A strong woman threatens the hypocrites - Page 4

Originally posted by: _charu_

This post was about Sai and her strengths ..if we wanna do virat murdabad, which I didn't wanna do as we will be digressing , ok I will do it but just once.. lemme tell you I have zero sympathy for virat. Call him whatever , it doesn't affect me. I like sai so I judge her..

This isn't convincing to me as a viewer ...her confusion etc ..let me tell you , I am not waiting for her confession either...I give two hoots.. I want clarity on why sai acts like virats wife when she pleases and becomes like a deal wife as per convenience ..as a bahu ,anyways her actions never make sense to me...forcefully getting the family to watch her function...forcefully taking care of virat ..I won't go there..

If as virats wife she stopped his transfer its OK. But not as someone who wanted virat to be with his family..she had no right..if she was confused just let him go , let him have his space..

If as virats wife and his love, she wants clarity on pakhi and virat relation, I am fine with it..but as a deal wife who is indecisive about whether or not to love her husband , based on whether she can trust virat , I find it stupid...she is sitting on the edge waiting for something or someone to tell her that pakhi virat is over and it's virat sai now.. this is not love.

If as a wife she felt angry, frustrated and jealous in the Cafe when she saw virat holding hands , fine..but if she is his deal wife, she shouldn't be affected by it. virat also acted crazily but at least there was clarity in his actions. Sai wants to know the reason why virat was holding pakhis hand ? What for? Either she can choose to trust virat or not trust him. if she trusts him, she shouldn't ask this questions, if she doesn't, no amount of reasoning would be enuf ..If she loves him, pakhi ho ya khakhi, it shouldn't matter. Waiting to confess? Arre pyar toh ho hi gaya na , woh kaise hua with a guy who in her mind loves another woman?

Everyone has a choice to take it or leave it. They can't have it both ways.

The answer to that is obvious.

She knows she wants the position of his wife, but she thinks she doesn't have that position. Pakhi didi ka bhoot jo sawaar hai sai pe 🤪

She believes herself to be a responsibility for him, but she wants more but fears admitting to herself or asking virat whether he sees her more than that.

She's jealous through and through thinking that virat is only sacrificing his love for pakhi for his brother, but fears admitting this, after all before marrying him when virat told her he loves somebody else and she will only be his responsibility sai too had said that he doesn't need to worry because she will only stay with him till she becomes a doctor. So she's trying to stick to her own words too that she had given virat before marriage to assure him that she won't come between him and the girl he loves.

So to keep it simple, she wants to be his wife, but haq maangne se darti hai out of the same fear of rejection that virat is going through as well, except for sai it is a stronger fear because at least virat knows sai has never had any romantic interest in her life before him, but for sai her marriage started with the knowledge that he is in love with someone else, and that same person lives under the same room and is still a part of virat's life through constant interference. So anytime out of attachment to virat or insecurity she asserts wife rights over him, she recoils and goes into denial when virat questions her why his relationship with pakhi bothers her, because her brain doesn't register virat's this question as him trying to get her to admit her feelings for him.... her brain registers it as him telling her to mind her own business and as a reminder that they had both decided this marriage was a marriage of responsibility and a deal etc.

It's not a simple case about trusting him or not. It's not like virat has ever told sai he no longer loves pakhi and only loves sai now, that's why sai still suspects that virat still may have feelings for pakhi the way pakhi obviously still does for him. Sai could be accused of not trusting virat if virat had already clarified to sai that he loves her and not pakhi, and after that sai still chose to think virat has feelings for pakhi, but here nothing of the such has happened, so the accusation that sai doesn't trust virat doesn't apply until virat and sai have both confessed they love each other and actually accept they are husband and wife.

Originally posted by: laksh

It is her subconscious mind which is making her do these. Virat took the oath during the wedding and also informed Sai that he did give all the vaadas but he can only take her responsibility. That was because subconsciously he knew that he can’t take fake oaths and was respecting their marriage. The next minute, he was telling Pakhi that she was very special to him and he loves her.

He could see Pakhi at the start of the wedding but only Sai while filling the maang. The subconscious mind kept making him do the right things.

He kept clarifying to Pakhi about Sai later too but he didn’t want to let go of Sai when she said she wanted to move to hostel. He kept calling her zimmedari but didn’t want her to go GC to get money from her Dad’s account. He couldn’t name it love but instead thought that he had got habituated to her. He didn’t know why he acted crazy when Sai spoke to Amay or Aniket but even on the Alta day when Sai was asleep and he was about to wake her up, he was wondering why should it matter to him if she admires Aniket. He had warned the guy in college and grew mad at Sai but couldn’t even accept that he was jealous. He was even then trying to deny that it doesn’t matter to him or doesn’t affect him. But the same day, he wanted to know if Sai loves him while applying medicine on her feet.

This is exactly what Sai has also been doing. She acts like a wife, a lover, a jealous woman but also is confused, in denial, doesn’t want to accept that it affects her when he goes on transfer or when he is with Pakhi but the truth is not that.

She has also wanted to know from him why he does a certain things, she has also told him that he confuses her. Just like how he wanted to hear from her if she cannot or doesn’t love him, she also wants to hear that. Virat didn’t even have an obstacle of another person in between them, in fact it was him who had made this deal and asked her not to expect anything from him as a husband and yet he couldn’t accept that he had feelings for her for a long time.

Sai was told not to expect anything from him and also there is someone named Pakhi between her, which is why it is going to be an even more difficult thing for Sai to accept or admit to herself that she loves Virat. Her denial will be even more stronger than his. But at the same time, she will be acting like his wife subconsciously.

Agreed! Virat has experienced the similar things that sai is going through now where virat has felt jealous and even acted upon his jealousy and even gone through moments of denial in it. Sai now too is going through the same situation, except it's far more harder for sai than virat to accept her feelings or think she has a chance with virat because virat knew sai has no past lover she was involved with or had any feelings for, so it was easier for him to accept that he is in love with sai because virat did not have a pakhi equivalent for sai who could make him feel that sai's heart is already taken. Virat did not have the same roadblock or reason for insecurity that sai has.

Originally posted by: _charu_

Sorry I didn't understand what were we cheering sai for..becoming ashwini part 2 ? Coz in the case of sai, if quitting isn't the best option then she is choosing to live her life exactly like ashwini. Criterias r too many. ..for me ashwini is also a strong woman.

I am not cheering. I said she should leave. But if she doesn't that alone doesn't make her weak for me. NO Sai can and will never be an Aswini 2. This wasnt my topic intention, so not gonna elaborate but Sai demands accountability unlike Aswini.

Same, Aswini is for me as well. She is living with a man like Ninad for 30 plus years. She is strong

Thank you to everyone who commented here. The purpose was to call out the hypocrisy and narrow mindness of members, Chauhan Nivas members you know. I see a good discussion on Sai- Virat feelings. I am not intersted in the couple at all. Hence leaving. Continue with the discussion. Tc

Originally posted by: Ramyalaxmi

True.👍🏼

As per the saying "Haters don't really hate you. In fact they hate themselves because you're a reflection of what they wish to be." This is the case of Pakhi and co.

One simple observation "If you stand up for thyself, you will be targeted".

When parallel lead emotionally tortured ML, most of us said it's wrong, pathetic whereas now FL is head weight/egoistic not understanding or accepting ML and his actions are simply indifferent and not rude. All the characters advising Sai to understand and accept Virat, but no one tells Virat to be clear with his words to work with the married life. Sai is not flawless but why the hell all the characters ask her to be one when they are not🤪

@bold This is beautiful ❤️

Originally posted by: sammy17

The answer to that is obvious.

She knows she wants the position of his wife, but she thinks she doesn't have that position. Pakhi didi ka bhoot jo sawaar hai sai pe 🤪

She believes herself to be a responsibility for him, but she wants more but fears admitting to herself or asking virat whether he sees her more than that.

I am.not denying her confusion or her jealousy or denial. Like I said Idc she understands the quadrilateral equation or not. What I don't understand is her forceful Interference in their lives as virats wife , when she is so clear in her head that she is a deal wife ..clearly a deal wife or she is confused about her status... If she is confused and she is in denial don't confuse others with her actions. If she cares so much for virat he will obviously take it as a sign of love and wait for her confession. If she is confused she can also act indifferent and distant with virat till the time she gets clarity. More so, just let him go.

Originally posted by: _charu_

I am.not denying her confusion or her jealousy or denial. Like I said Idc she understands the quadrilateral equation or not. What I don't understand is her forceful Interference in their lives as virats wife , when she is so clear in her head that she is a deal wife. If she is confused and she is in denial don't confuse others with her actions. If she cares so much for virat he will obviously take it as a sign of love and wait for her confession. If she is confused she can also act indifferent and distant with virat till the time she gets clarity. More so, just let him go.

The point is she is not clear ...thats her denial speaking...that's Virat's words engraved in her heart speaking...She does not believe Virat loves her and hence every time there is a possibility of the thought in her head that she loves Virat she talks about deal...Every time she feels attracted to him...she talks about deal.. every time she feels like loving him...she talks about deal...every time she yearns him she talks about deal..thats her defence mechanism , because she does not want to be rejected...Because once she accepts to herself that she is in love, she is a goner...the heartbreak, the lack of love from the other end is going to consume her.. So yes she is not clear in her head about being a deal wife...She does not want to be the deal wife and every time she calls herself a deal wife, she wants the man, who while taking vows of this marriage called it all a deal to deny calling it a deal, do deny calling her his deal wife...

Just like Virat has confused her with his care and concern always and clubbing it under "zimmedaari" when questioned....she is doing the same thing...In her case there is no ex living under Virat's nose to f**k his mind, in Sai's case, there is an ex always standing at the door...and allowed by her husband to interfere in their relationship and f**k her mind...

Originally posted by: _charu_

I am.not denying her confusion or her jealousy or denial. Like I said Idc she understands the quadrilateral equation or not. What I don't understand is her forceful Interference in their lives as virats wife , when she is so clear in her head that she is a deal wife ..clearly a deal wife or she is confused about her status... If she is confused and she is in denial don't confuse others with her actions. If she cares so much for virat he will obviously take it as a sign of love and wait for her confession. If she is confused she can also act indifferent and distant with virat till the time she gets clarity. More so, just let him go.

That's a common itv trope that has been shown on many couples in the falling in love. Where at least one of them shows protectiveness, or acting out of jealousy, but then switches between questioning themselves or complete denial about having feelings and justifying their actions under some other name.

Virat also did the same thing before his love realisation as sai has been doing, where he would act out of jealousy or try and control sai and question her like in cases of amey, aniket and pulkit, but then he would justify it as protection/ zimmedari and deny it bothers him. Sai has been doing it from the start though but at first it definitely wasn't because of jealousy but mostly irritation at pakhi's behaviour that made her question pakhi-virat relationship or assert wife rights, but now you see the difference when she does this same stuff now you see and hear the hurt and jealousy in her eyes and voice.

Virat too has gone through this phase that sai is going through and acted in the same way where he asserts husband right and shown jealousy but then denies it by calling it part of his zimmedari towards her, whereas sai asserts wife rights and shows jealousy but then goes into denial mode and claims she isn't bothered and why would she because it is a deal marriage blah blah blah 🤪

Matlab miya aur biwi ke harkatein ek hi hai, magar dialogues aur justification alag 😆😉

Originally posted by: _charu_

She will be a strong woman if she leaves virat and the chavans. Will she leave them? If no, then acting strong selectively doesn't help the character. If she is being abused she must leave. She doesn't need the money , she doesn't need relations , she has her hostel, a goal In life , she has contacts, get the perpetrators of domestic violence arrested. then what is she waiting for?

Retorting back depicts strength. That's the reason I like her. But on the whole , she is no different from other sp bahus. If she looks good only in comparison to virat, no..I see her differently.

So very true. If we look from a neutral perspective...Sai is living with a husband who doesn't trust her with her classmate but secretly meets his ex cum bhabhi and refuses to share what feelings/relations he has with her...Sai still chooses to stay with him. Sai knows her in laws drugged Devyani.... Kidnapped pulkit...gave away an infant in am orphanage and she still chose her in laws...never reported them. Her in laws and husband threw her out in the middle of the night....she still chose them. She isn't the strong independent female role model SP wants us to believe she is

Originally posted by: oblivious_soul

Sai should spoil herself talking to her classmates but her husband can have the ex flame at one hand distance. If she doesn't accept it she is called ungrateful and insensitive.

Insensitive, Narrow Minded, Cheap, Arrogant. Well I feel even I m all these because Definitely I won't enjoy my partner's ex roaming around him all the time, inspite of living under one roof going on a Private date holding hands and Completely denying to give out the details to me because it's his private life.

Wonder how would have Virat behaved had Sai met some guy holding hands and denying Answering Virat. Oh the guy would have been beaten up and Sai would have been called characterless and we could have go all Awwww about How Possessive Hubby Virat is 😳

This Pakhi thing and Virat's ignorance to the seriousness of this Topic irks me to no end. He won't clear a thing to Sai, Indulge in Taunting her with Pakhi as a team, Scold Sai for 'beizatting' his ex and then Cry buckets on why Sai is not able to understand anything.

Even if Sai does accept Virat's love now, she has to forever tolerate Virat Pakhi's Saga, Virat hasn't for once assured her that he doesn't love pakhi. Why is everyone just expecting Sai to understand everything. What if tomorrow Virat says 'tumko toh pta tha mere and Pakhi ka tumne phir bhi haan kaha tha mujhe toh ab problem kya hai' 😆