And the heartbreak, angst continue - Page 4

Indeed, a full fledged episode for me too without any unwanted distraction!

You have so well captured the “Patralekha” bit. While the FD has been rooting for him to address her Vahini, its a known fact that it is not even a remote possibility. But I personally have always felt that the shift from Pakhi to Patralekha is very vital it drawing that much required boundary between these two. The rare ocassions that he has addressed her with her full name had affected her. But the fact that no1 in the family, even her husband doesn’t call her by her pet name, gives a wrong signal considering the complicated and sensitive dynamics. And for Samrat who is still trying to accept the past between them, it is natural to doubt and feel offended.

I liked the Sairat scene today as well. The entire mood of the scene was different from KD. She was trying to playful hiding her sorrow. So no complaints there as the treatment was different and I didn’t want to compare here.

My only bone of contention though- I had zero expectations after the precap being run since last 2days. And guess what they didn’t disappoint, they were as bad as I had assumed if not more in the precap😠. Why did they even have to show that kiss?? It was like a forced scene, as if they had a check list for copying from KD, and this happened to be one up there. And yes to show the carrot to the audience for the various reason!! (Competition, upcoming sequence etc). It just didn't fit in the whole scene. I don’t know what the makers are thinking of us and out expectations from the show🤷‍♀️

I kinda liked the episode. There was some depth to the scenes like olden times. I am liking Samrat more and more everyday. All the three have done today's scenes well. My conclusion is makers don't want to give any hardcore romance between Sai and Virat. I wonder why?😒Even after the confession I really feel they may not indulge much in Sairat romance.I think I will skip the coming episodes bcos it is going to be Pakhi centric and I just cannot tolerate her. The coming scenes are supposed to be powerful ,but she is going to spoil it big time definitely.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Might be the unpopular opinion it seems, but I absolutely loved today's episode. Especially after an entire week of Pakhi overdose, today's episode was an absolute breath of fresh air.

Virat and Samrat's conversation was one of my favorite scenes of Ghum ever. I have many problems with Samrat, but he grounds his show in a way that no one else can. He is the only one who says what's in his mind and tolerates no BS, no jalebis from anyone. He knows when someone is lying, and he will call them out for it. So, Virat, again, tried to clarify everything to Samrat, but Samrat denied him the opportunity. While I was frustrated with Samrat's behavior at the beginning, I am understanding him more and more. He feels so deeply betrayed by the person who meant everything to him. It is only natural that it will take him some time to warm up. He is not as hurt by Pakhi, and that is why he has seemingly opened up to her quicker than he is to Virat. And even in his seeming "indifference" towards Virat, he could not see him in pain. He immediately grew concerned about his fever. Samrat is slowly melting towards Virat, and that was quite evident in today's episode.

Up until this point, Virat has been (subconsciously) unwilling to accept his mistakes or acknowledge the mess that he has created. Or rather, he has been too into his own emotions to be able to look at this "4 zindagi" situation from anyone's perspective but his own. And no one has held him accountable. Today, Samrat did what has been pending for the past year. Just the fact that Virat calls Patralekha Pakhi is so wrong from a 3rd person's perspective...and yet no one ever questioned it. Today, Samrat did. I can only hope that Virat reflects upon this, but the chances seem low seeing as he went back to calling her Pakhi in the same conversation. Virat told Samrat that his commitment to Pakhi had ended before Samrat's wedding, and Samrat asked the million dollar question- then why did he tell Sai this marriage was a deal? To this, Virat had no response. All along, Virat has known that his intentions are pure and he has done everything for Sai and Samrat's happiness... but he needs to understand that his actions (or actually in this case, WORDS) have consequences beyond his own feelings. Virat, again, did not want to talk about Sai... because, he is still deeply hurt by what happened during the anniversary. But, for the first time, Sai's perspective has been laid out in front of him...not by Sai herself, but by Samrat. Again, it takes an outsider to see what is going on when a relationship has become this messy... Samrat is not only a pair of fresh eyes, but he also knows Virat better than anyone, and he also understands Sai's pain better than anyone. Samrat told Virat that he needs to look at things how Sai is seeing them... and again, Virat's response is that Sai's information is outdated... but how is Sai supposed to know that? Virat thinks his actions are enough, but Samrat tells him clearly that he needs to TELL Sai. Again, Virat is hurting right now, but something in his expression made clear that he is starting to realize that he needs to clarify this mess once and for all. Given his mental and physical condition, it won't happen tonight. But, the introspection from his end is also beginning it seems. Perhaps Sai misunderstanding his meeting with Pakhi will be the final trigger that gets him to reveal the truth once and for all. I loved how Samrat basically told Virat that he cannot run away from his problems... he has to face them. No matter how shattered Virat is, only he can solve the damage that has been done in his relationships.

Coming to the SaiRat scene.

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I understand that many people are upset when we compare it to KD. But, leaving those expectations aside and focusing on just this show, I actually really loved it. Sai's introspection has begun in full force. She is trying desperately to figure out what is wrong with Virat. The second the doctor called, Sai's heart took over her brain. She went into full wife mode- again, Sai's heart has already accepted Virat as her husband... it is her mind that has put up walls to defend herself. When Virat told her that none of his business should matter to Sai, she, without hesitation said that she is his wife. She knows it. It is real to her. She just needs to fully accept it. And, like I have been saying- the roles have been reversed. She is now hiding behind the zimidari just like Virat previously was. She says she is his wife, and yet says that this is her zimidari... because, she is protecting herself and her vulnerabilities. She is using this word to justify the rights she feels she has over him.

Just like Sai is unable to see that what Virat does for her is out of love, Virat, too, today, misunderstood Sai's love for him as her sympathy. Again, this mess is both of their making. Neither one of them are understanding the other at this point. They are both unable to see past their own hurt and confusions, but that is slowly changing.

Sai tying Virat's hands was too cute. From this point on, this was the same SaiRat that we have known. Even though nothing is right between them, the basis of their relationship remains the same. Virat rolled his eyes at Sai's antics... he knew that he would not be able to win, so he gave in.

Today, Sai finally understood that Virat is upset about the anniversary. She was shocked to hear him speaking about it in such a cold manner. Right now, her priority is Virat's health...but I truly feel that she will reflect on this. Sai knows that Virat is leaving, and she is breaking inside. But, she was trying her best to keep herself composed. She cannot break down, because she has to take care of Virat. In this moment, she is suppressing all of her own pain, because Virat is the first and foremost for her. As long as he is okay, she can withstand anything.

Virat is trying everything in his power to be indifferent towards Sai, but it is not really working out for him. The way in which she begged him please please please let me take care of you... he melted entirely. His expression immediately softened up, and he obeyed her every order. The way in which he was startled when Sai put the cloth on him, but immediately became relaxed when he saw it was her showed that she is his safe space. He feels secure in her arms.

The most important dialogue in this entire scene was Sai telling Virat that she cannot see him sick just like she cannot see her abba sick. No, she was not saying that Virat is her abba to her... she was saying that Virat holds the spot that abba once held... that Virat is the most important person to her in this entire world. And Virat understood exactly what she meant, because at these words, he melted even more. Virat knows what abba meant to Sai, and for her to say this, meant the world to him...even in all of his pain and hurt.

The last bit about them joking about Sai's "two personalities" were very cute. It's like Virat forgot entirely that he was trying to distance himself. He agreed with her when she said that she loses it at times and becomes a monster...this is exactly what happened at the anniversary fight. And, at the end, he simply said "ok" and listened to her orders.... no matter how hard he tries, he will always give in to Sai. And, Sai realizes that Virat has been pained by her...that it hasn't been easy for him to live with her. All of her reflections have started...

Now....coming to the kiss 🤣 I wish the director would have at least TRIED to mask the fact that she kissed the air and not him. I blinked and missed the kiss entirely. It seemed kind of like a forced addition in the name of copy paste. All of this being said, I don't think that a long, emotional kiss would have fit the situation here. Virat has already melted towards Sai... had Sai become that emotional and kissed him, it would have made no sense for him to even try going back to his indifference in the morning. So, I am, in a way, glad that they made it a cute kiss instead...regardless of their reasons. For those saying that the kiss was platonic, I agree. But, it is Sai's intentions behind the kiss that matter more. She did not hesitate even for a second before kissing him. This shows that while the kiss was not a "wifey" one, she feels "wifey" rights over him. She feels that he is her own, so she can kiss him. Again, she is already his wife. Her mind just needs to accept it......

Loved your analysis so much. ❤️I felt pretty much the same way as you did and you have covered every little detail.

A truly good episode after a long time.

Agree 100% regarding Virat-Samrat conversation. I loved it too. And I love Samrat's intelligence, his ability to read people, his assertiveness and most importantly his straight talking. Samrat probably entered CN when he was 12 or 13. That has saved him from being a mess or lacking in intelligence..unlike the other sane Chavans. It has always been my grouse that nobody questions Virat on his friendship with Pakhi or put forth Sai's feelings regarding said friendship. So I'm rejoicing.

I was curious about one thing - how Virat refered to Pakhi as Patralekha when he was talking to Samrat. Where did this sudden lightbulb come from? So somwhere he knows that it is inappropriate? What prevented him from addressing her as such all these months - taking Sai's tolerance for granted? I agree he did not have any ill-intention, but he was very careless. He does slip into Pakhi again - aadat se majboor.

I will believe your prediction for my own sanity - that Virat will be triggered to introspect after this.

Also very telling was Virat's psychology during the conversation. Virat cannot bear rejection - a trait we see in his relationship with Sai too - and Samrat's coldness and anger is killing him. He was like a child begging to be forgiven. He did want to clear every MU between them and become buddies once again. This entire situation is too overwhelming for a man like Virat - he is simply feeling too helpless and therefore decided to shut himself off ..because he cannot bear it. Samrat explaining Sai's POV and advising him that running away from problems will not solve anything - he needs such gentle counsel. Unfortunately, the only person who can help him in his problems with Samrat is Sai and the only person who can help him with his situation with Sai is Samrat...and both of them are in a different emotional space. I do feel bad for him.

Thankfully, they are showing Sai to have an inkling that Virat's indifference may be related to the anniversary. But I felt so sad for her today. She is trying hard to remain stoic. Even before Virat entered the room, Sai was trying to be her usual chirpy self...as if forcibly trying to accept Virat's imminent departure from her life. Virat's indifference was breaking her inside...but she was controlling all her emotions...because her worry had overtaken her pain. To me, her self-deprecating dialogue seemed to be an earnest attempt at an apology...they are not speaking about it openly....this was her way if trying to accept her mistake. 😭. I didn't understand the purpose of her kiss though....what was she trying to convey?

Virat's mindset is becoming clearer - that his coldness is not ego but a defence mechanism to protect his heart. Two of his dialogues are evidence - him saying that he doesn't want to think what Sai feels for him and he wants to be left in peace - even at the cost of suppressing his feelings. And I also noticed that he registered Sai comparing him to her aaba. After the kiss...that yearning in his eyes.

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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Trying to tag....

See my previous post....

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tagging for Nethra!

Nethra- let me know if you want to tag others-- I tagged your usual 😊

Yaha main kiss ka mazak uda rahi hun..or tum dono mujhe majboor kar rahe ho dekhne k liye !!

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Loved your analysis so much. ❤️I felt pretty much the same way as you did and you have covered every little detail.

A truly good episode after a long time.

Agree 100% regarding Virat-Samrat conversation. I loved it too. And I love Samrat's intelligence, his ability to read people, his assertiveness and most importantly his straight talking. Samrat probably entered CN when he was 12 or 13. That has saved him from being a mess or lacking in intelligence..unlike the other sane Chavans. It has always been my grouse that nobody questions Virat on his friendship with Pakhi or put forth Sai's feelings regarding said friendship. So I'm rejoicing.

I was curious about one thing - how Virat refered to Pakhi as Patralekha when he was talking to Samrat. Where did this sudden lightbulb come from? So somwhere he knows that it is inappropriate? What prevented him from addressing her as such all these months - taking Sai's tolerance for granted? I agree he did not have any ill-intention, but he was very careless. He does slip into Pakhi again - aadat se majboor.

I will believe your prediction for my own sanity - that Virat will be triggered to introspect after this.

Also very telling was Virat's psychology during the conversation. Virat cannot bear rejection - a trait we see in his relationship with Sai too - and Samrat's coldness and anger is killing him. He was like a child begging to be forgiven. He did want to clear every MU between them and become buddies once again. This entire situation is too overwhelming for a man like Virat - he is simply feeling too helpless and therefore decided to shut himself off ..because he cannot bear it. Samrat explaining Sai's POV and advising him that running away from problems will not solve anything - he needs such gentle counsel. Unfortunately, the only person who can help him in his problems with Samrat is Sai and the only person who can help him with his situation with Sai is Samrat...and both of them are in a different emotional space. I do feel bad for him.

Thankfully, they are showing Sai to have an inkling that Virat's indifference may be related to the anniversary. But I felt so sad for her today. She is trying hard to remain stoic. Even before Virat entered the room, Sai was trying to be her usual chirpy self...as if forcibly trying to accept Virat's imminent departure from her life. Virat's indifference was breaking her inside...but she was controlling all her emotions...because her worry had overtaken her pain. To me, her self-deprecating dialogue seemed to be an earnest attempt at an apology...they are not speaking about it openly....this was her way if trying to accept her mistake. 😭. I didn't understand the purpose of her kiss though....what was she trying to convey?

Virat's mindset is becoming clearer - that his coldness is not ego but a defence mechanism to protect his heart. Two of his dialogues are evidence - him saying that he doesn't want to think what Sai feels for him and he wants to be left in peace - even at the cost of suppressing his feelings. And I also noticed that he registered Sai comparing him to her aaba. After the kiss...that yearning in his eyes.

Love everything you have said here, Nethra. You have described Virat's mental state so well. I couldn't agree more...especially about the ego bit (as you know I keep saying like a broken record 🤣)

In terms of Sai's kiss- to me, it was a reaction to Virat saying "ok" in his usual soft tone towards her. I saw her face light up after he responded to her in that manner. After appearing so indifferent and harsh towards her, just one word from her Virat Sir was enough to make her burst with happiness. I think she got carried away in her emotions and that was how she expressed her relief at having the Virat she knows back...even if it was just for a second. And, the fact that her immediate instinct to express these emotions was to kiss him, to me, showed that she feels a haq over him. I agree with many others that the kiss was platonic.. but she didn't even think twice before kissing him. This in itself is an indication of how she feels... she feels as though she has this right over him.. it was her instincts almost. Again, her heart has already accepted him as her husband...

I found it interesting too how Virat called Pakhi Patralekha, but I am unsure if it is because a light bulb has gone off for him. Because, he went right back to calling her Pakhi, and he will also be going on the coffee date-which to me, is the greatest indication, yet again, that he is going to be blindly following his own emotions, not even considering this entire situation from Sai nor Samrat's perspective. Perhaps him calling her by her full name was his attempt to distance himself from her and prevent Samrat from misunderstanding him, but without actually understanding that it is inappropriate for him to be addressing her by this nickname in the first place.... Or more likely (to me) is that he was addressing her by her full name simply because he knows that is how Samrat addresses her.

I was curious about one thing - how Virat refered to Pakhi as Patralekha when he was talking to Samrat. Where did this sudden lightbulb come from? So somwhere he knows that it is inappropriate?

I thought this way too.. but then I changed my mind, may be he felt that Sammy calls her Patralekha so he must refer her as Patralekha in front of him..

Or simply he wanted to avoid more conflict by showing off his closeness to Pakhi..

I will go with you now..

Wished this light bulb glowed for some more time and he avoided Didi’s date request thinking it would hurt Sai and Sammy more if they come to know about this somehow..

Looks like Ghajini Chavan took over🤣

Originally posted by: tptwi

Love everything you have said here, Nethra. You have described Virat's mental state so well. I couldn't agree more...especially about the ego bit (as you know I keep saying like a broken record )

In terms of Sai's kiss- to me, it was a reaction to Virat saying "ok" in his usual soft tone towards her. I saw her face light up after he responded to her in that manner. After appearing so indifferent and harsh towards her, just one word from her Virat Sir was enough to make her burst with happiness. I think she got carried away in her emotions and that was how she expressed her relief at having the Virat she knows back...even if it was just for a second. And, the fact that her immediate instinct to express these emotions was to kiss him, to me, showed that she feels a haq over him. I agree with many others that the kiss was platonic.. but she didn't even think twice before kissing him. This in itself is an indication of how she feels... she feels as though she has this right over him.. it was her instincts almost. Again, her heart has already accepted him as her husband...

I watched the scene again....wow! your interpretation 👌

I found it interesting too how Virat called Pakhi Patralekha, but I am unsure if it is because a light bulb has gone off for him. Because, he went right back to calling her Pakhi, and he will also be going on the coffee date-which to me, is the greatest indication, yet again, that he is going to be blindly following his own emotions, not even considering this entire situation from Sai nor Samrat's perspective. Perhaps him calling her by her full name was his attempt to distance himself from her and prevent Samrat from misunderstanding him, but without actually understanding that it is inappropriate for him to be addressing her by this nickname in the first place.... Or more likely (to me) is that he was addressing her by her full name simply because he knows that is how Samrat addresses her.

Yeah confusing banda. He is going on a coffee date with vahini, so doesn't look like he has realised his error.