Why none says Virat was wrong to give Vaada? - Page 2

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I am a very selfish person and marriage as an institution is not sacred for me, its a social contract

The woman didn’t think about herself before marrying Samrat, how is she going to think about him? But Virat was doing this for his brother and it was the worst thing he could do to his brother

The problem is Virat thought about his brother’s happiness more than his and he miscalculated that by refusing to marry Pakhi thinking he is helping his brother without realizing the consequences. If Virat had been selfish he would have saved three lives from this torture

Virat got carried away by emotion at that time. May be he felt it was necessary at the heat of the moment. I guess Pakhi ,samrat ,Sai and Virat all are victims of destiny. Samrat action was little bit selfish as he forgotten about his own mother. Virat is paying for the promise he made for an non existence love. Sai is fighting with her own feelings. She didn't realise what consequences migh become saying yes to this deal marriage. Didi's delusion only ruining her self respect. Don't want to get into more details about her 🤢

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Even if we believe it as a social contract , Pakhi betrayed her partner by violating the terms of the contract. The deal is between Samrat and Pakhi and the contract is their responsibility.

The problem is Virat thought about his brother’s happiness more than his and he miscalculated that by refusing to marry Pakhi thinking he is helping his brother without realizing the consequences. If Virat had been selfish he would have saved three lives from this torture

I don’t understand how can his brother be happy with a woman who doesn’t love him, rather is in love with her husband’s brother, when he cleared everything with Pakhi, he should have cleared everything with Samrat too

He decided he has every right to take decisions of his brother’s life

Anyway my point was that Virat said he is doing this for his brother that’s why he is more responsible

Pakhi was never doing this for Samrat, She didn’t think about her future, her happiness, her life, how will she give a thought to Samrat’s future or his happiness?

LOL

We have deviated from the topic

Why none tells Virat that he was wrong too?

Virat is wrong but his share of being wrong is less than that of Pakhi's. Vaada or not vaada she would have married Samrat. Her father asked 3 times, one time after Virat met her, if she wanted to marry Samrat, she said yes. After vaada two times, she said yes. She'll marry Samrat to be close with Virat (as a friend). So since the share of Pakhi's wrong is much more than Virat's share of being wrong, we normally don't talk about that.

If Virat is 25% wrong in giving vaada and thinking Pakhi will move on with Samrat and not disclosing things to Samrat, Pakhi is 75% wrong in accepting the vaada, violating the deal of the vaada (to move on happily with Samrat, she married Samrat to be close with Virat). and violating the deal of the marriage (by shouting I love you to her BIL at her SR) and having intentions of EMA (since Samrat won't be at Nagpur every time).

Originally posted by: AninditaB

Virat is wrong but his share of being wrong is less than that of Pakhi's. Vaada or not vaada she would have married Samrat. Her father asked 3 times, one time after Virat met her, if she wanted to marry Samrat, she said yes. After vaada two times, she said yes. She'll marry Samrat to be close with Virat (as a friend). So since the share of Pakhi's wrong is much more than Virat's share of being wrong, we normally don't talk about that.

If Virat is 25% wrong in giving vaada and thinking Pakhi will move on with Samrat and not disclosing things to Samrat, Pakhi is 75% wrong in accepting the vaada, violating the deal of the vaada (to move on happily with Samrat, she married Samrat to be close with Virat). and violating the deal of the marriage (by shouting I love you to her BIL at her SR) and having intentions of EMA (since Samrat won't be at Nagpur every time).

Who is more responsible is not the question, Pakhi is more responsible for ruining her life, Virat is more responsible for ruining Samrat's life

In whole scenario, Just think both Pakhi and Samrat are still in the mess while Virat got to move on and find love, he involved himself in lives of two people when he didn't have anything to lose from it as the promise he made meant nothing to him but it was reason enough for changing two lives for worse

Pakhi is responsible for her actions but even you agree that Virat is responsible too, why none reminds him of this responsibility? This is the question

Why they don't fix his responsibility in this mess?

If I add Sai in the mix, Virat is a much bigger culprit as he involved a fourth person in the mess when she begged him to not marry her in GC

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Who is more responsible is not the question, Pakhi is more responsible for ruining her life, Virat is more responsible for ruining Samrat's life

In whole scenario, Just think both Pakhi and Samrat are still in the mess while Virat got to move on and find love, he involved himself in lives of two people when he didn't have anything to lose from it as the promise he made meant nothing to him but it was reason enough for changing two lives for worse

Pakhi is responsible for her actions but even you agree that Virat is responsible too, why none reminds him of this responsibility? This is the question

Why they don't fix his responsibility in this mess?

If I add Sai in the mix, Virat is a much bigger culprit as he involved a fourth person in the mess when she begged him to not marry her in GC

When Sai told she doesn't want to marry Virat, Virat refused and was coming back to Nagpur for joining the duty. But in between that time, Sai did suicide which made Virat realise her vulnerability, that she's lonely in the whole world and need someone who can stand for her. He didn't know that his own family members will cause problems in her life. Sai didn't tell she doesn't want to marry, she told him to refuse because she knew the villagers would have married her off to some other person who might be much worse than Virat. Here she knew Virat atleast. Her no didn't have that strength, sorry not sorry.

Well he didn't drag Sai in a mess, he cleared about his feelings before marriage and they wanted to continue a platonic relationship (not an open marriage!) with some terms and conditions. He didn't know that at the point, his ex or whatever will turn this much mad that she'll abuse Sai. If he hadn't been honest before marriage, I would have considered otherwise, that he dragged Sai in a mess

Why only waada? I have always had a different view about this. Not to hurt anyone's sentiments, guys please don't bash me and no chappals on me. This is just my view.

Why should Virat even confess his love in first place? She thought he cheated her and he knew she was his brother's bride? Why was it important for him to clear the misunderstanding that he didn't cheat her? Why couldn't he let her think that so that she marries his brother? His motive was that she should marry his brother, then why care about his image? I could only see that he didn't want her to think him to be a chaat and so he had clarified to her. I don't understand the reason behind him confessing his feelings too. Had he let her believe that he cheated on her, she would have easily moved on, would have got married to his brother thinking that he was a cheat.

There could be a lot of repercussions even if he does the above, but if he wanted them to get married, instead of all the other things that he did, he could have done this.

Anyway, I don't think it was right on his part to decide for Samrat's life. He shouldn't have kept him in the dark. It is Samrat's life and he should have been informed.

I understand that it was ultimately Pakhi's decision but I also empathise with Pakhi the girl who wanted to marry him. He didn't fight for his love. It need not be love, was just an attraction, even Pakhi's selfishness could be seen when she accepted the waada, when she expects he stays single forever, but none of these can actually negate the fact that they both had some feelings for each other. He confessed his love to Pakhi whether or not it was love, she also did. Then it was only fair for him to think how would she be able to get married when she loves him. He could have tried to take their story forward too. Could have revealed the truth to Samrat. They all knew that he had someone in his life, why not just be truthful or come clean with it? He decided on behalf of those two to not share it with anyone. Yes, Pakhi had a choice to not get married, Virat also had a choice to not confess his feelings, had a choice to let his brother know the truth.

Waada was giveb out of impulse, in a hurry. He was worried that people shouldn't misunderstand if they spot them together in his room. But more than him giving the waada, I was a little disappointed when he let her know that the waada doesn't mean anything anymore. Pakhi might be wrong but in my opinion when he was moving on, he probably could have let her know that he wouldn't be able to keep his promise. He is not obligated to Pakhi but he knows their deal and has been telling her even after marriage that he has not broken his promise, or that he would never do it. He has always been clarifying that what he was doing for Sai was not because he had started to develop feelings for her, then why didn't he think that he should let her know about his changed feelings for Sai? Let her know that he made a mistake by giving her a waada? This is a topic of debate, let me end this here. Just my views.

Originally posted by: laksh

Why only waada? I have always had a different view about this. Not to hurt anyone's sentiments, guys please don't bash me and no chappals on me. This is just my view.

Why should Virat even confess his love in first place? She thought he cheated her and he knew she was his brother's bride? Why was it important for him to clear the misunderstanding that he didn't cheat her? Why couldn't he let her think that so that she marries his brother? His motive was that she should marry his brother, then why care about his image? I could only see that he didn't want her to think him to be a chaat and so he had clarified to her. I don't understand the reason behind him confessing his feelings too. Had he let her believe that he cheated on her, she would have easily moved on, would have got married to his brother thinking that he was a cheat.

There could be a lot of repercussions even if he does the above, but if he wanted them to get married, instead of all the other things that he did, he could have done this.

Anyway, I don't think it was right on his part to decide for Samrat's life. He shouldn't have kept him in the dark. It is Samrat's life and he should have been informed.

I understand that it was ultimately Pakhi's decision but I also empathise with Pakhi the girl who wanted to marry him. He didn't fight for his love. It need not be love, was just an attraction, even Pakhi's selfishness could be seen when she accepted the waada, when she expects he stays single forever, but none of these can actually negate the fact that they both had some feelings for each other. He confessed his love to Pakhi whether or not it was love, she also did. Then it was only fair for him to think how would she be able to get married when she loves him. He could have tried to take their story forward too. Could have revealed the truth to Samrat. They all knew that he had someone in his life, why not just be truthful or come clean with it? He decided on behalf of those two to not share it with anyone. Yes, Pakhi had a choice to not get married, Virat also had a choice to not confess his feelings, had a choice to let his brother know the truth.

Waada was giveb out of impulse, in a hurry. He was worried that people shouldn't misunderstand if they spot them together in his room. But more than him giving the waada, I was a little disappointed when he let her know that the waada doesn't mean anything anymore. Pakhi might be wrong but in my opinion when he was moving on, he probably could have let her know that he wouldn't be able to keep his promise. He is not obligated to Pakhi but he knows their deal and has been telling her even after marriage that he has not broken his promise, or that he would never do it. He has always been clarifying that what he was doing for Sai was not because he had started to develop feelings for her, then why didn't he think that he should let her know about his changed feelings for Sai? Let her know that he made a mistake by giving her a waada? This is a topic of debate, let me end this here. Just my views.

This is exactly my view on this

Virat, after his marriage with Sai kept telling Pakhi that he hasn’t broken his promise, Now he wonders why she keeps asking him about the promise

Pakhi is responsible for her actions but Virat’s responsibility has to be fixed too, she is not just some crazy ex

Originally posted by: AninditaB

When Sai told she doesn't want to marry Virat, Virat refused and was coming back to Nagpur for joining the duty. But in between that time, Sai did suicide which made Virat realise her vulnerability, that she's lonely in the whole world and need someone who can stand for her. He didn't know that his own family members will cause problems in her life. Sai didn't tell she doesn't want to marry, she told him to refuse because she knew the villagers would have married her off to some other person who might be much worse than Virat. Here she knew Virat atleast. Her no didn't have that strength, sorry not sorry.

Well he didn't drag Sai in a mess, he cleared about his feelings before marriage and they wanted to continue a platonic relationship (not an open marriage!) with some terms and conditions. He didn't know that at the point, his ex or whatever will turn this much mad that she'll abuse Sai. If he hadn't been honest before marriage, I would have considered otherwise, that he dragged Sai in a mess

When there were already 3 people in Pakhi’s marriage, let’s not forget Pakhi called him to tell him that she loves him and thats when Samrat heard her, Virat wasn’t shocked that his brother’s wife still loves him, IIRC he was crying, so its not like that Virat expected her to be in love with Samrat, then he brought Sai as a 4th person in this

After his marriage to Sai, The first thing he does is tell Pakhi that he loves her and he kept telling her that his vaada to her is intact, Now it means nothing to him, doesn’t mean it means nothing to Pakhi, He has Sai in his life but Pakhi didn’t get a chance to move on like he did, she is the only one responsible for this, because she has every means to get out of this life, It doesn’t absolve Virat of his responsibility in this

He was honest before marriage but why marry when you are already in a mess and had to call your ex on your wedding day to tell her that you don’t love your wife?

laksh

Agree with your take on vaada.

Virat did not try to take their lovestory to fulfillment reveals the fact that Virat did not have the urge to own Pakhi and get her as his wife. Otherwise he would have tried atleast to find a way to solve the issue.

Going by Pakhi’s nature he must have thought that it is essential to send her out of the room before someone comes and he made that stupid vaada without thinking twice. By doing so he invited lifelong torture.

Just my random thought.