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Posted: 4 years ago
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You can take it back once the cafe kaand happens 🤣

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Originally posted by: tptwi

I had made a post after Saturday's episode regarding Sai and Samrat's conversation and wanted to continue it here... today was honestly one of the best episodes of Ghum in my opinion. Ayesha and Yogi's dynamic is amazing to see. They have such a comfort and ease with each other, and it comes across so well on screen. Yogi also brings a depth to scenes... a certain calmness and poetic way of delivering his dialogues. I did not like him at first, but he is improving with every single scene.

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Samrat is able to look at SaiRat's relationship with fresh eyes. He is not an emotional wreck as both Sai and Virat have become, and neither is he someone from CN who has witnessed their relationship for the past year. He is someone who is looking at the entire situation from a new perspective....and yet, he knows Virat better than anyone else and seems to understand Sai better than anyone else already- not only because he relates to her pain, but also because he is the only one in that entire house who listens. And when I say listen, I don't mean just hearing what the other person is saying. He listens with not just his hears, but also his eyes, heart, and mind. And, that is why today- he saw right through both Virat and Sai. It is seeming quite clear that he will become a driving force in Sai's realization and SaiRat's ultimate union.


Once again, Sai's feelings were clearer than ever before. This entire conversation has been a much needed insight into Sai's heart that the audience was previously missing. She clearly states that she cannot have any expectations from a relationship that is fake. Once again, she is trying to save herself from heart break. She is refusing to let herself believe in the reality of this relationship, no matter how real it seems to her, because in her mind, Virat is someone else's. And today, Sai essentially acknowledged that she knows this relationship is more than a deal. She told Samrat that it would be a lie if she said there is nothing in between her and Virat- he does everything for her, shows her the right way, and she respects him more than anyone else. She knows this relationship is not just a deal, and yet, she cannot label it as that of husband and wife, because her mind won't let her... when that is all her heart wants. The way she said this is just a deal and sniffed away her tears- she was trying so hard to convince herself. She was trying so hard to hide her vulnerabilities- this deal has become the shield she is hiding behind to protect her heart.


And once again, today, Sai said that she knows Virat is a man of his word, so he will keep all of his vaadas. Despite all of his actions through which she can feel his love, she needs verbal affirmation. She already places emphasis on words, and Virat is someone she knows stays true to his. Little does she know that this man's words are more impulsive than her's.... she needs clarification from him. All she wants is for him to choose her. Not even confess his love... she needs him to clarify the past and end the vaada... and she will finally be able to let down her walls.


When Virat heard Sai's words, he said that he made the right decision not to confess and now he might never be able to. Again, the same pattern is repeating itself. He is too engulfed in his own emotions to see past Sai's defense mechanisms. He thinks that Sai has already made up her mind...that there is no point left to any of this. He was already broken before, but he is even more broken now. The way he was trying to interject into the conversation and correct her misconceptions was truly so sad.


It was nice to see that Samrat was so open with Sai about his own feelings. He knows that she will be able to understand his pain, so he was comfortable sharing it with her. However, even then, Sai stood firmly in defense of Virat. She told Samrat that Virat has never crossed the line with Pakhi, and always kept his distance. Again, Sai knows the integrity of Virat. She never intended to call him a 2 timer regardless of how harsh her words were during their fight. All she wanted to know was that she is the only one in his heart, not Pakhi...and yet, her brashness cost her that opportunity.


The most touching dialogue to me from today's episode was when Samrat told Sai that she does have a right to speak up in matters despite her age- that her words show how mature she is. That she does have a place in this house. Sai has been told time and time again that she is immature and does not have a place to speak up, and Samrat is the first person to tell her otherwise. Despite the fact that these two have only known each other for a few days, they are already becoming each other's support systems.


Samrat at this point already knew that Virat loves Sai. He asked her why else Virat would take her on this anniversary trip if the marriage wasn't real...and Sai point blank said that she is confused about this too. What hurt her most was that he kept it a secret... because to her, that made the relationship less real. She wants him to recognize her as his wife in front of the world... and again, if this relationship is real, why isn't Virat just telling her? To top this off, she still believes that Pakhi is still in his heart, because he has never really told her otherwise. Samrat defending Virat here and saying that Virat would not do this to 2 women shows that even in his hurt and in his pain, he knows his brother and will defend him. Virat was so broken at this, because again, to him, Sai never let him finish what he was trying to say... since all of her insecurities and defenses exploded in his face....


Samrat telling Sai that commitments don't last forever and people and feelings can change was the first step in him making Sai realize her own feelings and look at things from Virat's perspective. Again, he is the person that Sai has been needing all along....


The Sai-Samrat-Virat scene was truly beautiful. Virat is drowning in his own guilt so much so that he told Samrat he is not even worthy of talking to him. But, he still wants to explain himself... and yet, Samrat refused to listen, because he still needs time. I was annoyed that he shut Virat down, but after a year of not seeing Virat, all of his emotions have been reawakened. It is clear how much he still loves Virat, but he needs some time for the intense feelings of betrayal to subdue...


The most painful moment of the episode was obviously Virat announcing his transfer. He is trying so hard to be indifferent towards Sai, but you could tell that him telling her this news was breaking him more than it was breaking her. It is taking everything in his entire being to act this way with her. And, the way in which Sai was taken aback when he told her that there is nothing in between them for him to have to tell her or ask for permission- she was expecting him to go back to normal after the fight.... this is the first time that Virat has ever acted this way with her. From day one of their marriage, she was never just a zimidari to him... she will finally be forced to reckon with Virat's feelings and his perspective. Her realization is just now beginning... and it will be a beautiful yet shattering journey...


Once Sai leaves the room, Virat breaks down- and in that moment, Samrat becomes certain that Virat is in love... even in his pain towards Sai, Virat cannot fathom acting this way towards her... and more so than that, he cannot fathom leaving her...


Sai once again defended Virat to Samrat in the hallway. She told him how much Virat missed him and prayed for his return. Sai knows how deeply Virat loves Samrat and she will do everything she can to repair this bond. Her speaking about feeling so alone in the house and not having anyone was so painful to hear. All of these people in CN are Virat's family, not her's... the only person who she truly believes to be entirely her's (even if subconsciously) is Virat, and now he is moving away from her too... Virat has the place of her abba in her life... and the bittersweetness of her dialogue of just wanting 1 person to love her unconditionally was that she already has the person who would give up everything for her... she just can't accept it yet.... but, Samrat telling her that he will always be there for her was heart-touching. In Samrat, Sai has someone who truly looks at her like his sister irrespective of Virat's relationship to her......

What a beautiful episode 😍 and beautiful analysis 😍. I got teary eyed in so many scenes today 😭. The 3 of them elevated the episode with their screen presence and such controlled acting 🤩 and Sai samrat are my new favorites 😍😍.


You covered everything beautifully will just highlight a few things I loved loved which is difficult considering I loved every scene 😬


- Sai gulping down her tears and saying inspite of all the care it's just a deal and she know he will keep his vaada.

- Virats nuance when Sai says I can't deny there are no other feeling between us. Neil was so good in that micro second when he gets hopeful again 👏.

- Another master stroke by Samrat was when he says tumaare Virat Sir Nye and Sai doesn't even blink and goes on to respond about the Vaada. He was trying to asses her feeling and he figured out Sai aswell.

- Samrat telling no one can lead a life on commitment which is a bhoj. These are the exact words which Virat told Pakhi after coming back from GC 👏. Sai seemed taken aback when Samrat says this and loved the way Ayesha enacted this scene and how her body moves back a little 👏👏

- Sai and Samrat defending Virat to eachother inspite of everything happening around them 👏. Virat is seriously lucky to have these 2 in his life (I know inspite of all the mess they are in right now 🤣) who love him dearly.

- Samrat trying to dig into Sais brain to try and figure what she thinks of her realtionship with Virat. This is a master stroke. Finally someone who is a outsider to their relationship like you said but clearly sees Virat is so in love with Sai and Sai though she loves Virat is stuck on the Vaada. He saw how they were hurting eachother and crying 😭. I agree with you, he seems to be the one who might try to dig into Sais brain further to make her understand Virats feelings.

- Sai not defending Pakhi and telling I need to stay out of this and you 3 should discuss and ask Pakhi what she wants👏. I want Sai to stand by these words.

- Samrat still worring his relationship with Patralekha will effect Virat and he doesn't want to ruin Virats life. Why do I get the feeling he is going to give his marriage a try just so Pakhi doesn't ruin Sai and Virats life 🤔.

- Virat telling about the transfer and Sai and Samrats instant reaction was very well done. Neither of them expected this turn of events. The way Samrat was looking back and forth between sai and Virat hearing their countering dialogues which was not matching with the expressions on their faces😭.

- Sai leaving the room teary eyed and Virat crying. Samrat is 100% sure Virat loves Sai in this scene and it was very well shot again 👏.

- Sai telling how she feels lonely in the house since no one cares if she is in the house or not and wishes she had 1 person in her life who loves her as much as the family loves him was heartbreaking. Only if she knew how much Virat love her 😢. Loved Samrats dialogue of him being always there for her. I have always loved mohit and Sai bond but sai and Samrats bond seems so surreal considering they just met.

- Samrat wanting to ask for forgiveness from Manasi, finally


Precap was love and Ayesha deserves this😍😍


Yogi is really growing on me and I loved his dialogue delivery and screen presence. Sai Samrat and SaiRat with Samrat scenes were amazing 👏. I am really crossing my fingers they keep Samrat character strong and don't make him go mute or silly like pulkit.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Joey waala sorry 🤣. Do you think Vaanku would understand this considering he likes Didi waala politician waala sorry 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

What a beautiful episode 😍 and beautiful analysis 😍. I got teary eyed in so many scenes today 😭. The 3 of them elevated the episode with their screen presence and such controlled acting 🤩 and Sai samrat are my new favorites 😍😍.


You covered everything beautifully will just highlight a few things I loved loved which is difficult considering I loved every scene 😬


- Sai gulping down her tears and saying inspite of all the care it's just a deal and she know he will keep his vaada.

- Virats nuance when Sai says I can't deny there are no other feeling between us. Neil was so good in that micro second when he gets hopeful again 👏.

- Another master stroke by Samrat was when he says tumaare Virat Sir Nye and Sai doesn't even blink and goes on to respond about the Vaada. He was trying to asses her feeling and he figured out Sai aswell.

- Samrat telling no one can lead a life on commitment which is a bhoj. These are the exact words which Virat told Pakhi after coming back from GC 👏. Sai seemed taken aback when Samrat says this and loved the way Ayesha enacted this scene and how her body moves back a little 👏👏

- Sai and Samrat defending Virat to eachother inspite of everything happening around them 👏. Virat is seriously lucky to have these 2 in his life (I know inspite of all the mess they are in right now 🤣) who love him dearly.

- Samrat trying to dig into Sais brain to try and figure what she thinks of her realtionship with Virat. This is a master stroke. Finally someone who is a outsider to their relationship like you said but clearly sees Virat is so in love with Sai and Sai though she loves Virat is stuck on the Vaada. He saw how they were hurting eachother and crying 😭. I agree with you, he seems to be the one who might try to dig into Sais brain further to make her understand Virats feelings.

- Sai not defending Pakhi and telling I need to stay out of this and you 3 should discuss and ask Pakhi what she wants👏. I want Sai to stand by these words.

- Samrat still worring his relationship with Patralekha will effect Virat and he doesn't want to ruin Virats life. Why do I get the feeling he is going to give his marriage a try just so Pakhi doesn't ruin Sai and Virats life 🤔.

- Virat telling about the transfer and Sai and Samrats instant reaction was very well done. Neither of them expected this turn of events. The way Samrat was looking back and forth between sai and Virat hearing their countering dialogues which was not matching with the expressions on their faces😭.

- Sai leaving the room teary eyed and Virat crying. Samrat is 100% sure Virat loves Sai in this scene and it was very well shot again 👏.

- Sai telling how she feels lonely in the house since no one cares if she is in the house or not and wishes she had 1 person in her life who loves her as much as the family loves him was heartbreaking. Only if she knew how much Virat love her 😢. Loved Samrats dialogue of him being always there for her. I have always loved mohit and Sai bond but sai and Samrats bond seems so surreal considering they just met.

- Samrat wanting to ask for forgiveness from Manasi, finally


Precap was love and Ayesha deserves this😍😍


Yogi is really growing on me and I loved his dialogue delivery and screen presence. Sai Samrat and SaiRat with Samrat scenes were amazing 👏. I am really crossing my fingers they keep Samrat character strong and don't make him go mute or silly like pulkit.


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@bolded: This scene was so well-done. Honestly one of the best executed scenes that we have had in recent times! It was evident that both Sai and Virat were broken and yet they were trying their best to appear as if they don't care to one and another. Both of them were too emotionally devastated to see through each other's facades, but Samrat noticed it all....


Also yes to Samrat calling Virat "tumare Virat Sir" to Sai!! It was just such a precious moment.... her heart has accepted him as fully her's no matter how hard her mind is pushing back...and that is why his indifference (or attempts at indifference) are going to break her so deeply....


I also love the other moments you have pointed out! The little nuances and details made the episode today!!


It is so heartbreaking to see the parallels of Virat asking Sai's permission to go on the mission/her trying to stop him vs. the transfer now, and also Virat telling Sai she cannot leave their bedroom vs. him telling her he doesn't care now... already, Sai is breaking so rapidly, and she is desperately trying to get a reaction out of him...and he is desperately trying not to give one.....


I had written this after you already quoted by post, but it's beautifully ironic how up until this point, Virat has been entirely vulnerable and Sai has had her walls up. But, now, it will be Virat putting up his walls that finally allows Sai to lower her own...

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Loved your analysis ❤️

You have covered almost everything..

I loved Sammy and Sai's bonding too..

Sammy is finally a person who does n't relate age to maturity.. as the experts believe maturity comes with experience and not with age..

Sammy did not show that maturity while denying to listen to Virat's side.. I agree, he felt betrayed and it was 1000 times worst because the betrayer was his own brother, whom he trusted the most.. I think he had enough time to think for the past year and he should be willing to listen to his side of the story. Every coin has two sides and so does every phone conversation. I wish Samrat starts thinking more in terms of Why?? than in terms of who and What??

If Virat's intentions were really to betray Samrat and never had any intentions of two timing.. Why did he hide that Pakhi was the girl he loved?

Virat trying to be indifferent is good..

PaKu milan and hug were the highlight of the day 😂😂😂

I liked how Kaku said she would support Pakhi's every decision.. I mean wah wah.. she wouldnt support their son's claims.. nor his decision.. wont even try to understand the reasons behind his accusations, but will support this glycerin factory no matter what.. Love is blind🤣🤣

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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Nice analysis. I am still missing some piece to complete the puzzle . Why is Sai not remembering the below three incidents. Why is she giving importance to what was said during marriage but not the recent ones ?


1. Virat said he is no longer committed to anyone .

2. Virat admitted he likes her a lot after birthday party

3. He has asked Sai for a chance to make this marriage a real one instead of deal .


Is she having trouble accepting that unlike movies love can happen again ( she believes it was love between Virakhi) ?

I don't think she even recalls any of these at the moment or even if she recalls she may not be weighing much on these dialogues. Sais brain is too clouded with the deal and Vaada which Virat said during the wedding. All she wants are clears words from him this marriage is not a deal, she will be his wife forever and she can expect anything from him as her husband. I don't think she believes Virat loves Pakhi else she wouldn't have asked Samrat to stay back.

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Originally posted by: tptwi

You can take it back once the cafe kaand happens 🤣

That's why as precaution my "sorry" was within air quotes 😈

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Originally posted by: Amor_fati

Loved your analysis ❤️

You have covered almost everything..

I loved Sammy and Sai's bonding too..

Sammy is finally a person who does n't relate age to maturity.. as the experts believe maturity comes with experience and not with age..

Sammy did not show that maturity while denying to listen to Virat's side.. I agree, he felt betrayed and it was 1000 times worst because the betrayer was his own brother, whom he trusted the most.. I think he had enough time to think for the past year and he should be willing to listen to his side of the story. Every coin has two sides and so does every phone conversation. I wish Samrat starts thinking more in terms of Why?? than in terms of who and What??

If Virat's intentions were really to betray Samrat and never had any intentions of two timing.. Why did he hide that Pakhi was the girl he loved?

Virat trying to be indifferent is good..

PaKu milan and hug were the highlight of the day 😂😂😂

I liked how Kaku said she would support Pakhi's every decision.. I mean wah wah.. she wouldnt support their son's claims.. nor his decision.. wont even try to understand the reasons behind his accusations, but will support this glycerin factory no matter what.. Love is blind🤣🤣

@bold I disagree here. Yes he had 1 year but there was never a closure to his pain since he was running away from the confrontation and pain. He clearly said today he didn't understand what to do after he heard the phone conversation and how hurt he was.

Inspite of all the hurt he was worried for Virat and defended him infront of Sai , so it's clear he needs time to figure things out and listen to Virats side of the story.

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Originally posted by: Rdigest

I don't think she even recalls any of these at the moment or even if she recalls she may not be weighing much on these dialogues. Sais brain is too clouded with the deal and Vaada which Virat said during the wedding. All she wants are clears words from him this marriage is not a deal, she will be his wife forever and she can expect anything from him as her husband. I don't think she believes Virat loves Pakhi else she wouldn't have asked Samrat to stay back.

@bolded: I think her main reason for asking Samrat to stay back is for Virat...regardless of what those implications might be for any 4 of them. Even today, she was defending Virat by saying he has always kept his distance from Pakhi and that he has yearned for Samrat to return for every single day of the past year. She will do anything for shiva to reunite with his jeeva. She cannot see Virat in pain, and she knows that Samrat means the world to him. I agree that she does not necessarily believe that Virat loves Pakhi, but she is unsure whether Pakhi still has a spot in his heart or not. That is why she asked him to choose one or the other, and that is again why today, she told Samrat that she is confused about the anniversary trip since Virat already has someone else in his heart. She can sense this is not the case, because Virat's actions make it clear that Sai is the only one in his life. But, the past is still looming down on her. This fear has become magnified for her with Samrat's return, because she is worried that if Samrat sets Pakhi free, then that might mean that Virat and Pakhi will be reunited. But, her insecurities arise not out of Virat's behavior, but rather Pakhi's, and now Samrat's return. In all of this mess, all she wants is for Virat to explicitly make clear that this relationship is real, he regrets making the vaada, and that Pakhi is no one to him. She just wants reassurance that the past truly is in the past.

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amor_fati

Loved your analysis ❤️

You have covered almost everything..

I loved Sammy and Sai's bonding too..

Sammy is finally a person who does n't relate age to maturity.. as the experts believe maturity comes with experience and not with age..

Sammy did not show that maturity while denying to listen to Virat's side.. I agree, he felt betrayed and it was 1000 times worst because the betrayer was his own brother, whom he trusted the most.. I think he had enough time to think for the past year and he should be willing to listen to his side of the story. Every coin has two sides and so does every phone conversation. I wish Samrat starts thinking more in terms of Why?? than in terms of who and What??

If Virat's intentions were really to betray Samrat and never had any intentions of two timing.. Why did he hide that Pakhi was the girl he loved?

Virat trying to be indifferent is good..

PaKu milan and hug were the highlight of the day 😂😂😂

I liked how Kaku said she would support Pakhi's every decision.. I mean wah wah.. she wouldnt support their son's claims.. nor his decision.. wont even try to understand the reasons behind his accusations, but will support this glycerin factory no matter what.. Love is blind🤣🤣

@bolded: You are so brave for watching this! The second I saw Pakhi's face, I hit the FF button 🤣

I agree that Samrat behaved immaturely, because this was the second time that he shut Virat down in trying to explain himself. But, it's not about him having had enough time to think about it over the past year. Those emotions were burried within him for the past year, and now they have been reawakend upon returning to CN. As Samrat himself said, Virat was his everything. When you are so close to someone, the betrayal hurts that much more. Even in his pain, he still knows the type of man that Virat is, and he still wants to see Virat happy- that has been made clear in his conversation with Sai. Now, he knows that Virat is in love with Sai too. So, he just needs some time to cool down before he can listen to Virat's side of the story. He just needs to ease up a bit in order to look past his pain and remember that Virat would never intentionally hurt him....

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