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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thank you so much for the appreciation.🤗

I guess my creative mind comes from my educational background. I am an Architect so I am programmed to think that way.


About the scenes and tracks.. thank you for clarifying. This is what I wanted to know.


I understand that in a film/limited series it is much easier to leave Easter eggs and the viewer can quickly pick up too. But it must be difficult especially in a daily soap i guess


Anyway... Felt nice that it is actually what i imagined how it is done. 👍🏼

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

This is a particular shot I had loved when it was shown in the episode..

This was also when the new director came in and I mentioned that this represented the change in treatment.


Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin : Sai Returns to Chavan Niwas ; Burns Divorce Papers - fiction247.com


Elements of visual design

1. Composition - rule of thirds... Sai occupies a third of the total frame... the object you intend to give importance should get a prominent space.

2. Emphasis and movement - At first glance for the viewer, the focus is on V since he is in centre of the frame and in focus while the ladies are blurred ... but he is looking towards Sai.. so automatically a viewer looks at her. Kind off through his eyes

3. Proportion - V - Sai are almost of same height but because he is in background, he looks smaller... which at that point in story he was ...because he was wrong. Pakhi is shorter and has to raise her head to look at Sai whereas Sai is looking down on her. Symbolically it represents Sai is superior

4. Pattern - the fabrics in the back are similar in shade to Sai's saree.. emphasizing her more.

5. Contrast - V is in contrast colour to Sai and standing out which he was then in the story.


And then there is an another interesting element of fire...

The fire is burning near Pakhi as if symbolically she herself is burning which she was in the episode. Her hand is placed such that it feels she is indeed burning physically.


On the outset, it may look like V is an outsider to this equation, but him placed in centre means he is the pivot on which the other two hang... but his focus is only on one side.

So even though, at this point in story, SaiRat are at bad terms... eventually they will come together.

Also, this story is now more of Sai and Virat and not just Virat

Cross refer it to the show title montage where V is in centre but looking ahead while the ladies are looking at him... sort of dependent on him... here he is dependent on Sai.


There are lot of other factors but this is the gist.

Hope this explains what I meant and its not high funda nonsense. 😆

Wow!! Wow!! 👏👏I have no idea about film making but now you have taught me to look at these things in a different light. Thank you 🤗 I am slowly understanding the term Film Appreciation😊
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Film and television all are piece of arts..Its the culmination of story, screenplay, camera, editing everything.. Director decides how he wants to visualise the story and the characters playing it.. That's why we say a director is the captain of a ship..

I'm just an ordinary viewer.. I tend to see in the lens of entertainment..

Ghum certainly had a top notch phase in the technical department once upon a time.. Off late it's improving but still not same as before..

One more thing a director should have full command over his actor's.. That's why I am keep saying Neil and Ayesha need counselling from director.. They are individually spontaneous but together some times so bland.. Jafar could get the best out of them

I remember watching a bts sanjay lila's sawariya.. Man that's call direction how he was churning out all the emotions from Ranbeer kapoor.. A good director can transform a mediocre performer into a good performer..

It is sometimes seen ,there are inconsistency in dialogues because makers tend to change writers as per their convenient..

For example one can view the difference during the the parallel of Pakhi's yoga memories and Virat playing drum for sai.. Virat was not looking at Pakhi while playing for her where as his eyes were only on Sai playing the drum.. He catches both Pakhi and Sai and the difference is he doesn't look at the former but he takes the later fully in his arms..

When Sai feels disturbed at the baby demands virat comes to calm her down.. Sai sits on the floor keeping her head on the bed where as virat sits on the bed facing sai ..Thst was an another awesome view.. Virat became her father her teacher and her best friend to whom sai can share everything..

Virat's dream breaking the chain to rescue Sai..He actually freed himself from a aimless life that he was going to live for Pakhi.. The chain represents the hurdles he would face to get Sai's love..

Those are the scenes I thought quite impactful

Edited by Shaome - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Oh my .. thank you so much 🥰


I am also new to all this.. but as i said i understand the basic principles of design. So i can analyse these.


But if you are really interested in proper film making then there are two insta pages that i follow


Humansofcinema

Moviesandcharacters


Both are brilliant... Follow them if you wish to know more.

It has helped me to look at these things more effectively.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Such beautiful examples... ❤️❤️❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I have not found ghum to be directed so well .. initial scenes were good .. it just deteriorated badly during the lockdown phase I could understand their problems but later on when they went back to Mumbai it just did not improve ..


The worst was during the shruti track .. the hair make up everything was off .. and NB started looking a lot older ..



however yes .. I see improvements in the last one two months things are happening



The thing which attracts me in ghum .. is the understanding of characters .. I am quite impressed with Leena G .. she understands people well .. her characters have a slice of reality . She exemplifies the trauma .. but the characters are not fantastical..


I don’t like Ekta Kapoor .. because these rebirths , lost and found things are illogical .. even multiple marriages.. that’s why I did not like the remarriage track in ghum it was not there in KD .. so not written by Leena …. because in real life husband and wife don’t keep on spending money to get married again and again .. if they have made up after a fight they go for a nice holiday .. not dress up to do pheras

Though I hate to say .. these bigamy stories that Leena writes .. even that is not off the mark .. there are enough people in this world who cheat their wives and keep mistresses in fake marriages


Edited by msin - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: msin

I have not found ghum to be directed so well .. initial scenes were good .. it just deteriorated badly during the lockdown phase I could understand their problems but later on when they went back to Mumbai it just did not improve ..


The worst was during the shruti track .. the hair make up everything was off .. and NB started looking a lot older ..



however yes .. I see improvements in the last one two months things are happening



The thing which attracts me in ghum .. is the understanding of characters .. I am quite impressed with Leena G .. she understands people well .. her characters have a slice of reality . She exemplifies the trauma .. but the characters are not fantastical..


I don’t like Ekta Kapoor .. because these rebirths , lost and found things are illogical .. even multiple marriages.. that’s why I did not like the remarriage track in ghum it was not there in KD .. so not written by Leena …. because in real life husband and wife don’t keep on spending money to get married again and again .. if they have made up after a fight they go for a nice holiday .. not dress up to do pheras

Though I hate to say .. these bigamy stories that Leena writes .. even that is not off the mark .. there are enough people in this world who cheat their wives and keep mistresses in fake marriages


I'm not much fan of ekta but she understands her target audience so well.. She is a shrewd business woman.. No wonder she has been surviving for over 20 years..

I have come across some of her old series probably early days of career, they are actually nicely written..

As I said she is a business woman so she has segregated her audience accordingly.. She has sensibly recreated YHM from a novel.. I have stopped watching that show after point because it was going beyond tolerance level.. Even when she started giving her own inputs it was hit..

Best part about her balaji she got some best directors... You will hardly see any technical error in the scenes and her team is quiet synchronised ..

Ghum's direction went downhil ever since the holi track.. Directors don't have any vision.. It's getting better stop not up to the mark ..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Ekta’s rebirths and humshakals put me off .. how can a man who died .. suddenly have a replica .. living in some other town .. and suddenly somebody from his family will see them and bring them over ..

Then we keep on guessing .. yeh Wohi toh nahi .. and then in a space of 6 months ..pura change over ho jayega .. an illiterate will start speaking in English and become a smart n savvy business person .. which is shown in no 1 show ..

Thoda too much hai

Edited by msin - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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the 10pm show on Star Plus is Ekta's na. My god. That show is terrible.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: msin

Ekta’s rebirths and humshakals put me off .. how can a man who died .. suddenly have a replica .. living in some other town .. and suddenly somebody from his family will see them and bring them over ..

Then we keep on guessing .. yeh Wohi toh nahi .. and then in a space of 6 months ..pura change over ho jayega .. an illiterate will start speaking in English and become a smart n savvy business person .. which is shown in no 1 show ..

Thoda too much hai

It's not like she believes in such things.. As I mentioned she has a target audience for her stories to sell..

She knows who will receive her rebirth stories or who wouldn't..if her story is not received well or it has no potential she will shut down.. As a shrewd business woman she understands her customer's pulse..

For example her blah is only for classes.. That's not for trp viewers . This show is for the ones who has little idealistic view towards life.. So they are enjoying it.

What I don't like about her that she demeans woman a lot..after a separation track girl is seen living with another man as his fake wife...Next spiking drink to intoxicate the hero to sleep with him.. These are things really puts me off about her..

Success is not an easy thing that it will be served in a plater ..Thays not the main purpose of that show..A middle aged lady looking for acceptance in the society.. A lady who lost her identity to her husband, her kids ..She is just fighting to be happy and live her life to the fullest.. Ladies of her age probably who are stuck by typical societal norms would not even raise a voice with a fear of society..so many females jusr connected to the character not her story

Edited by Shaome - 3 years ago

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