelings...G and K are NOT Kunal and Talli...it's NOT the same situation even though what Gulaal said to Talli is deffo something she herself should think about too.


Finally the SF scene and all this vrat business...honestly I kinda cringe each time she brings up the baby talk...but anyways...I hope this vrat bit is handled well and not made melodramatic or anything...the GK-ness to it should remain intact...the precap was deffo the most interesting bit of all this...Kesar being Kesar as always but Gulaal is now coming up with new excuses...lol


Re: the surprise that never materialized *sigh* yeah I guess we have to live with it...this is a rare occasion when they haven't tied up something in the storyline once it's mentioned...
Edited by nureat01 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I missed the first 10mins.Maybe God intended me to watch from GK's scene 🤣 But the scene after that with Dushyant sitting in solitude made me feel really sad :( We all agree what he did was wrong with Vasant (or do we?! :P) but that burden he's lived with for 10 years really makes me feel for him and now his bloody rogue brother is up to no good.

[quote]However I was saying this in the EDT and I'll say it again...I don't want Gulaal to fall for Kesar on this reasoning that He loves her so much, does so much for her so she should find happiness with him...that sounds too much like a compromise...what makes K and G unique from any other story previously of a "second chance at love" or a widow remarriage/second marriage kind of storylines is their HISTORY...which began even before she married Vasant! I want them to give a nod to tha/qt history as they evolve Gulaal's feelings...G and K are NOT Kunal and Talli...it's NOT the same situation even though what Gulaal said to Talli is deffo something she herself should think about too.[/quote]


Agree Nur!! Which is why later I was glad that talli didn't make it about GK because that would have made Gulaal think about her own relationship but as you said GK are different and it's not about Gulaal settling with Kesar, it's about how they have always been made for each other. They are supposed to be soulmates so yeh I was glad that Talli didn't tell G to listen to her own advice :)


Jzee, as I said before your threads always turn out to be the most interesting conversation pieces so I'll come back when more of us are here ;) You know how I felt about the 'Ludo scene' ! GREAT topic!
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

Lovely post as always, Jzee!

[Replied to you on Reemz thread too!]

But coming to the vrat matter - i honestly think she's going to pull off some funda like I can obviously, and don't mind fasting for your long life and happiness. In a way - she can only be suhagan, if her hubby lives - so long life... and happy married life, lol if she's praying for Kesar's happiness, it can only be with her 😆 So I think she will say something along those lines, and not just give him SD's excuse. Because honestly, I have always thought it very encouraging, that when she kept the vatt savitri vrat for her 'husband' - she may not have kept it for Kesar in that sense, but when she does pray, she asks for his well being, for his better sense and lesser impulse and anger. That is the thing about Gulaal - even if she is compelled into a ritual, she wont do anything to ruin the sanctity of it! And if she admits even so far to Kesar, I think its huge. Coming from her, as a confession for Kesar. I think the boy can go hit the happy hour at Talsagra bar after 😆


Moving on to the rest...I also liked Dushyant's bits...but somewhere I get this heavy feeling in my heart watching him cuz I don't want to see this character, this actor leaving the show *sigh*...anyways focussing on the epi...Dushyant's bits were well shown today...I just am so sick of Raman otherwise...*sigh*


I've made myself not think about it for now. If the show is ending, Dushyant has to go with it. I don't think he'll pack of with 5 days to go or something, or even the CVs themselves packing up his track... He's not Talli really, his role runs deeper! But basically, I hope his character meets a deserving end, whenever. Raman is a freak, but I think the D-R scenes will be more about D here on.

The Talli-Gulaal scene was symbolic more towards Gulaal obviously even though she doesn't realize what she said to Talli applies to herself far more...however I was saying this in the EDT and I'll say it again...I don't want Gulaal to fall for Kesar on this reasoning that He loves her so much, does so much for her so she should find happiness with him...that sounds too much like a compromise...what makes K and G unique from any other story previously of a "second chance at love" or a widow remarriage/second marriage kind of storylines is their HISTORY...which began even before she married Vasant! I want them to give a nod to that history as they evolve Gulaal's feelings...G and K are NOT Kunal and Talli...it's NOT the same situation even though what Gulaal said to Talli is deffo something she herself should think about too.

Nur, it's what I once said, remember? About Gulaal realizing that her need of Kesar is not a newfound concept, It hasn't found its inception in his brand new mature complying and sensible Kesar who knows her, reads her, and does everything under the sun and moon for her happiness. Her need of him goes long long back - and the point of that realization hitting Gulaal will put her case away from Talli and Kunal. She will realize, that even if for a moment she was supposed to put Kunal and Kesar on the same scale - she and Talli never were the same case. Talli needs Kunal to drive Kesar out of her mind, and give her a brand new start. Kesar has been a part of Gulaal life, aims, and big picture from before Vasant was gone. Their dynamics is different. Tom, even if she had to fall in love and settle with a whole different person - hypothetically speaking - what Kesar is in her life, cannot be replaced, she would still need him to fill in that spot! But still, what she tells Talli does apply to herself. Like you I don't want her to get with Kesar because he loves her and because he will go to any extent for her but hat will certainly serve as a big first step to her understanding of how much she reciprocates that feeling. Of how far she would go for Kesar's sake - which is not Talli's truth for Kunal, at least for now. It sets Gulaal and Talli apart, and I think Gulaal will see it as a fact. Because honestly, I can't imagine Gulaal just giving in to this DV and staying back because she realizes Kesar will keep her happy - lol! That is too selfish an approach for Gulaal to follow 😆 She will eventually come to the conclusion that their mutual need for each other is what should hold her back... like it always has.


Finally the SF scene and all this vrat business...honestly I kinda cringe each time she brings up the baby talk...but anyways...I hope this vrat bit is handled well and not made melodramatic or anything...the GK-ness to it should remain intact...the precap was deffo the most interesting bit of all this...Kesar being Kesar as always but Gulaal is now coming up with new excuses...lol


Re: the surprise that never materialized *sigh* yeah I guess we have to live with it...this is a rare occasion when they haven't tied up something in the storyline once it's mentioned...

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Hey !!!!!Too bad yaar, someone credit me for the game that I anticipated and predicted. Toh kya hua if it became Ludo instead of Snakes and Ladders .
Oho...Btw, do I have to say???
Of course thanks to JZee for such a beautiful analysis.
Edited by MeySimi - 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I missed the first 10mins.Maybe God intended me to watch from GK's scene 🤣

*raises an eye* Really Reemz?! That was innocently coincidental?! 😆

But the scene after that with Dushyant sitting in solitude made me feel really sad :( We all agree what he did was wrong with Vasant (or do we?! :P)
🤣 Not really. We neither feel mad at him to keeel Vasant, nor to lust after Gulaal! Imagine if Dushyant had been the saint he is right now, and Vasant died of natural cause - G/D would actually have that damn DV, and live like 'friends' all their life. Sigh.

Now we have action *pulls up sleeves enthusiastically*

But yeh, like I said all other places, that scene made my heart go out to him. He's grown like this awesome second lead in the show over the time, and I really like his character - not to mention absolutely crazily admire the actor from a decade ago when I saw him in that random movie December 16 - and that scene was so well enacted. All about his expression - not a word spoken, except some FB echoes... and the impact! 👏

but that burden he's lived with for 10 years really makes me feel for him and now his bloody rogue brother is up to no good.

[quote]However I was saying this in the EDT and I'll say it again...I don't want Gulaal to fall for Kesar on this reasoning that He loves her so much, does so much for her so she should find happiness with him...that sounds too much like a compromise...what makes K and G unique from any other story previously of a "second chance at love" or a widow remarriage/second marriage kind of storylines is their HISTORY...which began even before she married Vasant! I want them to give a nod to tha/qt history as they evolve Gulaal's feelings...G and K are NOT Kunal and Talli...it's NOT the same situation even though what Gulaal said to Talli is deffo something she herself should think about too.[/quote]


Agree Nur!! Which is why later I was glad that talli didn't make it about GK because that would have made Gulaal think about her own relationship but as you said GK are different and it's not about Gulaal settling with Kesar, it's about how they have always been made for each other. They are supposed to be soulmates so yeh I was glad that Talli didn't tell G to listen to her own advice :)

@bold - oooh! I didn't think of that! I almost did want Talli to say it to Gulaal, but you have a point, then Gulaal's line of thought would be obvious! But like I said elsewhere, I doubt Gulaal will ever settle with Kesar just because she realizes he makes her happy. That is too selfish for Gulaal's POV. She's probably going to realize, he makes her happy, just like she does... and it makes the whole family happy - and that's why she needs to settle with him


Jzee, as I said before your threads always turn out to be the most interesting conversation pieces

... because all of you come jump into the discussion! I'm going to miss this place so much when the show ends 😒
so I'll come back when more of us are here ;) You know how I felt about the 'Ludo scene' ! GREAT topic!


I'll be back in a while too - still got reading... it never ends, like Gulaal's worries... which reminds me - I love when Kesar tells her that! That she makes a habit out of worrying 🤣 Someone had to tell her she's a freak, even if not in those words! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: MeySimi

Hey !!!!!Too bad yaar, someone credit me for the game that I anticipated and predicted. Toh kya hua if it became Ludo instead of Snakes and Ladders .

Oho...Btw, do I have to say???
Of course thanks to JZee for such a beautiful analysis.


Dude!!! Ganga!! go read my first comment on the EDT today - I said that! That I hope you go on that thread and read it, that you were SO BANG ON! lol! Forgot to mention it here again! But I did there - go and seee! *pulls her along the corridor from one thread to the next like Kesar* 😆

Ps: Just saw your thread - but I'll be back to comment in a while! Glad to have you back and active - any game predictions for tomorrow?! *looks hopeful*

*edit*

Edited by JZephyr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Time for CAPS *grins*

Kesar's "I mean BUSINESS, Gulaal" face😆



Gulaal's "Kyaaa yaar" face


Kesar's joke about how he can't sleep aaram se unless on the floor...lol


And finally he manages to bring a smile on the lady's face :-)







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Posted: 14 years ago
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Here I'm all happy shappy and you had to mention about the show...! Abhi toh aisa mat bol :(

LOL I was actually planning to not watch the episode live because I thought me watching it jinxed the amount of GK goodies but then I couldn't control myself =))

[quote]I'll be back in a while too - still got reading... it never ends, like Gulaal's worries... which reminds me - I love when Kesar tells her that! That she makes a habit out of worrying 🤣 Someone had to tell her she's a freak, even if not in those words! 😆
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I loved that too! At least she won't take every matter so seriously. Take a chill pill Galool!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Good, episode, with good analysis jzee!!😊Gulaal has careen herself towards kesar hasnt she..?😉 I loved how ths slow developements working amazingly...all this Gk scenes together is a portent for me to believe what has written in their future.. a beautiful journey all together with the person who loves you like nothing is around in the world exceptyou..😍 Although i wasnt expecting a paucity moment between gulaal and kesar when they were in their room...i knew they would only talk about talli and would leave the scene all empty🤢
but that's ok,as long as they are cool with each other, what else would i want.. except some wonderful, cute awkwardness between the two.
Dushyant has really proved himself to be a good, protected human being, i reallly have admired him alot through out the past... he is willing to risk his life for that stupid raman... still his mystery is unrevealed of why he got so much money from those gundas...? i dont know much about what's going to hapen to dusyant, but i really dont want his character to end that fast, actually i dont want any character to end that fast.. this makes the story to hold more strongly for itself...so i will leave my predictions untell...
My mom has introduced that serial to my aaaunt as well and she was mentioning this news about serial gulaal. She was saying that she saw in some news paper that how this serial has become so good, slowly after the leap. And i was soo happy to hear that, and i was asking whether she knows in what news paper she saw that news, but she didnt remember.All she said was how good this serial has become.. an di was thinking how these rumors have become so unbearable for me.. i mean seriously i still dont beleive that its going to end soon... i was glad that i had a chance to hear that news... this serial has alot of respect from me.. wonderful serial soo far in star plus...😊
About precap, it was amazing, i loved how gulaal is now showing some of her own wish rather than just hiding herself in the mask!!! looking forward to that...
That's all from me!!!!😃
Mano( anum)
Edited by Manoshono - 14 years ago

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