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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyyy

I will be honest here , if Aish had played Sai’s role then people would be easy on her . They would have accepted her mediocre acting . Sai character is layered and it’s not easy to play her character either . Maybe Aish would have excelled in romantic scenes given the personal equation she shares with Neil . That would have made the fandom happy but I am sure she would have struggled during emotional scenes .

Maybe I am biased and I don’t know about their offscreen chemistry.

I didn’t like their earlier episodes either. They yoga retreat scenes where they were ideally supposed to fall in love. I didn’t get any chemistry vibes from them.


i liked the dream dance sequence because the dance was well choreographed


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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think even the direction team understands the shortcomings of the actress like you mentioned in the post. Because in the thodphod scene there was neither close up shots nor the focus was on the actress. It was on the things she was throwing.

At one point they were showing only her body with her head cutoff when she was pulling out the quilt from the bed.


it was so obvious they couldn’t show her expressions that was bad or the direction team is total bakwas to take a shot where the face is not shown.

How much ever delusional she is, the hurt of losing her lover could have been portrayed better.

Thanks for the post. I thought I was the one thinking too much about the layers nuances of Pakhi didi’s acting and getting frustrated 😊.

the discussion says other wise 😉😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: cheekukabeej

My guess is they actually want to show her as a person who is delusional and thinks of herself as the victim. She is oblivious to what she does or says can be wrong too. In her mind she has some set images regarding everyone and she is scared to let go of that image. She is scared of change. Life around her has moved on but her life has come to a standstill. She still delusionally thinks if she doesn't move forward life will stop and she can start her life from where she stopped. I also think that she tries to be the best bahu of the Chavan Nivas so that when she gets together with Virat later on, nobody objects to it and also because they serve as a tool to break Virat and Sai's bond. Now when she sees that life is changing and she might not go back to where she was. She is trying desperately to stop life from changing, stop Virat from changing, stop their equation from changing. She thinks of herself as a victim. She pretends to be sweet but her heart is filled with bitterness. Anyone who tries to show her mirror and tries to bring her back to reality is an enemy to her. Anyone who wants her to change is an enemy. It's like she believes she is living in reality and others are delusional. Hence the shocked expressions. She doesn't want to believe that her real self has become so ugly in the process. Like a flowing river is beautiful but when water is stuck in a place it becomes dirty. Same thing has happened to Patralekha. If my guesses are correct, her mask will gradually wear off as the hopes of going back into the past and getting together with Virat diminish. It also means she might stop pretending to care for the family as the last hope of them being effective as her tool to go back to Virat breaks one day. It also means it will make her mad once she fully notices that she is the only one and everything around her has changed. She might pretend to flow with life instead of actually moving on, but it will only make her worse. But once she comes to terms with reality and looks at herself in the mirror and realises how she has been stuck and how different she has become from who she was, she will break down. And I want to hope that day will be the start of her new life. Once she starts flowing freely like a river, her soul will become pure. It might never happen but I am hoping.

I wonder if it made sense😂😂

@bold especially but I like your entire post. I feel you put it perfectly. That same “how dare you accuse me” expression is supposed to fool everyone into seeing her as a victim. She’s so full of bitterness that even today when Sai and Virat were walking away she accused Sai of taunting her. At this point the character is headed off the deep end with no one to catch her. The family besides Ashwini, doesn’t know her motive for hating Sai. They just don’t care as long as she is also yelling at Sai. Virat seems to be getting it, but he needs to tell Sai clearly that he does not love Pakhi. As for Aishwarya’s expressions or lack thereof, I just feel this full on negative character is difficult for her to portray. She has the same expression on her face all the time; that’s the director’s fault. Something is not connecting somewhere.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have noticed too...for all her high voltage scenes they do a long shot or top shot. even during the Ladakh trip confrontation, I was surprised because it was her scene. Then I thought maybe because of Ayesha's injury. But the focus could have been on her completely.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Oh, for the longest time, I have been thinking of how Jennifer would have nailed the role. I really cannot think of anything that Aishwarya brings to the table. There is no portrayal of love-scorned. She behaves like a cuckolded wife but doesn't actually dwell on her feelings for Virat.

He's a khilona to her, truly. I don't even think she's ever nfatuated with him. As if he was a trigger to her obsessive proclivities and now it's much beyond him. And, with all due respect to their personal lives, their chemistry did not translate on-screen at all. I did not actually see the life-altering spark that Pakhi and Virat kept on testifying. Maybe Aishwarya really struggles with subtleties or maybe the crew has botched up her role royally.

It's very hard to feel anything for Pakhi apart from her need to see a therapist. Her parents really need to take a stand because their vulnerable daughter is being exploited by that narcissistic kaku. But, then again, they have been spineless parents.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aditii

I just want her expressions to get aligned with her characterization. Her central character traits are pride, selfishness, and narcissism. She wants everything she lays eyes on and that her heart desires, credit to how she was brought up. At the moment, she wants Virat and is using emotional manipulation to gain him.

All I want is for the actress to emote accordingly. Every time Sai or Ashwini counter her actions (cancelling the Ladakh trip, getting angry at Virat feeding Sai), she shows shock or surprise. Her face says, "How dare you ask such a baseless question?" But in reality, the question isn't baseless. Instead, the actress should show rage or displeasure. Her facial expressions should put forth a question like, "How dare you counter me?" or "How dare you question me?" And she needs to bring in variation in how she expresses these emotions. Monotony in facial expressions is very dangerous for an actor. The actors playing Virat, Sai, Ashwini, and even Devyani for that matter bring in variation in how they cry, get angry, or show any negative emotion.

Pakhi is certainly a negative character. But she comes across as delusional instead of narcissistic because of the way she is presented. Both the actor and director need to fix this blunder to make Pakhi a bit more tolerable.

Just take Omi and Sonali, for example. They both blindly follow their Vahini even if there is no logic in what she says. But their expressions change when Mohit or Karishma are questioned/humiliated. The nuance in their acting conveys to us that they are weak people with no spine who only follow their Vahini yet feel a pinch in their heart when their son or daughter-in-law are insulted. It makes for much more of an interesting watch and makes their deplorable characters a bit more tolerable.

For that matter, even the actors playing Ninad and Bhavani could introduce variety in how they react to Sai. They always give that one expression where they bulge their eyes out.


Thanks for voicing it out, i had started feeling i am the one who is Delusional when it comes to Pakhi's character. She is inconsistent and i am unable to relate to anything she does. I cant relate to any scene she is in. She killed todays scene as well. Everyone was bang on with their expressions but she goes from "What are you saying?" The way her character is it should read "What did you say?

Either she has not understood well or she is not able to present it well. I mentioned this in Janki's post yesterday writing can not be an issue as they are copy pasting. They have tried to be creative with other people for instance Virat (he is more sensitive in this version), Sai (she is assertive and not rude) but Pakhi ka samjh hi nahi aata karna kya hain.

She killed the scene yesterday as well. And she pulls down the essence of the entire scene which is played out. If she gets so much of screen space, she might want to work on it and actually deliver. I am sure people do give feedback to her, but thing is its getting worse day by day. I think till the valentines day sequence the scenes were good but from the Ladakh fiasco i find her scenes OTT.


Sorry just my view point, i feel like stopping to watch the series as its getting Blahhh

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think the biggest part of playing a character is accepting who they are, just because they are negative doe not mean you are negative IRL, but aishwarya is not accepting what pakhi feels.. We only hear about her dignity, maturity etc etc but she will never say it upfront that pakhi still loves virat and cannot see him with anyone else... Dost ke tag ke peeche chup rahi hai woh



and all of this affects her ability to portray pakhi... not a comparision here but hina khan played komolika and she was fantastic as her especially after seeing her as akshara..

There was acceptance of the fact that it is a negative character and thats how I should ppotray it...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: LoLo

@bold especially but I like your entire post.

thank you. i don't know about today's episode as i watch the show at 8 p.m. on t.v. your post made me think in a different direction which i didn't think before. it might be true that playing the negative character is difficult for her but i am sensing something else. the way the actress defends her character makes me wonder if the CVs actually think of her as a victim. i think she is not shown depicting negative gestures because not only Aishwarya but perhaps also CVs don't think she is negative. if that is the case, her expressions are on point. if the CVs don' think of a character as a vamp/villain, there is no way audience backlash is going to work. many a time audience knows perfectly if the character is wrong but creatives don't think in the same direction. the character is clearly wrong but CVs portray her as a good person and i am not talking about Patralekha here. CVs become blind to the faults of their character and often something very annoying and funny thing happens. the character hurts and abuses others and cries too like a victim. it is actually very funny but most of the time very frustrating to watch. there is often discrepancy in the way the CVs see a character and the way audience sees a character. when the hatred from the audience grows stronger CVs try to slip the wrongdoings of the character under the carpet. then they try to take away what the audience likes in audience's favorite character (whatever makes them, them) and when they fail miserably either the actor/actress who is being whitewashed quit the show or the CVs make the other actor/actress (the one people like) leave the show and bring in a new actor to play the role and audience is unable to connect to the new actor. this way they can make their favorite character shine as much as they want. i have seen this happening before. this is a no win game. the show suffers. i hope that is not the case here. i usually have no interest in off screen drama but even when i didn't see off screen drama in other shows, the impact of off screen politics was crystal clear in those serials. i have seen many potential characters go to the dogs because of this. Maybe it is not politics. but discrepancy between how the audience sees the show and character and how the CVs see them is quite visible. It might seem far fetched. but when you have seen something like this happen before many times, you see it coming before it does. i still hope what i wrote in the earlier post is true and the online stuff doesn't get ruined because of this different thinking/offline politics whatever it is.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Svt611

I think the biggest part of playing a character is accepting who they are, just because they are negative doe not mean you are negative IRL, but aishwarya is not accepting what pakhi feels.. We only hear about her dignity, maturity etc etc but she will never say it upfront that pakhi still loves virat and cannot see him with anyone else... Dost ke tag ke peeche chup rahi hai woh



and all of this affects her ability to portray pakhi... not a comparision here but hina khan played komolika and she was fantastic as her especially after seeing her as akshara..

There was acceptance of the fact that it is a negative character and thats how I should ppotray it...

Totally agree. An actor/ actress should first convince himself / herself about the charecter traits. Like you said,she is not ready to adopt the essence of Pakhi’s charecter. I also think director being her friend is not able to guide her properly for obvious reasons and the end result is horrible.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bluegrass

Oh, for the longest time, I have been thinking of how Jennifer would have nailed the role. I really cannot think of anything that Aishwarya brings to the table. There is no portrayal of love-scorned. She behaves like a cuckolded wife but doesn't actually dwell on her feelings for Virat.

He's a khilona to her, truly. I don't even think she's ever nfatuated with him. As if he was a trigger to her obsessive proclivities and now it's much beyond him. And, with all due respect to their personal lives, their chemistry did not translate on-screen at all. I did not actually see the life-altering spark that Pakhi and Virat kept on testifying. Maybe Aishwarya really struggles with subtleties or maybe the crew has botched up her role royally.

It's very hard to feel anything for Pakhi apart from her need to see a therapist. Her parents really need to take a stand because their vulnerable daughter is being exploited by that narcissistic kaku. But, then again, they have been spineless parents.


@bold- Absolutely. Jennifer is one of the GOAT TV actresses, she would've been brilliant as both Sai and Pakhi. And had Jennifer been Pakhi, I think there genuinely would've been some VirKhi shippers since she would've convinced us that two days or not, the connection between them was real. A major reason why the viewers aren't able to relate to Pakhi is because the internal storm is not just coming on to the screen. Before the show started, Pakhi's tagline was "Zakham kisi aur ka aur dard sahe koi aur"- literally SO MUCH could have been done with this. Very few actors can rise above shoddy writing and Neil certainly is one of them. But I don't think the writing is letting down Aishwarya. Her material is at par with Sai's in terms of layers and nuances but she is just not able to go beyond the shocked and 'beizzati' wala expression.


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Even her parents were giving Sai-Virat the betrayed lovers look, we can hardly expect anything from them. Her father and mother seem sensible sporadically. They need to sit her down and knock some sense into her.

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