Discussion thread - Sai’s feelings for Virat - Page 2

Originally posted by: jane_austen

I feel that Sai's feelings are as complicated as Virat's. I believe they are both equally attached to one another.

I think that there are three reasons why some people feel Sai is not as attached to Virat as Virat is attached to Sai:-

1) She does not involve him in her plans

I think this may be due to her being a child-woman. She is very young - she was dreaming of college; marriage was probably last on her mind. Basically she is mentally not prepared for such a deep, serious commitment. On the top of that, their marriage is not one of normal husband and wife. So she tends to remain and act like a free bird out of ignorance that these things will not matter.

2) She acts indifferent towards him

There are plenty of scenes, where we can sense that Virat is affecting her. Eg. She recalls the river date with a smile on almost three occasions; when Virat is at the hospital with Viji, she misses him - she tenderly caresses his side of their bed. The reason she doesn't give in to these feelings is ofcourse her belief that Virat will always hold a candle for Pakhi. So she creates a wall of indifference to protect herself from falling into unrequited feelings.

3) Virat does more things to show his affection than Sai

I personally believe that Virat has become more emotionally dependent on Sai than vice-versa. It does not mean that the emotionally dependent person is more attached or cares more than the less dependent person. It happens in real life also that a person who is more emotionally dependent will tend to do/show more affection than the partner who is less emotionally dependent. The care and attachment of both the partners, however is the same.

Little bit of what I understand.

To understand their relation we need to understand the base on which they got married.

Sai was clearly forced into marrying virat. Though virat was forced it was his conscious decision. Remember the dream in which he saves sai from mud pool and after that he firmly decides to get married to sai to protect her, to get out of the guilt that his father died saving him and to take her responsibility as she has no one left in this world.

Though he loved pakhi and made a promise to her he still decided to marry sai and said her she shudnt be expecting anything in return and can leave this marriage at any time after she is a doc. So fr virat it was his decision.

Bt fr sai she knew he was in love with sumone else even b4 this marriage came into picture and he was marrying her as a responsibility and stated nt to expect anything else. It wasnt her decision. She was forced into it. The way she said she vl never cum to gc at her vidaai says how she was forced into it.

After the marriage initially both tried to be normal vth one another. Few scenes in the initial episodes were the best example. They were trying to cope up with each other nd the family nd their marriage amidst the family drama.

Bt the differences started with vittal's case. Where he said he lost his valuable thing going to gc and he realised that one wud regret fr whole life fr one decision in taken in haste. Though it was indirect pakhi with her interpretation made it virat vs sai.

Then when pakhi left the house the way virat felt made sai feel that she was mere his responsibility and pakhi vl b his love forever.

Though amay fiasco and aniket scenes gave a hint that virat was attracted to sai nd want this to work out sai never allowed him towards her becoz she is stuck up in the past.

She thinks watever virat does fr her is becoz she is his responsibility. And since virat never stops pakhi in coming betwn them and giving her tipanni in every matter sai is of the impression that pakhi still has a firm place in his heart though he says she is just his friend.

This is why i feel though how much ever virat gives to make this marriage work sai still doesnt allow him to cum near her. She is scared that if she starts liking him or loving him if he doesnt reciprocate and if this marriage wont work she wont be able to handle the pain.

That is why even if she does anything fr him she covers up it using aai, devi tai or in return fr what he does fr her.

Bt coming to the love she has fr aai and devitai it has no problems. That is why she can go to anylength to make them happy. Even losing virat in her life can be the aftermath she still doesnt care becoz fr her she is his responsibility and she vl leave after few years so she doesnt want to think beyond that and understand her relation vth him.

If it was normal relation she wud hav though abt her relation with virat and her future bt now she doesnt. All she want is devi tai's happiness which is pulkit according to her.

Many above have beautifully put their points across. So not gonna repeat anything.

i don’t think Sai is NOT attached or does Not care about Virat. She is attached to him, possessive when someoneaccuses him (mahashivratri) and is slightly attracted to him. She is not in LOVE with him yet, she is not entertaining the thought about it. She does introspect ( when aai suggests that Virat means more to her during the alta scene) but stops herself from falling further.

1) Although she doesn’t show it as much as Virat, she thinks and feels happy about Virat. She has lot more FBs of their happy moments. Meaning she THINKs ( sometimes voluntary ,sometimes involuntarily) a lot about them compared to Virat.
—— a) after the lake date, after the fight in the room she sits and recollects it and feels happy about it. She told the family after a long time she was very happy , meaning she enjoyed his company

—-b) Shivani amay coffee shop she thinks about her happy moments and what Virat has done for her .

—c) when Virat was helping the girl Viki. She was smiling and was happy thinking about Virat and alta incident. She then stopped herself from thinking that forcefully but her involuntary reaction is to smile and feel happy about it

2) even when Pakhi leaves the house and Virat goes to her house to convince her. There is a scene where she is worried if Virat had food but when aai asks to call Virat to check up on him , she doesn’t want to explicitly show. Even in the night she is worried about how he couldn’t sleep because of Pakhi didi and despite refusing to apologise when kaku asked. She was ready to do it for Virat. despite not being at fault

3) every time Virat calls her zimmedari or faze or any variation of that. Her face falls and she has this inner voice which says I don’t mean anything more than that for him. She wants to mean more to him . There are so many occasions that was visible. During dig apologising incident, in the car while going to the late etc

4) she is possessive of Virat in front of Pakhi . Even if she made up her mind to not fall for Virat , she cannot stop herself from giving back to Pakhi didi when she interrupts them.

Sai doesn’t obviously show her concern and attachment to Virat. But I would disagree if you say that she doesn’t care about him and is not attached to him and make her out to be a emotional version of gold digger where she only takes but not gives in return

Originally posted by: notaquitter

Many above have beautifully put their points across. So not gonna repeat anything.

i don’t think Sai is NOT attached or does Not care about Virat. She is attached to him, possessive when someoneaccuses him (mahashivratri) and is slightly attracted to him. She is not in LOVE with him yet, she is not entertaining the thought about it. She does introspect ( when aai suggests that Virat means more to her during the alta scene) but stops herself from falling further.

1) Although she doesn’t show it as much as Virat, she thinks and feels happy about Virat. She has lot more FBs of their happy moments. Meaning she THINKs ( sometimes voluntary ,sometimes involuntarily) a lot about them compared to Virat.
—— a) after the lake date, after the fight in the room she sits and recollects it and feels happy about it. She told the family after a long time she was very happy , meaning she enjoyed his company

—-b) Shivani amay coffee shop she thinks about her happy moments and what Virat has done for her .

—c) when Virat was helping the girl Viki. She was smiling and was happy thinking about Virat and alta incident. She then stopped herself from thinking that forcefully but her involuntary reaction is to smile and feel happy about it

2) even when Pakhi leaves the house and Virat goes to her house to convince her. There is a scene where she is worried if Virat had food but when aai asks to call Virat to check up on him , she doesn’t want to explicitly show. Even in the night she is worried about how he couldn’t sleep because of Pakhi didi and despite refusing to apologise when kaku asked. She was ready to do it for Virat. despite not being at fault

3) every time Virat calls her zimmedari or faze or any variation of that. Her face falls and she has this inner voice which says I don’t mean anything more than that for him. She wants to mean more to him . There are so many occasions that was visible. During dig apologising incident, in the car while going to the late etc

4) she is possessive of Virat in front of Pakhi . Even if she made up her mind to not fall for Virat , she cannot stop herself from giving back to Pakhi didi when she interrupts them.

Sai doesn’t obviously show her concern and attachment to Virat. But I would disagree if you say that she doesn’t care about him and is not attached to him.

Another thing I missed

- although she doesn’t show her care and affection to Virat,she always talks about him proudly and fondly with others eg Pulkit. She always talks positively and proudly about her husband

- college Valentine day track , she was so proud and the way she was clapping and looking at him, no one can miss the emotion behind that . Attraction and proud of her husband

- in the room she was looking at their picture in the college group of Virat giving her roses.

Nice post! A lot of people have given examples of Sai being attached and why she's so scared to let her defenses down.

One thing Virat needs to get out of the way is her fixed notion that he still loves Pakhi. That ..he has to clarify. The most humiliating feeling for a wife in a marriage or even a husband is that his or her partner loves someone else.

Even in his monologue, he called her a habit, an aadat. He too needs to clear up his head about what he feels about her. It's not about confessing his love for her, it's about telling her his past is his past.

Sai calls him her lucky charm! She does value him a lot.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Nice post! A lot of people have given examples of Sai being attached and why she's so scared to let her defenses down.

One thing Virat needs to get out of the way is her fixed notion that he still loves Pakhi. That ..he has to clarify. The most humiliating feeling for a wife in a marriage or even a husband is that his or her partner loves someone else.

Even in his monologue, he called her a habit, an aadat. He too needs to clear up his head about what he feels about her. It's not about confessing his love for her, it's about telling her his past is his past.

Sai calls him her lucky charm! She does value him a lot.

I didn’t like that part too (bold above ^) but changed my perspective for my own sanity that maybe his love for her is habitual?

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Off late , I feel Virat’s presence and absence doesn’t matter to her and she isn’t attached to him as much as he is to her. I don’t know if I am unable to understand her emotions but I believe Virat is the one who gives more in this relationship .

I agree and I believe the same too to some extent.

Virat is the first one who felt a pull for Sai. Virat has always liked her. Some qualities in Sai have impressed Virat and he knows that such qualities can be found only in people who are one in a thousand.

The pull turned into strong feelings for him after they started to live together. Also, the conditions during the marriage were set by him and also subconsciously broken by him. It made it easy for him to loosen up and give more into this relationship.

Just my observations

Sai, though had some vague feelings for Virat in GC, wasn't aware of it or we can say never acknowledged it or never assessed it. She never paid attention to such thoughts.

I could see some possessiveness in her whenever she heard the name Pakhi from his mouth and she deliberately used to bring that name whenever they talk, probably to try to know who she was. It looked as if she was curious if he had someone else in his life.

Even after she had blamed him for her Dad's death and asked him to not to come to their house, she felt a little restless when Virat was about to leave to Nagpur. She called him when he was at the door of her room.

I strongly feel, she wanted him in GC, it wasn't love but she started to develop some feelings for him.

When he spoke to her in the hospital, scolding her to have taken an idiotic step and to have forgotten about her Aaba's dream, she said "I thought you would have left to Nagpur".

It showed her disappointment that he had left to Nagpur and she was trying to stay detached from him, pushing him away even back then. In the same scene we can see her bringing up Pakhi again saying "aap jaayiye, Pakhi aapke liye wait kar rahi hogi". He did clarify who she was to her though.

But then circumstances changed, when she came to know of her marriage with Virat, she confronted why he wanted to marry her. Even in that scene, her disappointment of him not being present during her hospital discharge was shown "itni hi fikar thi tho aap kyun nahi aaye hospital".

And then when he said he was not marrying her because the villagers are forcing him, she tried to probe him by asking was he marrying her "it is not like you love me".

But, he didn't get the hint, then she brought up Pakhi into picture, "Paakhi ka kya?". If the answer to that question was the same as what he had answered in the hospital, it would have been entirely different.

I believe she was left heartbroken when she heard that Sai will just be his responsibility and he has promised to someone else that he cannot give their position to anyone else in his life ever and that he can never be her husband.

There was no love from her end, but it looked like she looked forward to have something with him, she probably liked him or liked the prospect of getting to be with him and as soon as he told her about his commitment, she was left shattered.

Not many would agree with it or not sure how many were able to see Sai's pull towards Virat, I could see it. I never brought this point until now because it is very difficult to explain.

The reason behind me bringing all this is that, if she had no such pull or never had any expectations from him before that meet, and even if he had spoken to her about his commitment and all, Sai would be behaving differently now. Her walls would not be as high as it is now, especially after whatever Virat has been doing for her.

If it was not for this reason in the past, it would have been very difficult for her to not fall for him. It is not just because of his waada or Pakhi, she had got hurt and it was painful for her.

It is natural, she had no love for him at that point of time and if that was so hurtful, she wouldn't want to get close to him, will like to maintain some distance, stay detached and the only way she thought she can do these is by acting rude, harsh and indifferent.

However, she is failing to stay detached from him, failing in all her efforts to maintain distance from him, started to feel for him again, not able to stop herself to have expectations from him.

This failure, along with a few past incidents that kept reminding her that Pakhi 'was and is' important to him, the love that is clearly visible in Pakhi for Virat and her understanding that Virat is partial towards Pakhi or Virat has feelings for Pakhi is forcing her to stick to her resolve of considering this marriage as only a marriage of deal.

Having said all of these, it doesn't mean she doesn't do anything for him. She has done many things, cares for him, thinks about him, has heard and respected his expectations many times. I don't know if you have noticed, both somehow have so much understanding, that Virat will know if he asks her to do, she will follow. No one in the house would have been able to guess and especially Pakhi could never believe many a times that Sai would simply listen to him. There is no doubt that she respects him.

Many of her actions are due to her impulsive nature. Her stubborness (because she thinks she is not doing anything wrong) turns into rebellious action only when they both are not in good terms.

I also think and feel that she would do anything for him, for the person he is but will try to stop herself from doing it for the husband Virat. She applied alta inspite of her having allergies, we could see how she didn't want to tell him that she did it for him.

"Aai ke bete" in dean office is not because she doesn't want to acknowledge him as her husband, but because she doesn't want to develop any kind of feelings or expectations that might get formed naturally as soon as she acknowledges him as her husband.

There have been discussions as how Virat started to take liberty on Sai, how he feels she is his wife and does a lot of things (not anything negative or bad ones) , expects from her because he accepted her as his wife.

He could afford to do it, he was not chained by any restrictions whereas she tries not to accept that he is her 'pati' because she thinks that by doing it, she will involuntarily start to have expectations from him.

This was her thought process from the beginning, especially after she realised how important Pakhi was for Virat (Virat's call with Sunny when Pakhi left to her maayka). That only ascertained her assumptions.

We could see/it was always visible that she has been refraining herself from expecting anything from him as a wife.

We were shown mercy by the makers when she confronted him about his relationship with Pakhi and his conditions during the wedding. Is it not this confrontation that I am talking about, but her below statment confirmed my understanding.

"Maine kabhi aapse aisi koi umeed Rakhi jo ek pathi ke taur par aap mujhe de nahi sakhthey"

"Meri Jagah koi aur ladki hothi toh apni kismet par roti lekin mein nahi.

Maine humare samjhauthey waali shaadi aur aapka commitment donon ko sweekar kiya.

Nahi apne swaabhimaan ko marne diya aur nahi Maine kabhi aapse aisi koi umeed Rakhi jo ek pathi ke taur par aap mujhe de nahi sakhthey"

The first two statments are true and it takes a lot of courage in a person for that. The second statement about accepting his commitment, to ensure she does that, she is behaves indifferently.

Her arrogant behavior sometimes with him especially when she wants to maintain distance from him can be attributed to the 3rd statement. In order to protect her self respect she ends up behaving arrogantly with him.

I am not saying that it is right, but that is how she tries to ensure that her mask doesn't slip and her true feelings doesn't come out. She doesn't want him to even have a blink of her feelings.

She knows it subconsciously, is feeling something for him but keeps suppressing it. She is made to think whenever Aai speaks to her about it but she ignores them.

Just like how he is worried that she will leave him if she comes to know he likes her and he wishes to make this marriage work, she is worried that he will misunderstand her that inspite of him telling her many times that she is only his responsibility, she has started to expect him to be and act like her husband.

It is not for the ego, it is for the above said reason that she doesn't want the mask to slip.

When she can love Aai or Tai, why won't she be able to love him, she is trying her best to stick to hear end of the deal.

She can and will only be trying to do that, but once she falls in love, she won't be able to stop herself.

I understand her reservations because of Pakhi’s presence but can we call it love if they come with conditions . If this condition is met I will love you back . I can understand if she is not confessing but here I feel there is no love or attachment from her side .

Falling in love is a natural process, one can't answer why she has still not fallen in love. If Virat had residual feelings for Pakhi and if it is natural for him to feel bad when Pakhi's marriage was brought up, we should also understand if she is not able to fall in love with him yet.

I don't believe it has got to do with her raised walls.

If not for the walls, things would have been different

- she would have got attracted to him,

- she would have had expectations from him,

- she would have looked forward to spend time with him,

- she would have considered his room as theirs,

- she wouldn't have had issues calling him her pati.

Even now, she does some of the above without her own knowledge and the last two when she gets possessive (quite natutal).

She would have been acting like a wife who has got married to a guy but who is yet to fall in love with that guy. The raised wall is not the reason, she has not fallen in love with him.

I have read a couple of replies to this post, who have mentioned that she is attached to him and how she is attached to him and what all she has done for him.

One would think below are probably very small things compared to what Virat is doing for Sai, but the points associated with that of Pakhi, doing that really conveys a lot, a girl who couldn't tell sorry to Virat in GC, apologised to a lady who bullies her. That shows what she can do for him and it is definitely not an easy one.

- Visit to DIG office, clarifying Virat's name and trying to save his job and his reputation

- apologising to Kaku on the day of reception

- apologising to Pakhi and convincing her to return to CN even when it wasn't her fault at all only because she thought Virat was feeling restless

- the same day worrying if Virat had food or not

- taking taunts from Pakhi and trying as much as possible to not misbehave with her for the promise she made to Pakhi and to Virat as well (which even Virat looks at her surprisingly on the day Pakhi sees her feeding Virat)

- getting worried that he didn't have food on the day she went to PD sir and thougih she doesn't like Pakhi, she even asked him why did he have to fight with Pakhi

- calling up DIG to find about Virat's whereabouts and also taking food for him in the middle of the night

- applying Alta even though she has allergy

- not failing to get a gift for Virat too

About, her not missing Virat, I would only say that she is right now mainly worried about Devi Tai and the whereabouts of Pulkit. She has a bigger task on hand and her focus is solely on that.

Also, Virat has gone for a training and she knows that, she is a policeman's daughter and understands these.

Also, if there was no news from Virat, if he had vanished like how he had on that night that he stayed back at hospital, she would have thought about him, would have worried for him and amidst all the chaos at him, would have tried to find out about him and his whereabouts.

This takes me to the night Virat was in the hospital, he was so lost in Samrat and that girl, that he never even once thought of informing anyone at home, forget Sai, didn't even inform his Aai. He did tell that night that he is in police and his irregular timings is expected and understandable. Though what he was telling was true, it was not that big of a deal that day for him to have informed people at home. He was emotional and all his focus was only on that guy Samrat.

It is only natural that Sai is drowned in Devi's misery at the moment and she is not able to think about anything else. I don't think she even thought about her Aaba now.

She does things for his Aai and Tai only because she loves them not because they are associated with them . I think she bears all the CN drama because she thinks it’s temporary and sometimes we don’t want to get out of our comfort zone even if the environment is toxic . Moving out of CN will make her life difficult . I am being very practical here and this happens in most divorce cases where a spouse hesitates to divorce due to the fear of losing the security in life . It happens when in professional life where we stick to the job though it’s toxic because moving out requires lot of energy, time and the fear of future .

I am sorry, I disagree with this. Sai is not a person who would stay in CN for her own benefits or because she feels safe here or because it is the practical thing to do.

It is not like she never wanted to get out of this toxic environment, the very first time she noticed how inhuman these people were (chilly grinding episode), she said she will leave the house and move to hostel. It was Virat who tried to convince her, can't exactly say manipulation but he knew that if he challenged her, she will stay back and it was as a result of which, she stayed back.

It is not the fear of losing security, as much as she wanted to move to hostel, as much as she has her mask on, as much as she doesn't consider this marriage to be a real one, she is not able to leave Virat.

It is her subconscious mind which is playing a part in making her stay here. Also, she knows he has taken her responsibility and she will walk out of this house either if he asks her to leave or even if she wants to leave the house on her own, she would leave only if he approves of it.

She sees him as her guardian too and as someone after her Aaba and respects him and knows that it will only be right to leave the house if he agrees to it.

For a person like Sai who is very impulsive, who lacks rational thinking, "her thinking about how much energy it would take if she has to move out of his life or CN or thinking what will be in store for her in her future" is all not possible. It is beyond her imagination.

I would agree with you if you are talking about Karishma.

If it is not for an unknown feeling within her for Virat and respect (how much ever arrogant or rude she has been or is) for Virat, she would have left this house.

Also, we are talking about the same girl who bought an expensive gift for Devi Tai than thinking of saving some for herself, just in case.

It is the girl who was willing to give away all her jewels that her Dad bought for her to Devi Tai. It is not just about the value of the jewels, Virat also asked if she is referring to the jewels her Dad gave because that is like a memory associated with him. That is how "saaf dil ladki" she is.

Have replied in green. They are just my observations, my understanding and my views.

Hope it helped in clarifying your doubts on Sai's feelings for Virat to some extent.

Originally posted by: laksh

Have replied in green. They are just my observations, my understanding and my views.

Hope it helped in clarifying your doubts on Sai's feelings for Virat to some extent.

Many times we have seen Sai doesn’t take Virat’s opinion into consideration . Like once Virat said she doesn’t bother to think what would be the impact on him when she makes certain decisions . I am not saying as a wife she needs to worry about his feelings but she never thought how difficult it is for a person who is defending her every time.

During Amay case , there was no need for her to trap Amay and despite Virat’s repeated request she doesn’t think even for a second how all this would effect him . She doesn’t pause to think she might be hurting the person for something which is not important. Honestly, i saw the whole trapping Amay as a tamasha she created in public . It’s equivalent to washing dirty linen in public . She never thought how she gave neighbors an opportunity to gossip about Shivani . It’s like my way it highway . These were some which made me feel she doesn’t care about him .

I totally agree with you on her feelings during GC . I sensed it too and I felt it was more like a infatuation or a crush kind of feeling . It’s common for an 18 yr old to feel. Mostly , girls have such feelings for their professors . Just like her friends, she had a crush on him but she never admitted it given the circumstances . He was a young handsome and intelligent officer with so much power at a young age so it was natural to feel that way

Thanks everyone for sharing your perspective. I was delighted to read all the responses . It has slightly changed the way I look at Sai . I am not individually replying to all because I have pretty much the same thing to say to everyone.

I want to clarify few things , when I said his presence or absence doesn’t matter I was referring to her “my way or highway “attitude which happened during Amay’s track and during lunch drama .

I want to clarify on the gold digger part , I never considered her as one . Infact, i find her more human if she has thoughts like emotional and financial security whenever she decides to leave the CN . I don’t think it’s wrong to feel that way . I would appreciate such FL who are not Mahaan atmas .I rather found it annoying when she was shown worrying about CN people when Virat got food for her or praying for the safety of people who have only abused her so far . I know our ITV isn’t there yet but I prefer a FL who can prioritize her happiness/ martial relationship over family’s happiness

Abhi mera pov baki hain nitu , I will give in a while😆