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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yes


I believe virat is more or at least equally at fault as pakhi and someone must call him out...damn he never speaks nor clarify anything.



In ghum world what happens in the episode Stays in the episode 😆 nobody bothers who said what and when and why, everyone becomes a Ghajini....Who can imagine that a huge showdown in front of the family where sai questioned virat and pakhis relationship will actually lead to love confession? 😆 I am also worried how will virat and sai justify themselves breaking all the promises ..not only virat , sai has said numerous times that virat will fulfill his promise.



Sorry for.digressing . Virat is responsible for bringing pakhi in the house as samrats wife , knowing that she wanted to marry virat and she doesn't love samrat. I don't know what good was he doing to samrat ? If he cared to clarify thr mu then ideally he should have told samrat or call off the wedding..or let pakhi call off the wedding ...he committed a huge blunder and he can't just get away with shouting "haan galati ho gayi mujhse us waqt" ...pakhi may.lack self respect but virat is equally responsible for this mess in their lives and he must own it...that doesn't mean he starts playing friend / husband to pakhi 🤢since virat is responsible for his actions uski zindagi ka raita toh phailega and phailna chahiye ..virat is deeply flawed .

Edited by _charu_ - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

This is exactly my view on this

Virat, after his marriage with Sai kept telling Pakhi that he hasn’t broken his promise, Now he wonders why she keeps asking him about the promise

Pakhi is responsible for her actions but Virat’s responsibility has to be fixed too, she is not just some crazy ex

@bold I have ranted a lot about this. I just couldn't tolerate him acting confused as why was Pakhi behaving that way. It was like he was totally clueless. How can he be? Yes, she cannot expect that he will stay single forever, but that was his idea and proposal in first place, then it was his responsibility to accept to it in the way he should be. He led her on by thinking he will keep the promise and would never break it, then it is only fair to let her know that he couldn't keep the promise.

She is wrong in continuing to have feelings for him, by not thinking about Samrat, by expecting that Virat reciprocate her feelings, by expecting that Virat shouldn't move on in his life.

But he also has some yogdaan in this mess, it is not enough to act guilty, it is more important to fix this, more important to take accountability.


How would it have been if Samrat never went missing and Virat had to see both Samrat and Pakhi together? Virat would have also been hurt. He would not have done what Pakhi is doing but it would have been painful to watch her with someone else, with his own brother. Pakhi's biggest mistake was the reason behind marrying Samrat.


Did Virat not have feelings for Pakhi after marriage too? Whatever he had, he did have. He let her know too about it directly or indirectly. Why was it wrong if she has feelings for him? She was wrong because she married Samrat to stay close to Virat. If this was not the reason and if she had decided to marry Samrat for her parent's sake and because Virat wasn't willing to fight for their love, it wouldn't have been wrong for her also to have some feelings for Virat even after marriage and also if she had respected her marriage with Samrat. One would have only hoped and expected that those feelings would diminish when her life with Samrat started to move forward. Virat knows that if Samrat was with Pakhi, she would have been able to move on just like how he could move on with Sai.

I feel that instead of feeling guilty and acting this way, he accept to Pakhi that he was at fault by expecting her to get married to his brother, by giving that waada to her, for not keeping the promise made to her. Not many would agree with this, but I wouldn't even say this if he himself had not kept telling or assuring Pakhi that he wouldn't break it.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

laksh

Agree with your take on vaada.

Virat did not try to take their lovestory to fulfillment reveals the fact that Virat did not have the urge to own Pakhi and get her as his wife. Otherwise he would have tried atleast to find a way to solve the issue.

Going by Pakhi’s nature he must have thought that it is essential to send her out if the room before someone comes and he made that stupid vaada without thinking twice. By doing so he invited lifelong torture.

Just my random thought.

@bold could be. But unfortunately without really understanding his feelings, he had his confessed love to Pakhi. If all this is true, then Pakhi would definitely would have been hurt that he didnt actually love her but was only attracted to her right? Pakhi's mistake was to agree to marry Samrat to stay close to Virat. Biggest mistake. If not people would have sympathised her expectations of Virat would stop her marriage. I could only see her expecting that, her desperation for Virat to somehow realise that she was going to become someone else's. One could see her hurt when he walked away for his mission.

To be honest, Virat made a waada, led Pakhi on even after he got married without even knowing what he felt for Pakhi which is wrong.

Whatever Virat is expecting now, why didn't he tell the same when Pakhi used to call him up when he was in GC? Why even invite her for the wedding? Why was it important that she knows about it in GC than at Cn? Didn't he tell Sunny that it is better that Pakhi comes to know at GC than get a jhatka at CN. He felt that he was obliged to her back then, then why not now?

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

Yes


I believe virat is more or at least equally at fault as pakhi and someone must call him out...damn he never speaks nor clarify anything.



In ghum world what happens in the episode Stays in the episode 😆 nobody bothers who said what and when and why, everyone becomes a Ghajini....Who can imagine that a huge showdown in front of the family where sai questioned virat and pakhis relationship will actually lead to love confession? 😆 I am also worried how will virat and sai justify themselves breaking all the promises ..not only virat , sai has said numerous times that virat will fulfill his promise.



Sorry for.digressing . Virat is responsible for bringing pakhi in the house as samrats wife , knowing that she wanted to marry virat and she doesn't love samrat. I don't know what good was he doing to samrat ? If he cared to clarify thr mu then ideally he should have told samrat or call off the wedding..or let pakhi call off the wedding ...he committed a huge blunder and he can't just get away with shouting "haan galati ho gayi mujhse us waqt" ...pakhi may.lack self respect but virat is equally responsible for this mess in their lives and he must own it...that doesn't mean he starts playing friend / husband to pakhi 🤢since virat is responsible for his actions uski zindagi ka raita toh phailega and phailna chahiye ..virat is deeply flawed .

@bold why even add a dialogue when they are not even going to do anything about it.


That is why I liked when Sai asked what promises mean to him and that if he stays back in the house, he can't keep the promise.


Pakhi pulled a trigger, she reacted and asked all questions to Pakhi. But I would like if Sai moves out saying that she doesn't want to come in between his promise.

Yes, he need not be staying single throughout his life, no one should expect that. But the mess also has to be cleaned.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

@bold could be. But unfortunately without really understanding his feelings, he had his confessed love to Pakhi. If all this is true, then Pakhi would definitely would have been hurt that he didnt actually love her but was only attracted to her right? Pakhi's mistake was to agree to marry Samrat to stay close to Virat. Biggest mistake. If not people would have sympathised her expectations of Virat would stop her marriage. I could only see her expecting that, her desperation for Virat to somehow realise that he was going to become someone else's. One could see her hurt when he walked away for his mission.

To be honest, Virat made a waada, led Pakhi on even after he got married without even knowing what he felt for Pakhi which is wrong.

Whatever Virat is expecting now, why didn't he tell the same when Pakhi used to call him up when he was in GC? Why even invite her for the wedding? Why was it important that she knows about it in GC than at Cn? Didn't he tell Sunny that it is better that Pakhi comes to know at GC than get a jhatka at CN. He felt that he was obliged to her back then, then why not now?

Yes I agree. He should have told her in the begining itself . He need not invite her to wedding at all.

We viewers might feel that he is not really in love with her at this point of time only but Virat did leave the impression that he really loved her,with his actions back then.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Yes I agree. He should have told her in the begining itself . He need not invite her to wedding at all.

We viewers might feel that he is not really in love with her at this point of time only but Virat did leave the impression that he really loved her,with his actions back then.

Yeah, sadly he did that for a long time after he got married too.

One time he will be acting very considerate towards how Pakhi must be feeling and another time he will act indifferent. During the photo shoot, he kept looking at Pakhi to see if she was hurting, he was unknowingly hurting two people there, one who had married Samrat due to her own reasons and another who married him again due to her own reasons.

He looked at Pakhi to see how she was feeling when they were all brought to Virat'room which was fully decorated. Why? Would we have agreed if Pakhi did the same, looking at Virat if Pakhi was taken to Samrat's room? It would have looked wrong especially when she had decided to marry Samrat. It is a way of respecting it. He said that it was a deal marriage, but he also said that he has given vachan during his wedding, he did make promises during the wedding to Sai. Then why even look at Pakhi or try to go behind her to make her feel better? By doing all that he was only leading Pakhi on. Would it be okay if Pakhi had run behind Virat seeing him upset looking at Samrat's fully decorated room?

He made many mistakes after he got married. I am not saying that he did them intentionally, he was not being thoughtful or mindful as how it would come across to Pakhi. He didn't want to have two women in his life but he led on Pakhi through some of his actions.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat was feeling bad for Pakhi on the day of his wedding night because she couldn’t enjoy such moments with her husband as Samrat left the next day after marriage . He even said this to Sai when she questioned him about walking out with Pakhi . It wasn’t a lover feeling terrible for his lover but it was a concerned friend thinking how difficult it would to be see a young women not getting an opportunity to enjoy the bliss of married life . Pakhi had a different idea , that’s a different discussion.


If he was mourning the death of their relationship, he wouldn’t be so cheerful and normal with Sai . Unknowingly, he had accepted Samrakhi wedding and his wedding as well . If he was still in love he would have felt terrible imagining himself with other women .

Edited by 404_NotFound - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I didn’t even contemplate on whether it was a lover who ran behind Pakhi or a friend. It was wrong. That is all. It can give wrong signals to Pakhi, hence he should have been thoughtful or mindful of what he was doing. As I have already said, I have never doubted his intentions or never thought that he wanted two women in his life. But that cannot change that fact that he had made a few mistakes by giving wrong signals to Pakhi, by clarifying to Pakhi about his relationship with Sai many times which should have definitely been avoided. When he did that back then, he cannot act confused as what is bothering Pakhi especially when she has clearly said that she has feelings for him even now and when she has not been able to move on. He can’t be held responsible for this behaviour of Pakhi but he is responsible for his own deeds.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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i think it is because virat gave the vaada and partially created this mess but paakhi also played her part at that time by agreeing to marry the next guy just because virat supposedly ditched her. virat gave her that vaada but she married to stay close to virat and possibly have some type of relationship with him but virat clearly didnt mean that as he loves samrat too much for that. he meant that he will always love her and not give her place to anyone in his heart but that mean he wanted a relationship with her after marriage. I can see how that is like giving false hope but paakhi was sane enough to understand the sanctity of marriage and what that would entail for her in terms of responsibilities and expectations. Anyone who is getting married thinks and understands that. paakhi just chose to ignore it and be in denial about it. After marriage, virat may have been soft with her and took her side time to time but he didnt go outside her room to eavesdrop or constantly seek him out or try to get in between samrat and her. paakhi could have chosen to ignore whatever he was promising thinking about their future and avoid this altogether but she wanted to be near virat even though she knew and could see that virat sacrificed his love for samrat. i mean how dumb does she have to be to not see that virat is never going to be with her once she marries samrat. also paakhi's acts after sai in the picture is a whole another story due to which people tend to overlook or not focus too much on virat's vaada.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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While I agree that Virat assured Pakhi about his Vaada on the day of his wedding by acknowledging their love but in this particular incident I don’t think Virat gave any hopes to Pakhi on his wedding night . He stopped the moment Sai asked him to and the message was pretty clear which Pakhi couldn’t read it . If he had walked out despite his wife stopping him then I would hold him responsible for misleading Pakhi . Having said that but he screwed up by giving explaining Pakhi about the lipstick mark the next day . He was trying to say he is still sticking to his promise but Pakhi misinterpreted as him not able to move on because of his love for her . This was during their initial stage but at later point he refrained from explaining her anything like feeding Sai , bringing Sai along with him to Ladakh trip and him taking off for her results day etc .


While he was giving explanations on one side like a friend , it’s also true that he was time and again asking her to move on with Samrat . Initially it was subtle by bringing in Samrat in their conversation but later it was directly conveyed ( terrace discussion, after hand holding drama his confession where he called her brothers wife ) and she was asked to accept the reality . This made sense as per the Vaada , he will stick to his terms and she has to her terms ( moving on with Samrat ) but Pakhi took these in different sense .

Edited by 404_NotFound - 4 years ago

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