A strong woman threatens the hypocrites - Page 2

Even though Sai speaks up or does what she believes in , I don't think Sai herself recognizes what CN/pp put her through is domestic abuse. Sad reality of many women. even educated smart women dont often recognize what is harassment, abuse. When we see as a 3rd person we can recognize it, but when roles are reversed and its you who is the target of abuse- you fail at recognizing n labeling it as abuse. If Sai did understand that it is abuse- she'd left CN or got them arrested. Virat also doesn't recognize what Sai gies through as abuse. Sai has been led to believe that they are all just old fashioned, unable to see her pov...and she has got attached to CN peeps despite all their issues because staying with them for over a year she actually views them as a "foster family". She knows that they are not truly her family, they wil never love her the way they love Virat, Samrat n chosen bahu pp but she is innocent n forgiving - so she still tries to see the good in all of them. She is cognizant of her own flaws but is unable to control her impulsiveness as she once told aai and virat too- she thinks because she is flawed and gets carried away sometimes, she thinks CN elders/pp are also "flawed" not recognizing that they are way beyond that - they are full on "abusers" who have crossed far too many lines. Sai may be brash, flawed but she has never crossed the line of right/wrong unlike pp, CN elders. It sucks that pp n elders are never made to pay for their actions on rhis show

Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi

True.👍🏼

As per the saying "Haters don't really hate you. In fact they hate themselves because you're a reflection of what they wish to be." This is the case of Pakhi and co.

One simple observation "If you stand up for thyself, you will be targeted".

When parallel lead emotionally tortured ML, most of us said it's wrong, pathetic whereas now FL is head weight/egoistic not understanding or accepting ML and his actions are simply indifferent and not rude. All the characters advising Sai to understand and accept Virat, but no one tells Virat to be clear with his words to work with the married life. Sai is not flawless but why the hell all the characters ask her to be one when they are not🤪

The fact that virat knows sai questions his friendship with pakhi and wants so desperately to know what he and pakhi talked about is because she doesn't like his closeness with pakhi, yet refuses to clear her doubts by just being honest makes it stupid for virat to complain why sai doesn't admit her feelings for him. Dude, why will she admit to her feelings when you know she herself is so full of doubts about your relationship with your bestie/ ex and that you avoid answering her questions properly that could clear those doubts of hers? He himself calls sai bachchi and immature, but why does he acts so naive and innocent himself as if he can't see why sai keeps questioning him about pakhi? Then again when he can't even seem to see pakhi's hatred for sai when pakhi's behaviour towards sai is out in the open, how can we even expect him to acknowledge sai's insecurities even if sai's questions scream insecure and jealous.

Originally posted by: sammy17

I constantly asked myself why sai is putting up with all this despite how strong she is compared to other female leads, I realised that this girl has the same trademark weakness that makes her a female lead.... attachment to her husband. No matter the issues between the female lead and her husband and in-laws, she still finds herself coming running back anytime her husband or someone in her in-laws that she cares about is in pain or begs her forgiveness. 🥱 And this will forever be the sorry state of itv writers, that they will make the male leads act out and say and do nasty and abusive things to the female lead, but they won't show the female lead refusing to ever go back to him and forever stick adamant to that decision. She'll always come running back, almost like Stockholm syndrome. 😳

I agree to it mostly, the only difference I see here is she does not have anyone else to lean back ..no family no parents....The strength that comes from having a family, that is your own... is something that can make one grow individually. There is only so much that she can use that is her aaba's teachings to fight...She has always been told she is wrong, she is bad..In the one year she has been made to feel that...Remember her talk with Aai while she gets dressed for Pakhi's parents anniversary...That broke my heart...she has come to believe she is not a good person and honestly there is no one to tell her otherwise, with her husband being a part of the abuse she goes through...

Lovely reply! There is a big difference being arrogance and assertion. If she is abused and two timed by her husband she should leave. She actually doesn’t need these relations at all. Why is she still with Virat. A strong headed girl needs to show her strength by staying away from CN and showing people that she can survive with out them. There are numerous stories that show a strong willed woman. I have seen plenty and loved them too. I donno if anyone has watched Zakmi aurat starring Dimple Kapadia. That's a strong willed woman. Not an excuse of a strong willed woman like Sai.

EHT was another show which I liked. That was one strong willed woman. I loved both the protagonist and the antagonist. Both women. In fact I loved the antagonist more. Sakshi Goenka was one hell of a sophisticated lady. I loved her character, her acting, her persona her everything. I call her a strategist! Not Sai. She is just rude, brash and arrogant. I am actually ok with women being manipulative. I have come to realise (though lately, even in real life) that you need to manipulate - be it ur husband or in-laws in order to survive. You can call it politics, manipulation or strategy. All the same. Just sophisticated words. But Sais no where there..

Originally posted by: sammy17

I constantly asked myself why sai is putting up with all this despite how strong she is compared to other female leads, I realised that this girl has the same trademark weakness that makes her a female lead.... attachment to her husband. No matter the issues between the female lead and her husband and in-laws, she still finds herself coming running back anytime her husband or someone in her in-laws that she cares about is in pain or begs her forgiveness. 🥱 And this will forever be the sorry state of itv writers, that they will make the male leads act out and say and do nasty and abusive things to the female lead, but they won't show the female lead refusing to ever go back to him and forever stick adamant to that decision. She'll always come running back, almost like Stockholm syndrome. 😳

Everyone might have a different def of strong , but for me , she fails on 2 counts..one which you mentioned..she keeps running bk to her husband AND to her abusive in laws ..husband is ok..girls fall in love with men and continue to maintain the relationship bec after parents & siblings , it's the husband with whom the girl feels attachment with ....why would she love people who abuse her everyday ? Who hate her? Like pakhi , kaku , and omi.

the 2nd one , she is indecisive , taking the middle path ..and she was accusing virat of sailing in 2 boats either is she the wife or she is not. Either it's a deal shadi or it's not. Either she is virats wife or she is not. She loves him or she doesn't. She believes he is having affair or she doesn't..She can't be all as per her mood. It makes her look like a hypocrite.

Except for that , meri taraf se 1 ki sau sunaye. 😆

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I agree to it mostly, the only difference I see here is she does not have anyone else to lean back ..no family no parents....The strength that comes from having a family, that is your own... is something that can make one grow individually. There is only so much that she can use that is her aaba's teachings to fight...She has always been told she is wrong, she is bad..In the one year she has been made to feel that...Remember her talk with Aai while she gets dressed for Pakhi's parents anniversary...That broke my heart...she has come to believe she is not a good person and honestly there is no one to tell her otherwise, with her husband being a part of the abuse she goes through...

Yep! Sai is not only constantly having to fend herself against insults and accusations, but she's also dealing with her own confusion over her importance in virat's life. There's far more on her plate, especially considering she's also trying to complete her education whilst managing all this emotional turmoil. Her every actions and words scream insecure, but virat toh is only concerned that sai no matter what admits that she loves him else he will ignore her and move away, he doesn't seems to care that she's confused or insecure, just he needs her admission. No matter what a third person says, for a married person it is always the words from their spouse's mouth only that can given them the assurance about what position they hold in their spouse's life. Yes I wish sai would at least doubt that maybe virat does have feelings for her, but given her already existing doubts and insecurities now coupled with virat's distant and indifferent behaviour with her, she is all the more full of doubt that he considers her as his wife.

Originally posted by: vimeo

Lovely reply! There is a big difference being arrogance and assertion. If she is abused and two timed by her husband she should leave. She actually doesn’t need these relations at all. Why is she still with Virat. A strong headed girl needs to show her strength by staying away from CN and showing people that she can survive with out them. There are numerous stories that show a strong willed woman. I have seen plenty and loved them too. I donno if anyone has watched Zakmi aurat starring Dimple Kapadia. That's a strong willed woman. Not an excuse of a strong willed woman like Sai.

EHT was another show which I liked. That was one strong willed woman. I loved both the protagonist and the antagonist. Both women. In fact I loved the antagonist more. Sakshi Goenka was one hell of a sophisticated lady. I loved her character, her acting, her persona her everything. I call her a strategist! Not Sai. She is just rude, brash and arrogant. I am actually ok with women being manipulative. I have come to realise (though lately, even in real life) that you need to manipulate - be it ur husband or in-laws in order to survive. You can call it politics, manipulation or strategy. All the same. Just sophisticated words. But Sais no where there..

An excuse of strong willed woman because you don't like the character. lmao. Listing it out for you. Strong willed woman are not decided by comparing with other characters, Everyone has their own stories, their own journeys. How are they comparable? This girl lost both her parents prematurely. Fought sexual harassments against a criminal and his corrupt politician dad. Endured and made her pathetic excuse of a husband accountable for his mistakes (her fault that she forgave him), standing strong after going through domestic abuse at the place of criminals who are sadly her in laws. Rude, brash, arrogance is precisely how strong women are dismissed but they still rise.

I agree she is being abused and manipulated by her man-child husband and she should leave. Her not leaving is her mistake. No one else can be blamed for it. Sakshi Goenka was pure evil. She is a criminal. What you call manipulation and sophistication will land you in jail. What a sorry excuse of comparison. You dont have to be manipulative. You are using people when you manipulate them. Thats what Pakhi, Virat and whoever believes in it does. If sophistication is equated to criminal minds that doesnt warrant a response.

Politics, manipulation and strategy are entirely different honey. Refer to a thesaurus. I am glad Sai isnt any of it. She is courageous, brave, truthful, fights for her rights and is just.

Originally posted by: _charu_

Everyone might have a different def of strong , but for me , she fails on 2 counts..one which you mentioned..she keeps running bk to her husband AND to her abusive in laws ..husband is ok..girls fall in love with men and continue to do so bec after parents & siblings , it's the husband with whom the girl feels attachment with ....why would she love people who abuse her everyday ? Who hate her? Like pakhi , kaku , and omi.

the 2nd one , she is indecisive , taking the middle path ..and she was accusing virat of sailing in 2 boats either is she the wife or she is not. Either it's a deal shadi or it's not. Either she is virats wife or she is not. She loves him or she doesn't. She believes he is having affair or she doesn't..She can't be all as per her mood. It makes her look like a hypocrite.

Except for that , meri taraf se 1 ki sau sunaye. 😆

It's not really hypocrisy on sai's part. It's pure confusion. Girl know she doesn't like seeing pakhi with virat. I'm damn sure somewhere she knows why, but she fears to admit it to herself. The moment she admits to herself that virat-pakhi do bother her instead of her current denial then she'll be forced to question her feelings for virat. But I'm starting to give up, because these writers seem only interested in dragging out sai's realisation, that's why they are prolonging it by showing sai keep repeating the same dialogues about deal marriage in every episode. There's no natural progression that writers want to show, instead just one random episode they'll finally show sai confessing to him she loves him, without there being no prior episodes where sai to herself realises she is in love with virat but scared of rejection.

Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi

True.👍🏼

As per the saying "Haters don't really hate you. In fact they hate themselves because you're a reflection of what they wish to be." This is the case of Pakhi and co.

One simple observation "If you stand up for thyself, you will be targeted".

When parallel lead emotionally tortured ML, most of us said it's wrong, pathetic whereas now FL is head weight/egoistic not understanding or accepting ML and his actions are simply indifferent and not rude. All the characters advising Sai to understand and accept Virat, but no one tells Virat to be clear with his words to work with the married life. Sai is not flawless but why the hell all the characters ask her to be one when they are not🤪

Bold- You said it all. Yes you will be targeted if you stand up for yourself.

Last paragraph- Thanks for spelling it out. Some hypocrites (characters) should know this

Originally posted by: oblivious_soul

The topic solely deals with fiction. Kindly requesting anyone with a vested agenda of bashing real members or actors to not do that

"In our world, a man is confident but a woman, arrogant .A man is uncompromising but a woman is a ball breaker. A man is assertive, a woman is aggressive. A man is strategic, a woman is manipulative. A man is a leader, a woman is controlling. A man is authoritative, a woman is annoying. The characteristic or behavior is the same, what is different is the sex. And based on the sex, the world makes assumptions and the world treats us differently"

-Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

The world includes you and me who treats the sexes differently. We haven't learnt to accept strong woman. Strong woman threatens the traditional notions. They threaten the power of orthodoxy. They are to be feared. The world tries to silence them. They are called arrogant, irritating, annoying, rude and whatnot. Standing up for oneself is labelled so by the society. Bhavani tried to suppress Sai from day 1 because Sai threatened her uncontrolled power. Virat tried to label her immature and childish to exert control over her and abuse her. Pakhi called her a brat, rude, stupid girl to show her dominance and Sai showed them all their places. None of the characters could take it and they still label her with these names. So is the case with many. Sai is the victim of domestic violence but see how victims are treated. Women especially someone like Sai who is assertive and confident is seen as a threat by Kaku, Virat and Pakhi and many with a similar thought process. She is outspoken and challenged the archaic " narrow minded" thinking of many. Such women are considered to be threat by many. Because a confident assertive woman who knows her mind will be hard to be controlled by the patriarchy (husband). So the narrative must be spun away from the positive towards the negative and reductive. Hence the victim will be called by many as the aggressor because she threatened their hypocrisy and double standards- I mean Chauhan family ofc, not anyone else. If she is called rude, arrogant, immature, brat she can be easily dismissed and brushed aside. They couldn't tame her, so they tried to make her succumb by denying food and shelter. The parrot puppet Virat acted as harbinger of abuse. He outdid even Kaku of 17th century. Women like Pakhi and some others the patriarchal ideas are so ingrained that they don't know where they go wrong. They will agree twisting Sai's hand was wrong but will also support a person who practiced domestic violence. Kaku, Ashwini and many others wants her to let go off past and do pati pooja of Virat. Sai should spoil herself talking to her classmates but her husband can have the ex flame at one hand distance. If she doesn't accept it she is called ungrateful and insensitive. \

Here's to all the Sai's who were called arrogant, rude, annoying, immature by Kaku's, Pakhi's and Virat's you are a one hell of a strong woman who threatened the power and exposed their hypocrisy

Thanks for this .

I have been refraining myself for past couple of days, but I am glad to read a post that resonates with what I feel🙏🤗