I found the episode ok 👍 - Page 3

Originally posted by: msin

See Asmi this is not a web Series where things get resolved in a jiffy .. if you compare it with shows like YHM .. shagun kept on getting chances after chances ..

over here they are doing rinse repeat and copy from KD ..

but Samrat track was needed in the show .. because they began the show with his entry .. and his wedding ..

the audience understands .. and the creatives are not making pakhi mahan .. they want her to get away easily so that we wait for her punishment another week ..if she starts getting punished week after week .. audience will start feeling sympathetic towards her .. and they don’t want that

I was just expecting two questions or forget even that, them being ashamed after realisation...atleast KD had that, the trio did not jump on Samrat just like that, they were ashamed of PP...Woh tak nahi..They just turned her into Bechari.. That did not happen in KD.. I thought this show is better than original..but honestly that looks better now..

In terms of execution first blooper itself is the huge embarrassment for a top show like Ghum.. Virat called samrat Shiva 🤢

I agree with your each point.. Virat got what he deserved.. First he gave away so called love to his brother then promised to keep her in his heart.. What did he think that he was going to give a life time commitment to his brothers wife and maintain emotional bonding to him..

Now that he has changed feelings for Sai shouldn't

he clear out the past garbage. I was so pissed still he kept mum...👎🏼

I have nothing to say about the hypocrite trimurti 😤

For me ghum has become beyond my tolerance level.. Sasta D grade vojhpuri films are even better 🤢

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

On the face of it, today's episode as a whole may be logically explained....and I agree with a lot of your points.

When I thought about it, Samrat not revealing about the SR phone call was actually fine. It was probably reserved to be used during SamrAkhi confrontation. Samrat had already revealed the gist of the love triangle and also that Virat had hidden the truth from him (to the elders). Phone conversation was a private info between Samrat, Virat and Pakhi.

I did not mind Shivani, Sunny and Mohit going to meet Pakhi. They were not trying to console her but as neutrals, trying to find a solution to the problem....ask her what she wanted to do. That's what family members do during disputes. I just want them to call her out her BS if she tries to shift the blame, or plays victims - without taking sides

Chakrams being partial to Pakhi is also known fact....this is who they are

Why people are apprehensive or dissatisfied? - because Pakhi never gets called out

Pakhi is being whitewashed....just like Bhavani

Everything in GHUM is copy pasted from KD. In KD, RK was rebuked by the family for major kaands like Ajinkya, pushing Sai etc. Here there isn't even a whisper. Why? I don't understand what they are trying to do here....

1) Are they trying to tell us that Chakrams are worse than Chatterjees. Then lets stop with the kabhi khushi kabhi ghum.....stop Sai or Virat trying extra-hard to make them happy.

2) Are they trying to portray Pakhi as an emotional fool...the parallel lead....who committed sins out of desperation? Then, perhaps, keeping the focus away from her crimes, helps to quietly move her story ahead? In contrast, in KD, RK was portrayed an a vindictive, scorned woman - which she was. I concede that audience perceives Pakhi as a deceptive, manipulative woman who doesn't take responsibility for her actions. But on-screen, she will always be the aggrieved party, never receive comeuppance for her sins - SaiRat will continue to be sympathetic to her irrespective of her conspiracy in Ajinkya matter which nearly caused Sai's death. Later, she will be shown as a loving wife of Samrat...It doesn't make for a good watch.

This is probably more a general view...not limited today's episode

I have not seen KD .. only heard from you all .. I feel they are getting influenced by Hindi tv aunties .. where the vamp gets away ..see if you see no 1 .. the vamp kept on getting scolded .. it became so much that now people have started sympathising with her and blaming anu aunty for being over preachy.. since the story fetches trp .. and written like that .. it works ..

I do want pakhi getting punished .. I really do .. but Mohit Shivani doing it .. would not have been nice .. and today just when her husband entered was not the day ..

maybe they can build the track of Mansi questioning patralekha.. but let’s wait for samrakhi confrontation..

It may also happen at the hands of samrat .. they may develop a track .. where samrat pretends to accept her publicly but inside the room .. he abhors her .

Originally posted by: sherry_24

I agree to your perspective. And as I mentioned in another post, it was logical for Virat to be cornered in this. Because he has always been family, Patralekha came into picture later. And for Samrat, technically he doesn’t really have a relationship with Patralekha. They have never stayed together, so his obvious retaliation had to be towards Virat. And Virat has the responsibility of clearing it as well.

But my sore point was Patralekha’s victimisation. And the hopes due to various factors, that she will never be held responsible or accountable. The scene that made me upset was not Mohit and gang going after Patralekha, but their conversation after that. I agree they are nice people and Sai would have been put on Mahaan pedestal if she had done it (I wouldn’t, because I feel she goes overboard with these things). But my bone of contention here is Sai has always accepted the relationship between Virat and Patralekha, so she would view her reactions and emotional state differently, but the others have not supported it, they only consider it to be a past which it is and somewhere are privy to her real intentions. And thats why this escape/exit should have been viewed differently by them, rather than falling for her crocodile tears.

And the biggest problem, if those were not fake tears, did Patralekha have a change of heart within minutes of seeing Samrat back or after she spewed all the venom out of jealousy that Virat was celebrating his anniversary. And that cringe worthy act of her looking through his things long forgotten in her amnesiac mind!!

see in a family we don’t support or not support .. I have lived in a joint family .. sometime we have deep conflicts .. abd if we are not directly involved .. we tend to listen to both sides .. just for time pass if nothing else ..

Mohit Shivani knew something has been brewing .. which has created tension .. fir a year .. today they got a chance to see what the matter can be .. curiousity if not empathy … made then go and show sympathy to pakhi ..

Mohit has not been given any information from his both cousins .. ( virat abd samrat ) has virat revealed his extent of relation to even Sai .. today patralekha is vulnerable.. if nothing else .. just Plain Curiosity can also lead a family me member to her side ..

In a normal day she would never reveal anything.. I can’t explain anything more than this ..

this maybe similar to Karishma type behaviour but it is not .. it maybe done with an intention to resolve the mess ..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I was just expecting two questions or forget even that, them being ashamed after realisation...atleast KD had that, the trio did not jump on Samrat just like that, they were ashamed of PP...Woh tak nahi..They just turned her into Bechari.. That did not happen in KD.. I thought this show is better than original..but honestly that looks better now..

Just watched the episode on TV again. I agree with all the points given by TM and all the views presented by her while interacting with others. The episode is good. There is a reason behind behaviour of every charecter including Pakhi.

Originally posted by: Akash3Rai

this show is just better from original in the lead couples casting and Chemistry.

Yeah no doubt about that..In the original RK and Emon both were good..Rono was wooden..

Originally posted by: msin

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Will reply once I watch the episode. Watched very few clippings. I agree to almost everything that you have said based on the story and the clippings that I had watched. I also thought the episode was okay. It could also be because I didn’t have any expectations. I was only eager to watch the reactions of CN log when Samrat exposes the truth and what he is about to do. Since I didn’t have any expectations, their reaction somehow didn’t make a difference to me. They are all hypocrites anyway. I also have another theory about it.

I feel that they all sided with Pakhi because she was chosen by them. She was chosen by the elders of the family. They had a very good impression about her and had faith in her. Accepting to Samrat would mean accepting their inability to read a person, it would mean their failure, that they have been wrong all the while in supporting a wrong bahu. Bhavani would never want it. She is not a person who can accept her failure. Not a person on whom people lose faith that she was wrong in supporting Pakhi all the while.

It was not only because she felt bad for Pakhi, it was because Samrat was accusing a girl whom she chose for him, whom she has so much faith in. She wouldn’t want to withdraw her support after she has been supporting her thing long I think. Bhavani is yet to change in many ways. Only after her egoistic and dominant attitude changes, will she even accept her mistakes and also agree that Pakhi is wrong.

That is my take on why she didn’t support her own sons. At the end of the day her pride is important which we had seen in Pulkit’s case too. She never accepted Pulkit. It was not only because of his Khandaan but I think it also would mean that she accepts she was wrong in not accepting Pulkit in the past.

Will let me know my views on the other things once I watch the entire episode.

Originally posted by: laksh

Will reply once I watch the episode. Watched very few clippings. I agree to almost everything that you have said based on the story and the clippings that I had watched. I also thought the episode was okay. It could also be because I didn’t have any expectations. I was only eager to watch the reactions of CN log when Samrat exposes the truth and what he is shout to do. Since I didn’t have any expectations, their reaction somehow didn’t make a difference to me. They are all hypocrites anyway. I also have another theory about it.

I feel that they all sided with Pakhi because she was chosen by them. She was chosen by the elders of the family. They had a very good impression about her and had faith in her. Accepting to Samrat would mean accepting their inability to read a person, it would mean their failure, that they have been wrong all the while in supporting a wrong bahu. Bhavani would never want it. She is not a person who can accept her failure. Not a person on whom people lose faith that she was wrong in supporting Pakhi all the while.

It was not only because she felt bad for Pakhi, it was because Samrat was accusing a girl whom she chose for him, whom she has so much faith in. She wouldn’t want to withdraw her support after she has been supporting her thing long I think. Bhavani is yet to change in many ways. Only after her egoistic and dominant attitude changes, will she even accept her mistakes and also agree that Pakhi is wrong.

That is my take on why she didn’t support her own sons. At the end of the day her pride is important which we had seen in Pulkit’s case too. She never accepted Pulkit. It was not only because of his Khandaan but I think it also would mean that she accepts she was wrong in not accepting Pulkit in the past.

Will let me know my views on the other things once I watch the entire episode.

WOW. Important points raised Lakshmi. I agree to what you said.

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Exactly! This is the typical Indian family dynamics. DILs or SILs chosen by the family will be supported unconditionally, anything otherwise could mean their failure. People in these settings, are not very open minded to accept their failures, correct them or correct the person they chose. Sai and Pulkit will never get the respect Pakhi gets...atleast in near future. But all these hypocrit people do know Sai's worth. Remember the discussion Trimurthi had before college function?! But they will never show these intentions in public. Unfortunately.

Also, any Indian family, modern or orthodox will panic on divorce shabd. It is cultural. They might support, always after trying all possible ways to keep the marriage in tact. Marriage is too sacred in the families, in India. So yes, they will try their best...it is only natural. Even Shivani. Because she has gone through it and knows it would be ugly. And as an aunt she will obviously want him to give it a try.

So the episode was in track with reality in India. What put me off is Pakhi's lies. The lady can lie to anyone, but not to herself. It didnt come across like that. She could have come across like she is hiding the truth. Blatantly denying, even to herself looked so wrong. But Pakhi being quiet when Virat was accused is understandable. She is no Sai, to come out clean or to stand by the truth.

PS: Actually one more subtle family dyanamics I observed is how noone explicitely pointed out the truth...everyone knows what Samrat is talking about. But no one named it aloud. That is something endearing about family system. There are wives involved and serious relationships at stake. People in the family protect them...as their instinct.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

WOW. Important points raised Lakshmi. I agree to what you said.

@bold

Exactly! This is the typical Indian family dynamics. DILs or SILs chosen by the family will be supported unconditionally, anything otherwise could mean their failure. People in these settings, are not very open minded to accept their failures, correct them or correct the person they chose. Sai and Pulkit will never get the respect Pakhi gets...atleast in near future. But all these hypocrit people do know Sai's worth. Remember the discussion Trimurthi had before college function?! But they will never show these intentions in public. Unfortunately.

Also, any Indian family, modern or orthodox will panic on divorce shabd. It is cultural. They might support, always after trying all possible ways to keep the marriage in tact. Marriage is too sacred in the families, in India. So yes, they will try their best...it is only natural. Even Shivani. Because she has gone through it and knows it would be ugly. And as an aunt she will obviously want him to give it a try.

So the episode was in track with reality in India. What put me off is Pakhi's lies. The lady can lie to anyone, but not to herself. It didnt come across like that. She could have come across like she is hiding the truth. Blatantly denying, even to herself looked so wrong. But Pakhi being quiet when Virat was accused is understandable. She is no Sai, to come out clean or to stand by the truth.

PS: Actually one more subtle family dyanamics I observed is how noone explicitely pointed out the truth...everyone knows what Samrat is talking about. But no one named it aloud. That is something endearing about family system. There are wives involved and serious relationships at stake. People in the family protect them...as their instinct.

@bolded: I found this to be perfectly within her character. She is incapable of accepting her faults, even to herself. She truly believes that she has done nothing wrong. What put me off is when she told Sunny, Shivani, and Mohit that she didn't know she would be living in the same house as Virat. Because we literally had multiple scenes at the start of the show where she explicitly said that this was the only reason she was marrying Samrat. It did not seem as if she was trying to lie... it was yet again another inconsistency (or perhaps purposeful attempt to victimize her by the makers)....