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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

The kiss scene is different from KD for a reason and it worked. Sai is not Emon and so it worked. Sai Joshi is not having that emotional monologue to keep the kiss emotional. Sai ‘s lines are totally in contrast with KD part. That is why the fleeting kiss looked quite in place and natural. Strictly my point of view.


Yeah Sai is not Emon … and right now she again the brought her Abba ka comparison with virat .. that itself is a buzzkill .. one thing it is quite clear .. and they have shown clearly is Sai has not yet started thhking herself physically as his wife .. so to Show her clinging to him abd taking care for him will be a little too much .. why not.. well what yo do about it ..

Yes she hugs him .. yes she clings to him .. but all of it is in the affection category ..yes virat is attracted to Sai .. he always feel the buzz when she touches him .. but Sai has not yet felt it ..

I don’t think the taking care during fever scene was bad .. it was full of care and affection if not love .. why not love .. we can take a horse to the well but we can’t make him drink the water by force


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Might be the unpopular opinion it seems, but I absolutely loved today's episode. Especially after an entire week of Pakhi overdose, today's episode was an absolute breath of fresh air.


Virat and Samrat's conversation was one of my favorite scenes of Ghum ever. I have many problems with Samrat, but he grounds his show in a way that no one else can. He is the only one who says what's in his mind and tolerates no BS, no jalebis from anyone. He knows when someone is lying, and he will call them out for it. So, Virat, again, tried to clarify everything to Samrat, but Samrat denied him the opportunity. While I was frustrated with Samrat's behavior at the beginning, I am understanding him more and more. He feels so deeply betrayed by the person who meant everything to him. It is only natural that it will take him some time to warm up. He is not as hurt by Pakhi, and that is why he has seemingly opened up to her quicker than he is to Virat. And even in his seeming "indifference" towards Virat, he could not see him in pain. He immediately grew concerned about his fever. Samrat is slowly melting towards Virat, and that was quite evident in today's episode.


Up until this point, Virat has been (subconsciously) unwilling to accept his mistakes or acknowledge the mess that he has created. Or rather, he has been too into his own emotions to be able to look at this "4 zindagi" situation from anyone's perspective but his own. And no one has held him accountable. Today, Samrat did what has been pending for the past year. Just the fact that Virat calls Patralekha Pakhi is so wrong from a 3rd person's perspective...and yet no one ever questioned it. Today, Samrat did. I can only hope that Virat reflects upon this, but the chances seem low seeing as he went back to calling her Pakhi in the same conversation. Virat told Samrat that his commitment to Pakhi had ended before Samrat's wedding, and Samrat asked the million dollar question- then why did he tell Sai this marriage was a deal? To this, Virat had no response. All along, Virat has known that his intentions are pure and he has done everything for Sai and Samrat's happiness... but he needs to understand that his actions (or actually in this case, WORDS) have consequences beyond his own feelings. Virat, again, did not want to talk about Sai... because, he is still deeply hurt by what happened during the anniversary. But, for the first time, Sai's perspective has been laid out in front of him...not by Sai herself, but by Samrat. Again, it takes an outsider to see what is going on when a relationship has become this messy... Samrat is not only a pair of fresh eyes, but he also knows Virat better than anyone, and he also understands Sai's pain better than anyone. Samrat told Virat that he needs to look at things how Sai is seeing them... and again, Virat's response is that Sai's information is outdated... but how is Sai supposed to know that? Virat thinks his actions are enough, but Samrat tells him clearly that he needs to TELL Sai. Again, Virat is hurting right now, but something in his expression made clear that he is starting to realize that he needs to clarify this mess once and for all. Given his mental and physical condition, it won't happen tonight. But, the introspection from his end is also beginning it seems. Perhaps Sai misunderstanding his meeting with Pakhi will be the final trigger that gets him to reveal the truth once and for all. I loved how Samrat basically told Virat that he cannot run away from his problems... he has to face them. No matter how shattered Virat is, only he can solve the damage that has been done in his relationships.


Coming to the SaiRat scene.

***

I understand that many people are upset when we compare it to KD. But, leaving those expectations aside and focusing on just this show, I actually really loved it. Sai's introspection has begun in full force. She is trying desperately to figure out what is wrong with Virat. The second the doctor called, Sai's heart took over her brain. She went into full wife mode- again, Sai's heart has already accepted Virat as her husband... it is her mind that has put up walls to defend herself. When Virat told her that none of his business should matter to Sai, she, without hesitation said that she is his wife. She knows it. It is real to her. She just needs to fully accept it. And, like I have been saying- the roles have been reversed. She is now hiding behind the zimidari just like Virat previously was. She says she is his wife, and yet says that this is her zimidari... because, she is protecting herself and her vulnerabilities. She is using this word to justify the rights she feels she has over him.


Just like Sai is unable to see that what Virat does for her is out of love, Virat, too, today, misunderstood Sai's love for him as her sympathy. Again, this mess is both of their making. Neither one of them are understanding the other at this point. They are both unable to see past their own hurt and confusions, but that is slowly changing.


Sai tying Virat's hands was too cute. From this point on, this was the same SaiRat that we have known. Even though nothing is right between them, the basis of their relationship remains the same. Virat rolled his eyes at Sai's antics... he knew that he would not be able to win, so he gave in.


Today, Sai finally understood that Virat is upset about the anniversary. She was shocked to hear him speaking about it in such a cold manner. Right now, her priority is Virat's health...but I truly feel that she will reflect on this. Sai knows that Virat is leaving, and she is breaking inside. But, she was trying her best to keep herself composed. She cannot break down, because she has to take care of Virat. In this moment, she is suppressing all of her own pain, because Virat is the first and foremost for her. As long as he is okay, she can withstand anything.


Virat is trying everything in his power to be indifferent towards Sai, but it is not really working out for him. The way in which she begged him please please please let me take care of you... he melted entirely. His expression immediately softened up, and he obeyed her every order. The way in which he was startled when Sai put the cloth on him, but immediately became relaxed when he saw it was her showed that she is his safe space. He feels secure in her arms.


The most important dialogue in this entire scene was Sai telling Virat that she cannot see him sick just like she cannot see her abba sick. No, she was not saying that Virat is her abba to her... she was saying that Virat holds the spot that abba once held... that Virat is the most important person to her in this entire world. And Virat understood exactly what she meant, because at these words, he melted even more. Virat knows what abba meant to Sai, and for her to say this, meant the world to him...even in all of his pain and hurt.


The last bit about them joking about Sai's "two personalities" were very cute. It's like Virat forgot entirely that he was trying to distance himself. He agreed with her when she said that she loses it at times and becomes a monster...this is exactly what happened at the anniversary fight. And, at the end, he simply said "ok" and listened to her orders.... no matter how hard he tries, he will always give in to Sai. And, Sai realizes that Virat has been pained by her...that it hasn't been easy for him to live with her. All of her reflections have started...


Now....coming to the kiss 🤣 I wish the director would have at least TRIED to mask the fact that she kissed the air and not him. I blinked and missed the kiss entirely. It seemed kind of like a forced addition in the name of copy paste. All of this being said, I don't think that a long, emotional kiss would have fit the situation here. Virat has already melted towards Sai... had Sai become that emotional and kissed him, it would have made no sense for him to even try going back to his indifference in the morning. So, I am, in a way, glad that they made it a cute kiss instead...regardless of their reasons. For those saying that the kiss was platonic, I agree. But, it is Sai's intentions behind the kiss that matter more. She did not hesitate even for a second before kissing him. This shows that while the kiss was not a "wifey" one, she feels "wifey" rights over him. She feels that he is her own, so she can kiss him. Again, she is already his wife. Her mind just needs to accept it......

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaome

I saw the bts vanker was present during the night scene.. I am having hard time to believe he is the same person who directed one of the iconic Jodi Aarshi....i totally understand many actors are NOT comfortable doing certain scenes but it's the director's job is to make it look convincing using his creativity to manipulate audience


was there bts of this night scene? how did i miss that?

And my understanding was that vankar himself was not the director for ipkknd and isnt the director now, am i misunderstanding that?

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Originally posted by: Shaome

I saw the bts vanker was present during the night scene.. I am having hard time to believe he is the same person who directed one of the iconic Jodi Aarshi....i totally understand many actors are NOT comfortable doing certain scenes but it's the director's job is to make it look convincing using his creativity to manipulate audience

He did not .he was from channel... The creative head there was GUL and directors Lalit Mohan and Arshad Khan..Arshad Khan is directing Pandya now...and you can see the cinematography even after the crap they come up with..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Jo bhi ho.... Without Patralekha ka episode tha to maza aagaya 😌😌 Dil vich thandak peh gayi..!!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: msin


Yeah Sai is not Emon … and right now she again the brought her Abba ka comparison with virat .. that itself is a buzzkill .. one thing it is quite clear .. and they have shown clearly is Sai has not yet started thhking herself physically as his wife .. so to Show her clinging to him abd taking care for him will be a little too much .. why not.. well what yo do about it ..

Yes she hugs him .. yes she clings to him .. but all of it is in the affection category ..yes virat is attracted to Sai .. he always feel the buzz when she touches him .. but Sai has not yet felt it ..

I don’t think the taking care during fever scene was bad .. it was full of care and affection if not love .. why not love .. we can take a horse to the well but we can’t make him drink the water by force


Yes. Sai did not yet realise her feeling as love for him. She will when she miss him and hopefully get a flashback of her phycically intimate scenes with Virat. She may then realise and feel like a girl desperately in love with her man.
Edited by ltelidevara - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

Might be the unpopular opinion it seems, but I absolutely loved today's episode. Especially after an entire week of Pakhi overdose, today's episode was an absolute breath of fresh air.


Virat and Samrat's conversation was one of my favorite scenes of Ghum ever. I have many problems with Samrat, but he grounds his show in a way that no one else can. He is the only one who says what's in his mind and tolerates no BS, no jalebis from anyone. He knows when someone is lying, and he will call them out for it. So, Virat, again, tried to clarify everything to Samrat, but Samrat denied him the opportunity. While I was frustrated with Samrat's behavior at the beginning, I am understanding him more and more. He feels so deeply betrayed by the person who meant everything to him. It is only natural that it will take him some time to warm up. He is not as hurt by Pakhi, and that is why he has seemingly opened up to her quicker than he is to Virat. And even in his seeming "indifference" towards Virat, he could not see him in pain. He immediately grew concerned about his fever. Samrat is slowly melting towards Virat, and that was quite evident in today's episode.


Up until this point, Virat has been unwilling to accept his mistakes or acknowledge the mess that he has created. And no one has held him accountable. Today, Samrat did what has been pending for the past year. Just the fact that Virat calls Patralekha Pakhi is so wrong...and yet no one ever questioned it. Today, Samrat did. I can only hope that Virat reflects upon this, but the chances seem low seeing as he went back to calling her Pakhi in the same conversation. Virat told Samrat that his commitment to Pakhi had ended before Samrat's wedding, and Samrat asked the million dollar question- then why did he tell Sai this marriage was a deal? To this, Virat had no response. All along, Virat has known that his intentions are pure and he has done everything for Sai and Samrat's happiness... but he needs to understand that his actions have consequences beyond his own feelings. Virat, again, did not want to talk about Sai... because, he is still deeply hurt by what happened during the anniversary. But, for the first time, Sai's perspective has been laid out in front of him...not by Sai herself, but by Samrat. Again, it takes an outsider to see what is going on when a relationship has become this messy... Samrat is not only a pair of fresh eyes, but he also knows Virat better than anyone, and he also understands Sai's pain better than anyone. Samrat told Virat that he needs to look at things how Sai is seeing them... and again, Virat's response is that Sai's information is outdated... but how is Sai supposed to know that? Virat thinks his actions are enough, but Samrat tells him clearly that he needs to TELL Sai. Again, Virat is hurting right now, but something in his expression made clear that he is starting to realize that he needs to clarify this mess once and for all. Given his mental and physical condition, it won't happen tonight. But, the introspection from his end is also beginning it seems. Perhaps Sai misunderstanding his meeting with Pakhi will be the final trigger that gets him to reveal the truth once and for all. I loved how Samrat basically told Virat that he cannot run away from his problems... he has to face them. No matter how shattered Virat is, only he can solve the damage that has been done in his relationships.


Coming to the SaiRat scene.

***

I understand that many people are upset when we compare it to KD. But, leaving those expectations aside and focusing on just this show, I actually really loved it. Sai's introspection has begun in full force. She is trying desperately to figure out what is wrong with Virat. The second the doctor called, Sai's heart took over her brain. She went into full wife mode- again, Sai's heart has already accepted Virat as her husband... it is her mind that has put up walls to defend herself. When Virat told her that none of his business should matter to Sai, she, without hesitation said that she is his wife. She knows it. It is real to her. She just needs to fully accept it. And, like I have been saying- the roles have been reversed. She is now hiding behind the zimidari just like Virat previously was. She says she is his wife, and yet says that this is her zimidari... because, she is protecting herself and her vulnerabilities. She is using this word to justify the rights she feels she has over him.


Just like Sai is unable to see that what Virat does for her is out of love, Virat, too, today, misunderstood Sai's love for him as her sympathy. Again, this mess is both of their making. Neither one of them are understanding the other at this point. They are both unable to see past their own hurt and confusions, but that is slowly changing.


Sai tying Virat's hands was too cute. From this point on, this was the same SaiRat that we have known. Even though nothing is right between them, the basis of their relationship remains the same. Virat rolled his eyes at Sai's antics... he knew that he would not be able to win, so he gave in.


Today, Sai finally understood that Virat is upset about the anniversary. She was shocked to hear him speaking about it in such a cold manner. Right now, her priority is Virat's health...but I truly feel that she will reflect on this. Sai knows that Virat is leaving, and she is breaking inside. But, she was trying her best to keep herself composed. She cannot break down, because she has to take care of Virat. In this moment, she is suppressing all of her own pain, because Virat is the first and foremost for her. As long as he is okay, she can withstand anything.


Virat is trying everything in his power to be indifferent towards Sai, but it is not really working out for him. The way in which she begged him please please please let me take care of you... he melted entirely. His expression immediately softened up, and he obeyed her every order. The way in which he was startled when Sai put the cloth on him, but immediately became relaxed when he saw it was her showed that she is his safe space. He feels secure in her arms.


The most important dialogue in this entire scene was Sai telling Virat that she cannot see him sick just like she cannot see her abba sick. No, she was not saying that Virat is her abba to her... she was saying that Virat holds the spot that abba once held... that Virat is the most important person to her in this entire world. And Virat understood exactly what she meant, because at these words, he melted even more. Virat knows what abba meant to Sai, and for her to say this, meant the world to him...even in all of his pain and hurt.


The last bit about them joking about Sai's "two personalities" were very cute. It's like Virat forgot entirely that he was trying to distance himself. He agreed with her when she said that she loses it at times and becomes a monster...this is exactly what happened at the anniversary fight. And, at the end, he simply said "ok" and listened to her orders.... no matter how hard he tries, he will always give in to Sai. And, Sai realizes that Virat has been pained by her...that it hasn't been easy for him to live with her. All of her reflections have started...


Now....coming to the kiss 🤣 I wish the director would have at least TRIED to mask the fact that she kissed the air and not him. I blinked and missed the kiss entirely. It seemed kind of like a forced addition in the name of copy paste. All of this being said, I don't think that a long, emotional kiss would have fit the situation here. Virat has already melted towards Sai... had Sai become that emotional and kissed him, it would have made no sense for him to even try going back to his indifference in the morning. So, I am, in a way, glad that they made it a cute kiss instead...regardless of their reasons. For those saying that the kiss was platonic, I agree. But, it is Sai's intentions behind the kiss that matter more. She did not hesitate even for a second before kissing him. This shows that while the kiss was not a "wifey" one, she feels "wifey" rights over him. She feels that he is her own, so she can kiss him. Again, she is already his wife. Her mind just needs to accept it......

Beautiful analysis Pooja 🤩. Was waiting for your post 😬.


I agree with you today's episode was beautiful ❤️❤️. Loved Samrats straight forward talks with Virat and it's was like a breathe of fresh air seeing someone talk directly without hoping the other person would understand the hints and everything will be sorted out. I was also glad Samrat called out Virat for calling Patralekha Pakhi. I wish he starts calling her Patralekha or Vahini, I know it's too much to ask but it seems very odd now that everyone knows their so called story it's all the more weird. Samrat telling you were the one who told Sai about the Vaada and deal so you should be the one who should clear it aswell (seetiyaa seetiyaa 👏) . I was surprised Samrat also realized Virat was mad at Sai because of the Anni party. Can they keep this dude this sharp going forward too please 🥺. I literally fell off of the couch when Virat said Sais information is outdated😆, Matlab Kuch bhee, who is going to update her 🤣. But I will not hold this against him for today and hope he thinks over what Samrat told him so crystal clear .


Sais panic and wanting to take care of Virat was endearing. She cannot really see him suffering can she, it's also weird because its ok how much ever these 2 hurt eachother but the hurt shouldn't be from any 3rd entity 🤣. Virat literally melted like a stick of butter today first when she requested him to take rest and then when she confessed she cannot see him in pain just like her aaba . His tone seemed normal when talking to Sai on the bed. The kiss I loved it, the reason Sai was struggling to keep up the act of it's ok if you want to leave and she just wanted him to get better before he leaves , so him listening to all she was doing, she just gave a impromptu thank you kiss like we hug our friends.


Samrat, Virat and Sai all rocked today's episode. Samrats dialogues deserves so many seetiyaa . He is savage but caring at the same time


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Originally posted by: tptwi

Might be the unpopular opinion it seems, but I absolutely loved today's episode. Especially after an entire week of Pakhi overdose, today's episode was an absolute breath of fresh air.


Virat and Samrat's conversation was one of my favorite scenes of Ghum ever. I have many problems with Samrat, but he grounds his show in a way that no one else can. He is the only one who says what's in his mind and tolerates no BS, no jalebis from anyone. He knows when someone is lying, and he will call them out for it. So, Virat, again, tried to clarify everything to Samrat, but Samrat denied him the opportunity. While I was frustrated with Samrat's behavior at the beginning, I am understanding him more and more. He feels so deeply betrayed by the person who meant everything to him. It is only natural that it will take him some time to warm up. He is not as hurt by Pakhi, and that is why he has seemingly opened up to her quicker than he is to Virat. And even in his seeming "indifference" towards Virat, he could not see him in pain. He immediately grew concerned about his fever. Samrat is slowly melting towards Virat, and that was quite evident in today's episode.


Up until this point, Virat has been unwilling to accept his mistakes or acknowledge the mess that he has created. And no one has held him accountable. Today, Samrat did what has been pending for the past year. Just the fact that Virat calls Patralekha Pakhi is so wrong...and yet no one ever questioned it. Today, Samrat did. I can only hope that Virat reflects upon this, but the chances seem low seeing as he went back to calling her Pakhi in the same conversation. Virat told Samrat that his commitment to Pakhi had ended before Samrat's wedding, and Samrat asked the million dollar question- then why did he tell Sai this marriage was a deal? To this, Virat had no response. All along, Virat has known that his intentions are pure and he has done everything for Sai and Samrat's happiness... but he needs to understand that his actions have consequences beyond his own feelings. Virat, again, did not want to talk about Sai... because, he is still deeply hurt by what happened during the anniversary. But, for the first time, Sai's perspective has been laid out in front of him...not by Sai herself, but by Samrat. Again, it takes an outsider to see what is going on when a relationship has become this messy... Samrat is not only a pair of fresh eyes, but he also knows Virat better than anyone, and he also understands Sai's pain better than anyone. Samrat told Virat that he needs to look at things how Sai is seeing them... and again, Virat's response is that Sai's information is outdated... but how is Sai supposed to know that? Virat thinks his actions are enough, but Samrat tells him clearly that he needs to TELL Sai. Again, Virat is hurting right now, but something in his expression made clear that he is starting to realize that he needs to clarify this mess once and for all. Given his mental and physical condition, it won't happen tonight. But, the introspection from his end is also beginning it seems. Perhaps Sai misunderstanding his meeting with Pakhi will be the final trigger that gets him to reveal the truth once and for all. I loved how Samrat basically told Virat that he cannot run away from his problems... he has to face them. No matter how shattered Virat is, only he can solve the damage that has been done in his relationships.


Coming to the SaiRat scene.

***

I understand that many people are upset when we compare it to KD. But, leaving those expectations aside and focusing on just this show, I actually really loved it. Sai's introspection has begun in full force. She is trying desperately to figure out what is wrong with Virat. The second the doctor called, Sai's heart took over her brain. She went into full wife mode- again, Sai's heart has already accepted Virat as her husband... it is her mind that has put up walls to defend herself. When Virat told her that none of his business should matter to Sai, she, without hesitation said that she is his wife. She knows it. It is real to her. She just needs to fully accept it. And, like I have been saying- the roles have been reversed. She is now hiding behind the zimidari just like Virat previously was. She says she is his wife, and yet says that this is her zimidari... because, she is protecting herself and her vulnerabilities. She is using this word to justify the rights she feels she has over him.


Just like Sai is unable to see that what Virat does for her is out of love, Virat, too, today, misunderstood Sai's love for him as her sympathy. Again, this mess is both of their making. Neither one of them are understanding the other at this point. They are both unable to see past their own hurt and confusions, but that is slowly changing.


Sai tying Virat's hands was too cute. From this point on, this was the same SaiRat that we have known. Even though nothing is right between them, the basis of their relationship remains the same. Virat rolled his eyes at Sai's antics... he knew that he would not be able to win, so he gave in.


Today, Sai finally understood that Virat is upset about the anniversary. She was shocked to hear him speaking about it in such a cold manner. Right now, her priority is Virat's health...but I truly feel that she will reflect on this. Sai knows that Virat is leaving, and she is breaking inside. But, she was trying her best to keep herself composed. She cannot break down, because she has to take care of Virat. In this moment, she is suppressing all of her own pain, because Virat is the first and foremost for her. As long as he is okay, she can withstand anything.


Virat is trying everything in his power to be indifferent towards Sai, but it is not really working out for him. The way in which she begged him please please please let me take care of you... he melted entirely. His expression immediately softened up, and he obeyed her every order. The way in which he was startled when Sai put the cloth on him, but immediately became relaxed when he saw it was her showed that she is his safe space. He feels secure in her arms.


The most important dialogue in this entire scene was Sai telling Virat that she cannot see him sick just like she cannot see her abba sick. No, she was not saying that Virat is her abba to her... she was saying that Virat holds the spot that abba once held... that Virat is the most important person to her in this entire world. And Virat understood exactly what she meant, because at these words, he melted even more. Virat knows what abba meant to Sai, and for her to say this, meant the world to him...even in all of his pain and hurt.


The last bit about them joking about Sai's "two personalities" were very cute. It's like Virat forgot entirely that he was trying to distance himself. He agreed with her when she said that she loses it at times and becomes a monster...this is exactly what happened at the anniversary fight. And, at the end, he simply said "ok" and listened to her orders.... no matter how hard he tries, he will always give in to Sai. And, Sai realizes that Virat has been pained by her...that it hasn't been easy for him to live with her. All of her reflections have started...


Now....coming to the kiss 🤣 I wish the director would have at least TRIED to mask the fact that she kissed the air and not him. I blinked and missed the kiss entirely. It seemed kind of like a forced addition in the name of copy paste. All of this being said, I don't think that a long, emotional kiss would have fit the situation here. Virat has already melted towards Sai... had Sai become that emotional and kissed him, it would have made no sense for him to even try going back to his indifference in the morning. So, I am, in a way, glad that they made it a cute kiss instead...regardless of their reasons. For those saying that the kiss was platonic, I agree. But, it is Sai's intentions behind the kiss that matter more. She did not hesitate even for a second before kissing him. This shows that while the kiss was not a "wifey" one, she feels "wifey" rights over him. She feels that he is her own, so she can kiss him. Again, she is already his wife. Her mind just needs to accept it......


Yes I agree .. with this.. haven’t seen the whole episode but saw Sairat interaction …. They are thinking and hopefully will get there ..

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