15th June - Tera Mera Rishta Purana (Kes-Gul)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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FIRSTLY SORRY FOR THE LONG LONG LONG POST

Writing this bit before seeing the episode (as i didnt want to start a new thread but since i am connecting to the episode might as well put it here) (as i felt it needed to see what exactly Kesar is saying, its not just about Kesar coming out and accepting Gulaal as his wife and so on - but more then that, you know it similarly reminds me of the deeyarvatu episode and Gulaal doing what she did and also standing up and raising questions to all of them, coz it just wasnt about accepting deeyarvatu, it was more as well esp as Gulaal asked all of them and raised certain questions and what she did and why she did it as well)

Ok, lets put aside at this stage that Kesar loves Gulaal, we all know he does - but lets take that away from what is happening right now in the actual wedding, what he is saying (because i also i feel that somewhat Kesar's love/core of his existense is being put aside as to what questions he is raising and the what the episode is trying to show and will show...)

And lets see the questions that he will raise judging by what we saw at the end, in the precap and in today's SBS, Kesar is indeed raising questions and also his own feeling in the 'wife' word for him (am i not saying he accepts her as his wife, but there is alot more then that happening here)

Gulaal is his wife, they did an ritual 10 yrs back, they are bound together whether anyone believes in it or not, but the truth is the ritual still stands and by that she is wife and what he questions at the end, by ritual doesnt that mean he has to stay faithful to Gulaal, his first wife - his only wife as of now. The precap question which i will say goes out to all of them not just Gulaal - imagine yourself in his place, can it be that easy to forget that she is his wife, can it be that easy for them to forget the ritual that happened, that she bound herself to him, and that he has grown up feeling she is wife

If we all go back and look that one thing Kesar has been straightforward about is his feeling that she is his wife - maybe not calling her that outrightly, but feeling it, the way he wants exclusiveness from her, importance from her, be a part of his life, the right she has over him and the right he has over her. Now now importantly what he realised during the pheras, that all the vows he feels is for Gulaal, he wants to do them for Gulaal and in a way has done i guess

(And that was the reason i said lets take away the love bit from Kesar's pov away, coz i dont think it has fully installed in him that he is in love with her - even if the promo that has come out sees him tell her, i am pretty sure that it will be different to how it will be in the episodes coming, he needs to realise it first and at a point tell)

At this point esp after the lakeside confrontation, which i think answered some of Kesar's doubts and question esp is that there is nothing between Gulaal and D, as she was appalled to even see that he could think that and say it and it hurted her, and then what hurted even further is him saying he has no faith/trust in her (it doesnt matter that she doesnt show it entirely in anger or somewhat, she keeps it inside and carries on with her daily/routine life and thats how she's lived and concealed some of herself inside her (just go back and watch the D and Gulaal convo, and she lets you know how she has lived, infact learnt to live like this - i believe she understands Kesar to a point but its hard to just be there for him and how he is half of the time, coz alot has happened), and said not to doubt on her and what confirmed it even more is what Gulaal said the only person who has a right on him and ever did was Vasant. Which also made him question her, doesnt he have a right over her... which we know in anger Gulaal said no.

As we saw SBS, Kesar also questions that if he and Gulaal werent bounded together in ritual then what really has been Kesar-Gulaal's relation, (we all know what Kes-Gul are to one another not in terms of hubby/wifey but beyond that and the bond they have, that you can define, the emotional bond that is so deep and so connected, that i dont think even they realise how deep it is) so imagine ourselves part of the wedding guests or the family members and see what Kesar is saying, what exact answer can we give to that question he asks, there is only one answer 'that Kesar and Gulaal's relation was of hubby/wifey' even if they didnt or no one believed in it, as i said before during the deeyarvatu as well, that to the world and village ppl, Kesar-Gulaal's identity to them is Husband-Wife, but to each other they are Kesar-Gulaal and only they know the feeling and bond of what they mean to each other.

Consequences of what has happened and will happen today, will have to be dealt with and Gulaal again at a crossroads and the impact of what Kesar is saying and how he has viewed her and this relation as such (its not just about Gulaal understanding/accepting Kesar but other things as well, and even more herself along this junction of her life and so on as times goes along), is again at the deeyarvatu stage, a challenge that has come back again - something we all know she had to face 10 yrs ago when it was bestowed on her (and from what i know it was by JK) what will MB say and PB say, other members of the family and so on... and not only that Talli and her well-being, it doesnt matter what we all think of her the fact of the matter is she is there and she is important to Gulaal and they are close, and the family esp now judging by what has happened, and also at this stage to her in the middle of her wedding.. so in a way i think we can imagine her hurt and so on... i do have empathy for that, i think Empathy is the right word for every character in this show, to feel their pov and feelings .

For Gulaal its gonna be long journey in seeing herself or feeling more for Kesar (for Kesar is somewhat comes easy in how he sees Gulaal and so on and accepting her), but i dont want to get ahead of myself but maybe this junction is about this phase as times goes by...

MY ANALYSIS IS ON THE NEXT POST 😊



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ok, now my analysis after the episode, so what i said above - i dont knowif they migthbe any difference or not after seeing the episode

"In the end I wanna be standing at the beginning with you"
Was Kesar right today in what he did and said, the questions he arised up, the vachan he couldnt take - i think the answer is somewhat Yes, he is right in asking all he did and what he said... but later on he is still somewhat fighting within himself what he did what he did...
Is Gulaal wrong in doing what she did back then, given the situation it was, and as she said her god above knows what she did and why, and she had no malice or her intentions were bad - i think the answer is No, i still stand by what she did and i think if she had to do it all again she would do it the same given what the situation and odds were stacked up against her, and when you see the scene with JK coming to taunt her, you again feel sure that her decision back then was the right choice, despite what JK thinks now and what she think Gulaal has done to Dushyant, JK has no idea the amount of tears Gulaal has cried and also knowing the truth of D and what he did, and like she said to D few weeks back she has learnt to live with the truth concealed inside of her despite never forgiving and never will...
I hand it to Kesar today, coz he said what needed to be said from his pov to address all of them there even Gulaal (but we know in Gulaal's mind alot was going back then) - i feel i want to explain all he said but what he said is there for us all to hear and feel it as well
Like he says on one hand ppl keep saying and indicating he is married, they are patni pati, and do rituals together and so on and on the other hand ppl say they dont believe in it, he should marry Talli
As he said his feet are tied by shackles when he stepped into Vasant's shoes at the deeyarvatu... one minute think this and other minute think something else
That deeyarvatu is one part of his life, that he has grown up with it and that is also due to his bond with Gulaal, and how his world depended on her as well.
One line said it all i guess, who can answer it honestly for him - if there is no deeyarvatu and she is not his wife - then what is the relation between Kesar-Gulaal? can anybody give him an honest answer today what does it stand as, she cant even be considered Vasant's widow coz that overshadowed coz she got married again... despite in her heart she knows and feels she is Vasant's and Vasant's widow - but her identity is of a married woman
Gulaal's truth, Gulaal's lies, Gulaal's decisions,. Gulaal's intentions - Kesar spoke upon, i have to say it was from his pov, right to be called upon esp now today we get to this point after everything Kesar is said - she still feels the need to have her decisions out there
Poor Talli, it felt like Kesar was dragging her from the mandap and then Paanbha pulling him towards her, and Talli dragging along, i have to say it needed for Talli to release the gantbandhan to release herself and Kesar from it, its significant, even thought we did see a scene of Gulaal stopping Kesar when he was going to take it off him, initially it had to be done by Talli, and the moment came when he said this deeyarvatu cant break
I think in a way Gulaal is right to take this to the sarpanch, as she wants a decision on it to break it, but as we saw Kesar doesnt want that and his mind is not gonna stop thinking what he has and felt what is has... what will it be now that both are saying the opposites
What makes it even more mixed up is that D is the head of the village and it rests on his hands
Again we see Kesar in turmoil after Motabha questions on what he did, and why he did it, and who is he punishing, and his next few steps he takes has to be done with responsibility and so much thinking coz not only will it affect him but all of them
What Motabha was telling Kesar, it reminded that he said something quite similar to Gulaal after he found out the deeyarvatu happened and questioned what will happen in the future, and what he one decision will do - he was right in his pov, even Gulaal knew that but her mind was dwelled with what the situation was at that time and what she found about D as well...
Kesar in a way answered his own question i guess in a way, when he thought about Gulaal saying i want to free you from this deeyarvatu... (and all the flashbacks of he had which saw love in Kesar's eyes for Gulaal) - does he want that, has it really messed up his mind, has it really felt like his feet were tied in shackles, has she really made him feel like he was forced in a way that this relation had become a burden... (ok the decision of deeyarvatu was forced but did it feel like forcing if he looks back now and what he feels for her now...
Because when one falls in love, it is of their free will - and it just happens and this is another part of Kesar that we saw hasnt fully realized it yet and got it, he is again cut half by wanting to hate her and not wanting to seperate from her... he cant seem to understand what it is
And then Motabha's little talk with him again puts him a dilemma and tries to ask himself what it is, and why is he doing this... deep down its coz he loves Gulaal thats why he is so messed up right now, and i think thats the main point - his scene before with the flashbacks and Motabha questioning him and him thinking about it, is what is messed up in his head... and no i dont think its entirely the deeyarvatu and so on esp at this point in what is going in his mind
I dont think the makers can have Kesar mind fully messed up just coz of the deeyarvatu and somewhat blame it on that entirely, that why i say is his whole messed up head is what he feels for Gulaal and the feelings that emerge from him, his whole being that cant be seperating from him, and his whole existance is her... and the things he does and feel for her are somewhat like a husband (esp if we go back to what Poonambha said to Gulaal that his behaviour is like a hubby's, and all the things Kesar has done till now for and towards Gulaal as well, buying a gift, wanting importance from her, looking after her, compliementing her, getting lost in her, looking at her with so much love, seeking her out and asking her that she is his pareshani and why their worlds are apart, fighting those guys and beat the crap out of them, the chunar he brought for her and saw it on Talli), all those things that happened can we really say all blame goes on deeyarvatu and his mind, coz we all know and can why he battles with himself and that is due to being in love with her which he hasnt realized or got the meaning of...

The coin is his truth and lie, he depends on that but i think back on what Gulaal said to him in their first scene when he came back, that feelings and emotions dont depend on a toss of the coin, and what did his coin lend on, i am predicting the truth which is his fear of seperating from her

And what a timing for Raman to come and mess with his head even more, again some doubt put on Gulaal and D, and the relation and that D is the sarpanch so he will favour Gulaal and so on, but if D thinks about what he told Kesar in the bus about Gulaal and how in a way Kesar is her support ' i mean D has to see somehow that, above eveything has happened esp if Kesar makes his intention clear, his decision and how he sees the deeyarvatu with Gulaal as well

Dont you wish Paanbha would of been there, she would of been somewhat settled with seeing that no marriage had happened as she still believe in this deeyarvatu and wants it and sees Kesar-Gulaal relation

Tomrrow it seems like the decision will be made by the sarpanch or more so Gulaal, and maybe the next realizaion Kesar might have is that he is love with her and thats why he acts the way he does most of the time

Also after MB's chat, seeing as MB did ask him does he want a wifey/hubby relation with Gulaal, a big question, i dont think he has ever asked that himself to himself ' i find its time now Kesar's journey to find himself and himself is the one tied to Gulaal not by her and the deeyarvatu but also his whole being

I leave this song lyric for Kesar, coz i think it sums it up
Tera Yakeen Kyun Maine Kiya Nahin Tujhse Raha Kyun Juda
Mujh Pe Yeh Zindagi Karti Rahi Sitam Tune Hi Di Hai Panaah
Hai Kya Tadap Hai Yeh Kaisi Sazaa Tu Kyun Mujhe Aaj Yaad Aa Gaya

Bechain Din Mere Bechain Raat Hai Kya Main Karoon Kuchh Bata

Hain Mere Paanv Hi Khud Meri Bediyaan Mujhse Mujhe Tu Chhuda
Tera Mera Rishta Puraana

Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Haila...very long my dear! :D

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sorry to barge in here, without reading what you've said until I watch the episode - anyone know the fastest uploader of Gulaal on youtube?! I hate to have to wait!!!
Edited by JZephyr - 14 years ago
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i think tomorrow, kesar will profess his love for gulaal, cos the coin's decision was maybe the fact that he loves her.. we saw it in that special episode wala promo... that will be his stand.. and i think D will support him...
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Sorry to barge in here, without reading what you've said until I watch the episode - anyone know the fastest uploader of Gulaal on youtube?! I hate to have to wait!!!



go watch it! 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i read your whole update .very nice.I am agree with you too that still kesar does not feel his feeling but after flip coin he got it that he likes her .
I loved today's episode except precap and discuss again this issue infront of everyone.What do you feel tomorrow episode .Do you think that G-K relation will break and sudha will force kesar to marry tali everyone.I have a feeling that G-K relation will break but their new jouney will start where both will understand each other and fell love on .Lets see .
But cts should give Talli some brain .I am very upset why talli is so much.at least she should understand now.
cts r playing their TAM rating again😡.If this week tam ( next week will come ) increase its tam then later they will show G-K bonding.
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Very nice write up Lennie. Just like you I also don't think Gulaal did anything wrong in getting desperate and uncomfortable with the whole scenario and asked for Panchayat's intervention. She so knows that Kesar being so stubborn (having witnesses his demanding side first hand already) is not in a position to understand the reasons behind Deyarvattu (and its not that she is going to reveal why she did not accept Dushyant to him). And moreover she is just not able to deal with Kesar whether its his questions about Dushyant and her relationship, about Dushyant's involvement in Vasant's death or exerting his rights over her as a husband. And now, the situation is getting out of hand as she has started to realize that its not just affecting her anymore, its Talli who is also getting unnecessarily drawn in and its causing a problem to the whole family. Also, subconsciously she just CAN NOT think about anyone in Vasant's place. She knows that Kesar is not going to stop until some drastic step was taken from her side.

But little does she know that Kesar is very vulnerable at heart and is going to tell her in simple words that all he actually wants is to stay with her no matter what. And who knows if there are going to be surprises during the process of hearing in Panchayat or in Panchayat's decision!!! Lots and lots of possibilities are there. She is STILL trying to run away from him... while he's as desperately trying to hold on to her...aw how I feel for them!!!!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalini92

i think tomorrow, kesar will profess his love for gulaal, cos the coin's decision was maybe the fact that he loves her.. we saw it in that special episode wala promo... that will be his stand.. and i think D will support him...

I dont see him professing his loves just like that, then again wouldnt be surprised if he does lol
But i do think maybe some intentions of Kesar will become clear at this meeting thing, which i think wont break the deeyarvatu
Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lisasandra

i read your whole update .very nice.I am agree with you too that still kesar does not feel his feeling but after flip coin he got it that he likes her .

I loved today's episode except precap and discuss again this issue infront of everyone.What do you feel tomorrow episode .Do you think that G-K relation will break and sudha will force kesar to marry tali everyone.I have a feeling that G-K relation will break but their new jouney will start where both will understand each other and fell love on .Lets see .
But cts should give Talli some brain .I am very upset why talli is so much.at least she should understand now.
cts r playing their TAM rating again😡.If this week tam ( next week will come ) increase its tam then later they will show G-K bonding.

Thanks 😊
I dont think it will break only coz i think Kesar will get across some intentions he has, as for Gulaal what grounds can she break it, esp at this point and also Kesar is refusing to it, and if its for the betterment of the family she will not break it, it will be again an eyeopening episode tomorrow it has to be, that how the show works as a whole and questions they get across
Even if it breaks it still dont change Kesar's pov does it
Talli is upset, she has right to be upset in a way, but hopefully also understand

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