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Posted: 3 years ago

OK here is what I read from Virat's expressions. You cant forward any scene in CN to observe this behavior from Pakhi.



P1 is the Pakhi who is positive, changed and guilty. You can only see her little bit post leap episodes. With this Pakhi, Virat is distant, doesnt touch or let her touch him. He doesnt behave as friend also but someone who knows what she has done to THEM (SaiRat). He behaves as if he is just there as a friend, who will support her but no attachements. Evidence.

1. The entire Virat-Pakhi interaction after Vinu's arrival to CN from camp. When she enters the room while he changes, he is very cryptic. He doesnt even start a converstaion with her. He doesnt let her touch. Look how he takes away his hand when she hugs Vinu after Virat-Ashwini convo. But there P1 was already slipping into P2.

2. This Virat will not consiser Pakhi as. Vinu's mother. He doesnt inform anything about vinu to her because he is his child, ONLY. Not Pakhi's. The mera beta jaap comes from here. It naturally comes to him, to call Vinu as HIS son.

3. The true blue P2-P1 transition can be seen in blue dress interaction. It is very critical episode. You cant miss it. Pakhi is already slipping into P2 more from previous night. She is upset. When Virat enters the room, he asks her to take medicine. See how he interacts. He talks to her, more friendlier way. He says she takes Vinu's RESPONISIBILITY too. He gauges her reactions. She says when Vinu doesnt get attached to her like he does with Virat, she feels lonely. And look how Virat's expression changes when she says "Humara" bachcha and "mere" Pati. He knows she is milder version of P2. So he pacifies her by asking her to give some time to Vinu. Look how she changes after taking medicine. She talks about Vinu only like a care taker.

She herself reminds hiim about Savi and Sai. And she looks genuinely happy when Virat smiles at Savi's mention. But when Virat realizes she is in P1 mode, he doesnt talk to her much. That troubles her. She knows the reality. This is their equation. She is trying to come to terms with it.

3. One more P1 interaction happened recently. When Virat wakes up from unconsciousness, Pakhi was found sleeping. When she gets up, she is in P1 mode, rushes to get medicine. Is not insecure about Sai. When she comes back and helps to put buttons, he doesnt let her. She accepts. She moves away. Virat doesnt talk much to P1. She asks him to take medicine, he doesnt respond. This freaks her out and she becomes P2. Look at Virat's expressions changing to mild surprise when she says she neeeds to know whether he still has feelings for Sai. He scrutinizes her, with shock, that she is P2. She shows rights on him. she wants answers. P1 knows he loves Sai still. P2 is insecure. Once he knows that he is talking to P2, he answers her, assures her. Touches her. Lets her touch him. The next day he lets her help with buttons.

4. One more slight indication that he observes her and cheers her is when he says sorry about forgetting her birthday. Look how the camera pans on Pakhi's sad face for a second, he observes and then says sorry. She immediately becomes happy. The same scene happened in Vinu's room during Kankavli trip planning. The camera pans on her sad face, he observes and immediately thanks her for proposing Kankavli trip instead of going to Maldives.

5. Pakhi in her worst P2 form is seen in "Ajeeb" fight. Virat is totally shocked by her behavior. He cannot gauge her. He thinks she is P1 so says it is 'ajeeb' and 'ghalat'. Look at his expressions when she flips after ajeeb word. And look how angry he looks when she says they are pati-patni. That is the worst form of P2. Full of rights on him and hope that he will take it forward. Virat shuts off to this P2. He will not indulge her anymore. Next day though, he makes amends to bring her into happy space. He will not let her feel loney, or cause her 'taqleef'. If she is in that happy space, she operates better. She is close to reality.

6. One more important evidence of P1 is in dining table scene in blue dress. Look how she interacts with Vinu. she is just care taker. Mera bachcha jaap is not there. Virat moves away when she serves him, and she is OKAY with it. And look at BK's surprised face when Pakhi says they will concentrate on Vinu. BK cannot understand this Pakhi. Hence the surprise. She thinks Pakhi wants to move on with Virat. But this Pakhi is happy with her status quo. Also P1 Pakhi, will be the first one to stop family from keeping hopes on thier marriage. she jumps in to stop them. Contrast this with Pakhi in another dining table scene where they propose honeymoon trip. She stays silent, let the family prod Virat. She has expectations.


Blue dress P1 Pakhi is the one who will ask Virat tomorrow to start afresh, becasue she knows there is nothing between them, or there could be anything between them. She knows Virat's feelings. But she doesnt stay in P1 state longer because in this state Virat is aloof with her. She is not strong enough to accept it.


Virat is trying to make this blue dress Pakhi constant, so she will accept her fate and move on. Or remain in the same zone they set for themselves. Doest question him or expect anything from him. Beause that is what they agreed upon. May be.


GO BACK AND WATCH THE EPISODES NOW :D


PS: Dont throw galis, chappals and stones at me if this is proved wrong. this is what I observed with my KD mind. And the biggest clue is, as moor and sherry mentioned, and I also agree. The nonchanlance of Virat towards Pakhi and the so called marriage when he met Sai. He didnt even think about Pakhi during their argument. It is a big give away.

Edited by sadiltl - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

My question is this- if marriage is fake and pp is ill, will it negate PPs crimes, V allowing her into his life, bedroom as a wife ignoring all those crimes?! Does it make V any less of a cheater? Is his interest to adopt the kid even when he's deemed to not be a candidate as per orphanage rules because hes not married > 2 years and responsibility to pp's well-being bigger than the fact that pp was responsible for Sai's death and he allowed it to happen. How can he forget it all and care so much for the criminal?! He never held pp accountable. Sai lost 2 babies due to pp.

If Sai had behaved like V had, no one would make excuses for her..

I'd hate to see Sai being blamed or feeling guilty when she has done nothing wrong. She had no option but to leave and no reason to come back. Onus was on V and he failed. I really hope future tracks dont make Sai the scapegoat.

Edited by Nja91 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Nicely explained, moor.

Marriage is real cause everyone and especially Ashwini told about their marriage to harini.

People in cn know about that Bhavani wanted to send them on a honeymoon trip

Your theory gave me a little more clarity about the cn. If everyone else in unaware of this and consider pakhi normal, then maybe that's why Ashwini keeps telling virat to move on with pakhi. Even when pakhi isn't present.


Your last paragraph is THE ONLY REASON, i don't want this to come true as i don't want sai to run behind him, apologize to him and hail him. We've had enough of that.

But, if he takes up the responsibility for the miseries in both pakhi and sai's lives, then I'm all in for this.

I'll be okay, as long as it doesn't give virat an upperhand and leeway.


PAKHI MIGHT BE MENTALLY ILL BUT HE HAS MADE SAI SUFFER TOO MUCH. She didn't deserve it.

He hurt her even when he was UNAWARE that pakhi was mentally ill. During surrogacy etc, and that shouldn't be forgiven or forgotten for pakhi's mental illness. Cause that may have been exposed after sai's 'death'.

But, i agree that this track will help in virat's redemption. And, make him a little worthy of sai.


A good track with some good amount of potential. If they're planning on showing this, then they should be focused on proper execution. Cause, this track will be a little deep and needs good execution.

Acting and screaming, lord will save us🙏❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago

Neerja, if Pakhi's illness is the result of surrogacy, then Virat takes the blame on himself. He will take upon himself to make sure she is recovered. He can go to any extreme except for becoming her lover.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Neerja, if Pakhi's illness is the result of surrogacy, then Virat takes the blame on himself. He will take upon himself to make sure she is recovered. He can go to any extreme except for becoming her lover.

Please ping vankar this. Please I can’t take this praise Pakhi goodness train anymore. As of today, there is nothing for Sai to want that life back.

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Posted: 3 years ago

My only thing is , does it come across like that to audience, why haven’t they revealed it to audience atleast. TRP aud don’t scrutinise like we do

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: focus7

My only thing is , does it come across like that to audience, why haven’t they revealed it to audience atleast. TRP aud don’t scrutinise like we do


Why cant you accept that Pakhi is changed? If Jagtap can change why not Pakhi? Is it because of the actor?

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Posted: 3 years ago

Instead of trying to act as of he's some Mr Fix it, it'd do him good to get pp professional help and focus on self introspection about how much he screwed up and what all he put Sai through. He had multiple ways of "helping" pp without tying her to himself as his "wife". Him choosing to do something so absurd with his ex, someone obsessed with him, his brothers widow and Sai's wrongdoer is the limit of insensitivity. PPs crimes are no less than JM. If he asks Sai why JM is around, why then does he hail a criminal as mahaan?! She was immoral and criminal even pre surrogacy.

He has already cheated Sai. Period. Sairat reconciliation will be Sai giving her cheater ex husband another chance. He doesn't deserve it. Savi deserves to be without a pathetic influence like V in her life. Sai will be making a mistake if she proceeds with wanting to be with V again especially when he doesn't even realize his crimes. It'll destroy the essence of Sai :(

If the thoeories of mental illness and V - pp fake marriage are true, it holds no water.

If they are untrue, then also status quo.

V is a cheat. Liar. abusive. Toxic. Crime enabler and criminal. A horrible man. Him pp and the gfsaken family deserve to rot in hell.

V choosing to "marry"pp to adopt a child is him duping the system again just like illegal surrogacy. No lessons learnt.

If pp is mentally ill the last thing she should be doing is being a parent! If she's not ill then after being indirectly/directly responsible for Sai's siffering, her miscarriage and separation from Vinu she does NOT deserve to be a mother.

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Posted: 3 years ago

I dont buy pp goodness act. She's always a liar. Even if pp is "reformed" now it doesn't negate her years of criminal behavior and toxicity. JM is being held at an arms length by Sai. He does not get hailed as mahaan. He served his time unlike pp. So theres no comparison.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: sadiltl


Why cant you accept that Pakhi is changed? If Jagtap can change why not Pakhi? Is it because of the actor?

If Pakhi has changed. She would have told Sai the truth about her marriage, Pakhi changed wouldn’t marry Virat or even stay in CN niwas.

The way they show Pakhi as all hail mahaan after all the shit she did. She is responsible for Sai’s state and vinus death some part of it. Virat is responsible too


JM is not hailed as the best, and Sai knows her limits and even corrected UM, that what he did can never be excused.

Look at the treatment of two characters.


Virat married his dead wife’s abuser and not just that he showers and praises too. That’s why it’s unpalatable and my heart doesn’t accept this. It doesn’t matter if V the char doesn’t see it that way, he has no one to show him Sai’s POV except Sai herself and she did but still nothing. Still blaming Sai for his stupidity, his stupid assumptions, no questioning nothing. After he lost his supposed love of life.

He gave Sai’s position to Sai’s worst nightmare, you can see from Sai’s reactions. She was hurt but still fine thinking he moved on with someone else.


whwre is the coming back from this? I would love for your theory to be true.

Edited by focus7 - 3 years ago

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