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So i cant talk about the epi because i skipped literally all of it except the Sai Samrat portions. Because i have ZERO interest in pp. So while it maybe important to the overall show, i have realized that i am over it. The show never did interest me, it was Sai and Virat, mainly Sai.

So today for me was a letdown because they kept cutting in between Sai Samrat n pp-others.

And Sai didn't get as much as screen time as i hoped, yet Ayesha was shining! ♥️ I love her a little more each day.

Anyway so i kept fast forwarding. As it is , they had it all disjointed and uparseh i was only ff'ding so i could not find it satisfying as a viewer.

But the Sai-Samrat relationship is what i wish Sairat would be like in terms of the "honesty" standpoint. I wish Sairat could have a simpke, honest conversation with the same ease that sai-samrat did.

Sai is SO pure- she didnt spew hate about pp to Samrat even though pp deserves it. She even exaggerated the truth saying pp does things for the family. What a joke! But Sai was so very mature. she didn't tell him to apnao her etc or attempt to preach. She is merely telling him to talk to pp and not abandon his whole family for this one issue and in the process be lonely himself- i think its coz she knows both feelings- that of being abandoned as well as being lonely. 😥She wouldn't wish that for anyone.

She told Samrat clearly her own marriage is a deal but she stood up for virat. Virat heard her defend him, heard the respect, gratitude she has- as she said- i knew everything beforehand unlike you who learnt it after marriage, he is a good man, I'm his zimmedari but he has done so much for me, he is making me stay till I'm independent so that until i finish my education so that i feel sheltered, protected, have a sense of being nuruted, have a "family". As much as CN has actually been a cause of torture rather than nurturing they have all grown on her now. She has truly accepted them as "hers" because she has unconsciously regarded herself as an extension of her virat sir.

Virat needs to listen to how Sai thinks of him. She regards him so highly despite everything that has happened.

And if virat listened carefully he'd realize that theres no use or point waiting for Sai to allow him to express whats in his heart. Its obvious that she is closing herself off to avoid heartbreak for herself and if he took a few minutes to reflect on her words he'd know that what he should do is tell her everything. Not run away like his older brother.

Ek bhaagne ke baad vaapas aaya nahi ki agla shuru hogaya. 🙄

I wish i could shake some sense into virat. He needs to realize that his words, his clarification matters more than just his actions. Because his actions can be misconstrued at this point as only coming from a place of "care" rather than true love.

Sai is essentially saying that she cannot allow herself to feel for a man who loves another. And I'm positive that Virat would do exactly the same if he were in her situation. He would not be forthcoming with his feelings until he knew that the other person truly loved him. Infact he is doing that now. Instead of saying what he has to, he keeps putting it off saying Sai doesn't give me a chance to tell her how i feel. How does that matter?! Didnt he confess to pp how he supposedly felt for her even though it was really only an infatuation and he was saying that theres no future to us. Why cant he do the same for Sai. Why cant he juat say what he has to, honestly, and in entirety. Not in bits/pieces leaving room for misunderstandings....i sympathize with him but find it hard to empathize because i don't understand why he is prologing his own misery. I dont understand his reasons.

He heard how Sai essentially avoided answeing the question about what is her hearrt and said i know what is in virats heart....

Also I wish that they had given more time for Sai-Samrat scene. It had so much to it. They packed it with too much without the much needed tehraav. Samrat noticed the pictures of Sairat, he senses that maybe virat has moved on....he can sense that the Sairat relationship is real perhaps just from those pictures. and he genuinely cares about Sais feelings too. He is the first person that has asked her- what do you feel. Does virat have a place in your life. Even virat hasnt ever asked her this. Neither has aai. I can see that their bond will be something special....

And Sai couldn't be fully honest. One- she just met Samrat, she can't bare it all. Two- she even tells herself that she does NOT feel anything for virat to save herself the heartbreak so how can she acknowledge her feelings to Samrat. Infact she is already heartbroken but in a sense she is "lying" to herself n everyone else , to prevent herself from getting shattered and falling apart with no anchor, no support, no family again.

Thats why she stays put in CN despite all the crap n. the emotional toll it takes on her. Because having that is better than having nothing and no one. Thats why she "selfishly" chooses to stay in CN and gets easily coaxed into staying despite her repeated "naatak" of deal/leaving to hostel etc. Because Sai has NOTHING to go back to, no one to fall back on. Pulkit doesn't count because devkit are basically extension of CN. Her world revolves around virat n because of virat- his family too. She doesn't have a job/work either to devote her life to, she is still getting educated. So Sai is at a stage where no matter how toxic, how heartbreaking, how difficult it is, she will do her level best to stay with virat/in CN - even if its affecting her emotional n mental health/peace so much. Because her alternative is non existent- her alternative is literally being completely let loose to fly away into obscurity.

Sai is the only character in the show whose emotions, reactions, graph, reasons make sense to me and are either relatable or if not relatable, atleast its empathizable. Can't say the same for any of the others.

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Beautiful post Neerja❤️

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Neil was good in those expressions❤️

Ayesha shined in today's episode💟

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I loved your analysis❤️

Neilsha we’re amazing..

We could see Sai’s pain and love in Ayesha’s eyes today.

Couldn’t tolerate Paapi though, but she was speaking about her nonexistent self respect today.. which was more revolting.

I loved everything Sai said except her mention of Virat’s commitment part to Samrat.. wished she could have confirmed that later Virat clarified that he doesn’t hold such commitments towards Pakhi any more..So that Samrat doesn’t get more suspicious and misunderstand Virat further.

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Originally posted by: Nja91

So i cant talk about the epi because i skipped literally all of it except the Sai Samrat portions. Because i have ZERO interest in pp. So while it maybe important to the overall show, i have realized that i am over it. The show never did interest me, it was Sai and Virat, mainly Sai.

So today for me was a letdown because they kept cutting in between Sai Samrat n pp-others.

And Sai didn't get as much as screen time as i hoped, yet Ayesha was shining! ♥️ I love her a little more each day.

Anyway so i kept fast forwarding. As it is , they had it all disjointed and uparseh i was only ff'ding so i could not find it satisfying as a viewer.

But the Sai-Samrat relationship is what i wish Sairat would be like in terms of the "honesty" standpoint. I wish Sairat could have a simpke, honest conversation with the same ease that sai-samrat did.

Sai is SO pure- she didnt spew hate about pp to Samrat even though pp deserves it. She even exaggerated the truth saying pp does things for the family. What a joke! But Sai was so very mature. she didn't tell him to apnao her etc or attempt to preach. She is merely telling him to talk to pp and not abandon his whole family for this one issue and in the process be lonely himself- i think its coz she knows both feelings- that of being abandoned as well as being lonely. 😥She wouldn't wish that for anyone.

She told Samrat clearly her own marriage is a deal but she stood up for virat. Virat heard her defend him, heard the respect, gratitude she has- as she said- i knew everything beforehand unlike you who learnt it after marriage, he is a good man, I'm his zimmedari but he has done so much for me, he is making me stay till I'm independent so that until i finish my education so that i feel sheltered, protected, have a sense of being nuruted, have a "family". As much as CN has actually been a cause of torture rather than nurturing they have all grown on her now. She has truly accepted them as "hers" because she has unconsciously regarded herself as an extension of her virat sir.

Virat needs to listen to how Sai thinks of him. She regards him so highly despite everything that has happened.

And if virat listened carefully he'd realize that theres no use or point waiting for Sai to allow him to express whats in his heart. Its obvious that she is closing herself off to avoid heartbreak for herself and if he took a few minutes to reflect on her words he'd know that what he should do is tell her everything. Not run away like his older brother.

Ek bhaagne ke baad vaapas aaya nahi ki agla shuru hogaya. 🙄

I wish i could shake some sense into virat. He needs to realize that his words, his clarification matters more than just his actions. Because his actions can be misconstrued at this point as only coming from a place of "care" rather than true love.

Sai is essentially saying that she cannot allow herself to feel for a man who loves another. And I'm positive that Virat would do exactly the same if he were in her situation. He would not be forthcoming with his feelings until he knew that the other person truly loved him. Infact he is doing that now. Instead of saying what he has to, he keeps putting it off saying Sai doesn't give me a chance to tell her how i feel. How does that matter?! Didnt he confess to pp how he supposedly felt for her even though it was really only an infatuation and he was saying that theres no future to us. Why cant he do the same for Sai. Why cant he juat say what he has to, honestly, and in entirety. Not in bits/pieces leaving room for misunderstandings....i sympathize with him but find it hard to empathize because i don't understand why he is prologing his own misery. I dont understand his reasons.

He heard how Sai essentially avoided answeing the question about what is her hearrt and said i know what is in virats heart....

Also I wish that they had given more time for Sai-Samrat scene. It had so much to it. They packed it with too much without the much needed tehraav. Samrat noticed the pictures of Sairat, he senses that maybe virat has moved on....he can sense that the Sairat relationship is real perhaps just from those pictures. and he genuinely cares about Sais feelings too. He is the first person that has asked her- what do you feel. Does virat have a place in your life. Even virat hasnt ever asked her this. Neither has aai. I can see that their bond will be something special....

And Sai couldn't be fully honest. One- she just met Samrat, she can't bare it all. Two- she even tells herself that she does NOT feel anything for virat to save herself the heartbreak so how can she acknowledge her feelings to Samrat. Infact she is already heartbroken but in a sense she is "lying" to herself n everyone else , to prevent herself from getting shattered and falling apart with no anchor, no support, no family again.

Thats why she stays put in CN despite all the crap n. the emotional toll it takes on her. Because having that is better than having nothing and no one. Thats why she "selfishly" chooses to stay in CN and gets easily coaxed into staying despite her repeated "naatak" of deal/leaving to hostel etc. Because Sai has NOTHING to go back to, no one to fall back on. Pulkit doesn't count because devkit are basically extension of CN. Her world revolves around virat n because of virat- his family too. She doesn't have a job/work either to devote her life to, she is still getting educated. So Sai is at a stage where no matter how toxic, how heartbreaking, how difficult it is, she will do her level best to stay with virat/in CN - even if its affecting her emotional n mental health/peace so much. Because her alternative is non existent- her alternative is literally being completely let loose to fly away into obscurity.

Sai is the only character in the show whose emotions, reactions, graph, reasons make sense to me and are either relatable or if not relatable, atleast its empathizable. Can't say the same for any of the others.

Ayesha voice modulation while narrating what virat said on their marriage day 💔. We couldn't even appreciate actors good performance fully because of the crap we have been serving with.I don't know how could virat not see what was bothering sai. She is clearly saying she can't love virat not she don't love virat. And she gave reason too why she can't. Is it that much difficult to understand. Can't he for once try to understand her instead of blaming her for not giving him a chance to speak. Virat's self victimization every now & then is something which makes me not sympsthise with him. I hated sai dialogue that pakhi did so much for the family. Makers using every character in the show to whitewash that character. When samrat said he will talk to pakhi about ending their relationship, thank god sai didn't say anything & leave it on him about his decision. Small respite.
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Beautiful analysis ❤️
You have described Sai's mental state so well! And the Sai-Samrat dynamic is already so amazing. Looking forward to their scenes together.

Ayesha absolutely killed it!!! I could feel her pain so deeply today.....

Once again, the makers dedicated only 4 minutes to SaiRat + Samrat and the rest of the episode to didi's victimization...the exact reversal of the SS that was allotted in KD....but hey, this is a remake and it's all copy pasted right??? 🤢

I actually understood where all of the family members were coming from today in all of their dialogues. Ashwini clearly told Pakhi that all of this concerns her because it impacts SaiRat's relationship. She told Pakhi that all of the problems in SaiRat's relationship until this day have been because of her. These were extremely needed dialogues holding Pakhi accountable ..this was missing from yesterday's episode. Most powerful was Shivani's dialogue telling Pakhi that Virat has moved on and nothing will separate SaiRat so she has to question what she wants or else only she will suffer. This was spot on. Pakhi seriously needs to reflect within herself, because even she knows that SaiRat are together forever now, but she is continuing her vile acts. I liked how Shivani, Sunny, Ashwini, and Mohit were all trying to get Pakhi to look at the bigger picture here, being stern with her, not tolerating her BS, but still being gentle overall. At the end of the day, they want her out of SaiRat's life, and they also want Samrat in the house. They think that maybe she can be happy in the process too. Their bits of sympathy for her spoke to their character more than her's...

BUT

this does not change the fact that Pakhi (as expected and within her character), has successfully made herself the poor girl who was betrayed by both brothers. She said that this is all Virat's fault because he didn't speak and that it is Samrat's fault that he didn't ask her about her past or else she would have completely told him the truth...seriously??? Her dialogues about what it means to be a woman and her self-respect were unbearable to hear....

My point is that the characters were all great today, and so were the dialogues, but I am just DONE with Vankar serving us victim paapi in a GIANT PLATTER and cutting out/reducing all of SaiRat's most important scenes in the process!!!!!!!!!!! How much white paint does this man own?????


Last thing- how clever have these makers become? They are shoving Pakhi scenes in between SaiRat scenes now, unlike how they were in KD, so that we are forced to watch..... 🤢


Rant over. I actually loved today's episode minus Pakhi....

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

Beautiful analysis ❤️
You have described Sai's mental state so well! And the Sai-Samrat dynamic is already so amazing. Looking forward to their scenes together.

Ayesha absolutely killed it!!! I could feel her pain so deeply today.....

Once again, the makers dedicated only 4 minutes to SaiRat + Samrat and the rest of the episode to didi's victimization...the exact reversal of the SS that was allotted in KD....but hey, this is a remake and it's all copy pasted right??? 🤢

I actually understood where all of the family members were coming from today in all of their dialogues. Ashwini clearly told Pakhi that all of this concerns her because it impacts SaiRat's relationship. She told Pakhi that all of the problems in SaiRat's relationship until this day have been because of her. These were extremely needed dialogues holding Pakhi accountable ..this was missing from yesterday's episode. Most powerful was Shivani's dialogue telling Pakhi that Virat has moved on and nothing will separate SaiRat so she has to question what she wants or else only she will suffer. This was spot on. Pakhi seriously needs to reflect within herself, because even she knows that SaiRat are together forever now, but she is continuing her vile acts. I liked how Shivani, Sunny, Ashwini, and Mohit were all trying to get Pakhi to look at the bigger picture here, being stern with her, not tolerating her BS, but still being gentle overall. At the end of the day, they want her out of SaiRat's life, and they also want Samrat in the house. They think that maybe she can be happy in the process too. Their bits of sympathy for her spoke to their character more than her's...

BUT

this does not change the fact that Pakhi (as expected and within her character), has successfully made herself the poor girl who was betrayed by both brothers. She said that this is all Virat's fault because he didn't speak and that it is Samrat's fault that he didn't ask her about her past or else she would have completely told him the truth...seriously??? Her dialogues about what it means to be a woman and her self-respect were unbearable to hear....

My point is that the characters were all great today, and so were the dialogues, but I am just DONE with Vankar serving us victim paapi in a GIANT PLATTER and cutting out/reducing all of SaiRat's most important scenes in the process!!!!!!!!!!! How much white paint does this man own?????


Last thing- how clever have these makers become? They are shoving Pakhi scenes in between SaiRat scenes now, unlike how they were in KD, so that we are forced to watch..... 🤢


Rant over.

@ bold I was surprised too with this tactic. I couldn't completely off and had to stop and check whose scene was it 🤣. And its supremely clear on how biased the makers are when claiming it's just copy paste with the amount of ss Didi got today. I hope the TRP's go down further next week so they know the power of shoving victim Didi on our faces .

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Pakhi’s Story is entwined with Sairat progression or their journey. She can’t be taken away however bad the actress is and how much we despice Pakhi,the charecter. The major metal block Sai has regarding her relationship with Virat is about Pakhi only. So at this point of time,till the confession or even a little further Pakhi’s actions and her own story also will be shown along with Sairat ‘s ...

I know in Hindi version ,makers are stretching her scenes unlike in KD . At the same time I should admit we got Pakhiless episodes during Sai college function,and at other places.

So I think Pakhi is an integral part of Sairat realisation story at this point of time. Sometimes we miss good lines and performance of others if we skip Pakhi’s part..for example today Shivani is too good and to some extent Aswini ... in their scene with Pakhi.

Just my observation only..

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@ bold I was surprised too with this tactic. I couldn't completely off and had to stop and check whose scene was it 🤣. And its supremely clear on how biased the makers are when claiming it's just copy paste with the amount of ss Didi got today. I hope the TRP's go down further next week so they know the power of shoving victim Didi on our faces .

It gets irritating you know to see a good scene, the flow of it, because of this interruption..The whole concept of switching in TV shows are mostly about context..If two scenes are directly indirectly connected , bring it on.. This is not how its done..to force her...like this..if you know she is not working then why force her...this way..Why not finish hers and then give a better viewing experience......Shoddy editing there....This is like really odd, when you bring on that bakwaas and reduce Virat's screen space for that lady..Shoddy editing there !!

The conversation was long about 12 minutes, and Rono was there for good 4-5 minutes..yaha dekho They are really spoiling good scenes yaar..I am not sure why though.. TRPs ka kya.. Acha lage ya bura, it will get affected, BV is there, Bade even if it gets 1 , the two are enough to destroy this mockery of a show!!

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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

It gets irritating you know to see a good scene, the flow of it, because of this interruption..The whole concept of switching in TV shows are mostly about context..If two scenes are directly indirectly connected , bring it on.. This is not how its done..to force her...like this..if you know she is not working then why force her...this way..Why not finish hers and then give a better viewing experience......Shoddy editing there....This is like really odd, when you bring on that bakwaas and reduce Virat's screen space for that lady..Shoddy editing there !!

The conversation was long about 12 minutes, and Rono was there for good 4-5 minutes..yaha dekho They are really spoiling good scenes yaar..I am not sure why though.. TRPs ka kya.. Acha lage ya bura, it will get affected, BV is there, Bade even if it gets 1 , the two are enough to destroy this mockery of a show!!


@bold - It becomes very difficult to ffd, a few seconds delay makes us regret and today I felt, they tried defeating the purpose of us giving Didi alert and saying when to skip 😂

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