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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I would not say he played the victim card but his need to keep them on the same platform and fault both of them when it PP who is clearly the instigator, was disturbing. And he was not actually chastising Sai but PP only but it kind of brought forth his thought process on why he chooses to remain silent most of the times -- he thinks they have a problem with each other without actually thinking that he is the problem. He feels crushed between them but the problem is that his silence has let both of them interpret their place in ways that are totally different from his perspective -- he thinks of Sai as his wife and PP as Samrat's but both PP and Sai believe he loves PP but then the delusional imaginary wife that PP is feels Sai is snatching him from her so she directs all her anger at Sai. He needs to address this before asking them to kill him and each other, all his frustration understood. He needs to clear the mess he has created. I also had a problem with the reference to his adjectives used for Sai. He was using it to reflect the irony of the situation and not to actually call her by those names, but it does make one feel that somewhere he still believes she is nasamajh and immature -- because he did not attribute it to the others but said it as his own words with "Maana ki wo aisi hai..." It means he continues to believe it somewhere as

Now, I have a question -- had Virat not given her the Vaada, would PP have called off the wedding to Samrat? I think not because she would have then married him in vengeance and still been around Virat. (I would like to hear what people think about this)

yes she would have married samrat ... just to make virat jealous .and be around him ..

Originally posted by: linakusharberry

Awesome Analysis janki , loved it , u just covered it all ,

Well onething I wanna say they better take pakhi for a councelling session asap she is really living in a dilutional world this is not right I mean sach mein uski mental state affect hoga

I think of all the people around her, it is only her parents who actually know what she's going through because they know the exact truth behind her reason to marry and also her anguish. I find it so absurd that they don't think it is necessary for them to save their daughter from his mindless self-destruction and drill some sense into her with professional help if needed. Her father came across as sensible in the beginning, turned totally shameless in regard with Sai, but then today, he again tried to make her see reality. In the end, he shut up because she did not want to hear the truth. What is the point?

And precap Iam nit jumping into conclusion well while holding her hand virat was having tears in his eyes while saying that ,bas I hope there is no hand twisting wagera haath pakadna hi kaafi hai please

We must see the episode yes and he might over-react because Sai will not want to tell him where she is going in front of the family. I already feel I won't be mad at him for that 😆 Sorry, but I can already collect chappals at me for this now.

Waiseh bhi mujhe utna pasand nahi aya episode , and I really hope abseh virat gets to see the real nature of her and be firm with her and show her limit

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Virats behaviour iam waiting for episode , bandeh ko solid jatka wala jawab diya hoga sai warna tears in his eyes not possible either she would have reminded him of their deal yah phir u r noone to me dialogue which nowadays stab his heart yah phir apni baiko ki saath time nah spend karneh ki wajah bhi hosakti hai , well after today's episode onething I felt is that sai is gonna ignore virat aur miya ko yeah digest nahi hoga

Originally posted by: jane_austen

The episode was all over the place. I hope that it wasn't so just to create drama-without attention to consistency.

Given how we are constantly being told that Pakhi is a 'grey character', I don't think she had planned for an EMA with Virat when she married Samrat. Even today, in her monologue, she wanted to list her complaints to Virat, hoping he would put her feelings above anything else. I think just the day before her wedding, Pakhi had watched the movie "Devadas". When Virat refused to marry her , the trauma caused her to reimagine herself as Paro. She would marry the man she did not love, perform her wifely duties, be 'faithful' in her marriage but she would always hold a flame for her Devadas. 🤣She expected Virat to likewise wallow in his sorrow just like Devadas - it would give her sufficient ego boost to be the centre of someone's self-destructive life. But unfortunately for her, Virat has moved on.

She may have not planned a "physical affair" until now but she definitely wanted an "emotional marriage" with him and not Samrat. I don't think she was grey to begin with but she was manipulative and self-centered to the extent that she doesn't mind destroying herself or the object of her obsession if she can't have it. I agree with your Devdas comparison -- of course, she wanted Virat to live alone for the rest of his life and continue to brood over losing her, yearning for her and burning in the fire of watching her with Samrat. If Samrat had not left and been around to woo her, she would have even played along to spite Virat at times if he didn't toe her line and Sai was not in the picture. I still don't think she wants to "go to bed" with Virat as much as want the "WHOLE" of him, which includes the emotional marriage and putting her before anyone else around. Right now it is Sai, but if Sai wasn't there, she would have had such meltdowns if he gave preference to Ashwini or even Shivani, let's assume. Because, she cannot tolerate not being at the centre of the attention. That's why i ask: Would she not have married Samrat if Virat had not given her the vaada after he refused to marry her? I think she would have, in vengeance.

As @neeraja wrote, Sai was so hurt, she did not even want to fight. 😭 When Ashwini suggested that SaiRat go somewhere else, Sai became attentive to Virat's reply; only to be disappointed. I saw a broken girl today . And Virat's expression when Sai offers to withdraw from the trip really irritated me. He was feeling 'proud' of her sacrifice when he should have felt bad.

Yes, she waited for his answer and because he said no, she also said No aloud. But I think even if he had said Yes, she would have still not gone for the fact that she was tagged as 'mauka parasth' wanting an outing with the husband. She would have still refused the outing.

@bold: I thought is pride was not about the fact that she withdrew from the trip but because he saw how selfless she was even to someone like PP, who leaves no stone unturned to demean her. It was not just his pride but also a sense of vindication that he felt at having trusted Sai to be more understanding in the situation that PP and she had proven him right by still offering to stay back to allow Patralekha to have her way. I don't think if PP had taken Sai's offer, Virat would have gone. He would have definitely said we won't if Sai doesn't come now. And of course, he did feel bad about the way Sai had to hear whatever nonsense from everyone.

@bold This is why many of us feel Virat is two-timing. He may not be technically cheating but is still enjoying the attention he gets from 2 women(either consciously or subconsciously). That is a big no no - especially since one of them is his brother's wife. Either that or he is too stupid to understand that Pakhi has not moved on - which is incredulous to us. Either way it is a huge plot hole that is kind of ruining the story.

I don't actually think he is enjoying it. It is draining him out otherwise he wouldn't have spoken of the Talwar. It is actually like a double-edged sword -- but today's scene should make him realise that Sai actually doesn't hold any talwaar to his neck. It is PP and the family that have the swords for him. Sai is actually trying to step back but she wouldn't take insults lying down. The "honeymoon" remark was offensive from PP because : a) Sai has not imagined a honeymoon with Virat yet - they are not there yet. It is an uncomfortable thought, and b) PP has no business to ask if it was a honeymoon or not anyway.

He shouldn't have taken Sai's response to the "dushmani between you two" level because it wasn't dushmani but indignation. And his only way out is to accept that his jalebis are not working and he needs to address the issue, remembering the vaada he has forgotten and clear the doubt that vahini has. But then, he still needs to acknowledge his raw feelings for Sai to be able to do that spashtly to clear the misconception that Sai has.

Loved your view on how the toxicity women face on a daily basis feels trivial for men spending majority of the day outside the home.

Bhavani seems a classic case of a narcissist. Anyone who toes her line becomes her chaheeta, those who are subservient to her (because they have no choice) - she crushes them even more and those brave enough to oppose her become her enemies - she sharpens her claw for the day she can pick up her imaginary enemies and dispose them off.

The most truthful lines came from an unlikely source today - Ninad.

Ninad to Pakhi : Tumse ummeed kar raha hai maturity ki..

MACHOORITY MY FOOT! (Salute major Saab)

Ninad to Virat : Kahaan hai tumhari maturity aur samajhdaari (ab situation ko itna under estimate karne se savaal to aayega hi ACP saab)

Loved Ninad today - he was unwittingly wise 😆

Ninad was definitely a joker in the entire scene. But yes, his responses were true by default 😆

Precap : Comparing Sai to a gunda 🤬. And the way he held her hand looked rough - next week will be make or break .

He will do it wrong. But his reason for the action could be right in principle. Let's wait to see...

Originally posted by: yyyy

When Virat was talking about talwar, it was not about the current issue or recent incidents. He was talking about their history. I am talking from Virat’s pov he has seen Sai being rude to Pakhi for no reason hence he feels they are ready to fight. Few incidents I can think of is, during one of their wedding ritual Sai insults Pakhi by saying “ you didn't find anyone to be my mentor”. If I remember clearly Pakhi hadn't shown her true face yet. These incidents made him say that. When he was talking about their fights, his anger was directed towards Pakhi, not Sai. His body language gave it away and even Sai realized that. She didn't look offended because she knew what his intentions were.

Until now he believed Pakhi has a problem with Sai but after this incident, his opinion has changed he needs time to process all this. Going by his nature, he won't say it loud but will come out when he is vulnerable.

Regarding adjectives, I didn't find anything offensive. He was trying to make a point and not listing her shortcomings . He asserted she was more sensitive, sensible among the people present in the hall . He said 101 things in Sai’s favor and if he said something without bad intention , I don’t want to criticize him for that . Intentions matters

Nitu!! He did everything right. I agree that he was questioning PP but his choice of reference word "Maana ki wo nasamajh hai..." was a problem. In that moment, unknowingly, he reinforced the belief that everyone carries about Sai. I understood that he was using it as an irony to show PP the mirror but well, the whole gang that is forever ready to mob lynch that poor soul doesn't use its discerning mind to understand. They will latch on to the fact that he thinks she is nasamajh and immature. Which is what happened when Ninad supported PP's "Main hi mature kyun banu"... No one got his point and it was almost as if they mutually agreed that Sai's immaturity caused all the riot about Ladakh. They are all going to hold it against Sai forever. And yes, as you asked yesterday as well, it would have happened anyway but then as Virat said, had he told them that he was planning to take her along, earlier, and not at the last minute, they would have blamed him as well and not just Sai for "patti padhana"... The trip was going to be cancelled and I am surprised at how much he overestimated the maturity of his "best friend"... In the end, the one person who was actually crushed was Sai.

He wasn't trying to list her shortcomings but actually show them that their notion about her is misplaced but the words did exactly the opposite in that moment. I am not even criticising him for this remark -- it can be passed but he definitely does not want to acknowledge why there is bad blood between them. In the initial episodes, Sai wasn't reacting to insult PP but because he was pushing PP on to her without showing sensitivity -- even at that time, she kept telling him how it is not needed and the point she was trying to make is the same: PP will not like it. She said it even during their marriage ritual, "You have hurt Pakhi by marrying me. Even if I leave you eventually, her hurt will be irreversible." Throughout the rituals in the house, she could see Pakhi's flowing tears and crestfallen face but Virat was still pushing PP to dress up the bride -- he was being insensitive just like he is insensitive to Sai's feelings in this matter at times. His need to have the two women embrace each other without acknowledging that he is actually the bone of contention between them is a problem. I don't know if it is his lack of understanding all this while or his sheer lack of empathy of what two women feel because he has never really seen the pain of a woman or anyone in his house to understand why they are in pain. His response to possible pain has been "oh, what can i sacrifice to console them" instead of finding the cause and uprooting it from the root. He's doing the same thing here by expecting them to like each other and talk about their differences on a trip to Ladakh without even understanding the delusion of Vahini and the anguish of his wife, who he's begun to accept and expects the same acceptance from her too. So, to bring them on one platform and tell them that they are each other's dushmans is a problem.

I am sure when Sai asks him these very questions about his own culpability in this emotional mess that PP and she are going through, he is going to lose his mind. I really hope he wakes up and does the expected at least now.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good morning lovelies! 🌄🌻🌻🌺🌺

Bappa kasam, if this word maturity is said again for the next one year, I will physically tear the page containing the word from every dictionary I can lay my hands on, exactly how my Dukhiyaari Didi tore the print out of the e-ticket which didn't have Sai's name and threw the pieces at Sai's face. I will also tear the pages into pieces and throw it at the screen when Chakram niwasis beam from it. Of course, I will also completely ignore the existence of e-dictionaries that can't be torn. 😖🙊😳😐

So Maturity ki moorthi cracked and the immaturity hiding inside was out even as far-from-mature retired army man questioned the maturity of his IPS officer son in hiding the truth that his wife was going to join him on the honeymoon otherwise planned for him and his vahini by the immensely mature and purane khayalato wale acche dil Ke Ghar ke bade. The maturity of the most-mature person -- Sai -- was dragged into the debate in words like nasamajh and akhad and even though she still showed why she was the most matured by licensing the honeymoon of the Vahini-gone-vedi with her mere-kuch-nahi-lagte husband, the honeymoon flight never took off for the lack of maturity by Mrs MIA (in absence of clarity on her surname), who threw the packed suitcase right in front of the blessed photo of her MIA husband to shed tears of her loss of maturity mask in front of her biggest immature enemy. 🤯🤯 Okay, I just detoxified my brain from the maturity assault. Oh wait, in the end, it was Ashwini who taught Godu the definition of maturity.. I hope the subject of maturity has finally been completed after 113 episodes. In between this, Sonali also called Patralekha as 'Pakhi' today? 😮

Vahini ka meltdown complete hua... Thankfully they showed intelligence by not making it out as if by tearing the printouts ott ticket she had closed doors to board the flight. Virat still went to fetch her bag but well, 'Main Sai ko bada kaise ban ne deti' wo bhi after she has already made a place in his heart? But Sai toh hamesha hi badi rahegi because despite all the hurt she was still the one who genuinely understood the woman's angst and conceded to her need to want to go alone with 'imaginary husband'. What a moment that was when Sai placed her hand on Patralekha's shoulder to still try to console her. In that moment not only did Sai free herself of the charge of being 'mauka-parasth' (whatever it means in the context of husband wife outing) but also reinforced the trust that she has in Virat without even saying it -- she was genuinely okay with only the two of them going right from the beginning because she never doubted Virat's intentions and has always considered herself the third ticket anyway. Despite being called names, being at the receiving end of the rant of the 'cheated imaginary wife', she was the one to gather composure and also her compassion that she's made of -- it was good that she made it clear that she did not want to go on the journey to begin with. She never wanted to ruin this journey for Patralekha, no matter how much it would have hurt her if her husband had actually gone without her. Will it shake vahini out of her delusions? It might push her deeper into the feeling of being 'deceived'.

Okay, so now: Virat trying to make it sound like "you both are at loggerheads and I am sandwiched" is problematic... It was said in a moment of frustration and not as much to Sai as to the Mallika-e-Maturity and he was in a hurry to still attempt to make the trip happen against the time running out but blaming both of them for the unpleasant situation between them was still misplaced at this moment. He knew it was far from the truth. Sai had only barely reacted to the honeymoon taunt made by the "cheated imaginary wife" and so did Ashwini... it didn't deserve the chastising retort at all. He has this extremely urgent need to just shut up Aai and Sai when he knows the argument of the opposition is hollow.

He only needs to hand over one talwaar to the 'best friend' and one to his 'acche Dil Ke' Ghar wale. They are the ones baying for his blood and also Sai's. Waise bhi, Sai doesn't need any talwaar because she can simply say, "Aap mere Kuch Nahi Lagte" and kill him as it is 😏😛

Jokes apart, yes he called out his family's need to escalate drama and add fuel to the fire instead of being the samajhdaar bade of the house who can diffuse situations -- what a tragedy that there's not even one elder member in that house who can diffuse a situation. Ashwini tries but fails we know. And Mansi - she doesn't even want to come out of her room to say bye to her susheel bahu who's going to her missing son's base station without having anything to do with him? Aisi Kaunsi samadhi lekar baithi hai?

Coming back to the talwaar rant-- Why does he even think of it as both women having a problem with each other? It is more than evident now if there was any doubt even after he himself acknowledged during the Mohit meal incident that it is PP who taunts and Sai retorts and so she shouldn't begin if she can't handle the replies. Now, again, by equating their actions-reactions at the same level, he's diluted the whole point he was trying to make or seeming to make in taking a stand for Sai. He expressed his displeasure to remarks and objected at the right places throughout -- from his father to the Kakus and of course the ved lagleli vahini. But, ultimately, if Sai is "equally" culpable in his eyes as Venomous Vahini for picking fights because it's a given that she's 'immature, akhad and nasamajh', then I think this guy really deserves to be sandwiched 😖 More importantly, but, why does he have to feel sandwiched?! He hasn't even spared a thought for his own culpability. One is his wife and another is his cousin's wife-- there should be no scope for feeling sandwiched or getting affected by their animosity if he doesn't think that he's the cause of it. It is convenient for him to blame both the women for having a problem without even introspecting over the mess he has created between them. So, if he's clear in his mind that he has moved on then it is time for him to regard his 'missed opportunity at love' as his vahini and restrict it to that. Not every failed lover can be a 'friend'. And, if he still feels he hasn't reached the point where he can call her 'vahini', then he needs to release Sai of his spousal expectations and let her breathe without having to worry about his hangry-for-attention/affection outbursts. It will probably allow both women to think of themselves rather than keeping him at the center of their existence and actions.

And if he thinks he is not the cause of their friction and they have a problem with one another where he doesn't even exist, then he should just leave it at that and continue to believe he doesn't exist. What's the need to want to get them together on a trip to 'patch up'? That too, when he's giving his "meri samajhdaari par shakh mat kijiye" gyaan because 'main Jaanta hoon kaun Kaisa hai'. It's definitely not Sai's need to patch up with this venomous snake. Virat can keep all of her poison for his own consumption if he's confused even a bit about her intentions and motivations from here on. Does he really not know her intentions? Now, I find it hard to believe he doesn't.

It was his grand plan to keep Sai's presence on the trip a secret and it was entirely his motivation to take Sai along. Of course, she would have wanted to go but she knew the repercussions better than him -- it is because for majority of the taunts that she's had to bear, he has been absent and by the virtue of being involved in the affairs at home, she's more tuned to predicting the outcomes.

It is true even in real life when we see family conflicts and wonder why the men think so lightly of some really nasty things their families do -- even Virat. It is because whether we like it or not, the fact is that it is the woman who spends more time in the toxic environment of the house than the man and so, the brunt of it is borne by the woman directly, more than the man can imagine. One scene or two occuring in front of a man seems "trivial" and they find it easier to pass it off. Yet, Virat has freshly acquired knowledge about "yakeen Nahi ho Raha hai" moments of his house -- denying members meals as per the whim of the egoistic matriarch; people turning against the purest soul who stood up to injustice just to pull her down; the maid-servant like treatment to the wife -- he had not liked Sai calling it 'naukaron wale kaam' but that's exactly how she's treated here; absolute lack of empathy for her loss and grief despite being 'acche Dil Ke' according to him and even utmost contempt at her mere existence.

For a change, it was her father, who gave Patralekha the practical advice. I had been wondering whether the parents knew about this trip and they did... Obviously, they were okay with the imaginary son-in-law going with the daughter because they have raised her to get whatever she pleases and must have not questioned her to begin with on this matter. But today, after her 'dhokha' rant, the father did show her the mirror -- it was pleasantly surprising because Mohite-Patil senior has been pretty unabahsed in the past -- and he asked the right question: "What is wrong with his wife accompanying him? It is natural and shouldn't be a problem..." But of course, Rani bitiya did not want to hear "what I don't want to hear", which is the truth. Although, it is difficult to continue conversations at such times over the phone, this has been the inherent pattern for the Mohite-Patil parents here-- to stop the correction or showing the mirror midway the moment they find the daughter in a state of denial. The next step is to allow her to live in her delusions or take decisions the are self-destructive but blamed on someone else.

It's clear that Patralekha does suffer from some kind of delusional disorder experiences -- not just as a joke we crack but from the very fact that she actually believes in situations that are nonexistent in real life -- her biggest delusion is ther of 'being deceived in the love from a distance'. She does not actually plan the manipulation but it occurs so naturally to her because it comes from her delusionary misinterpretation of perceptions of experiences. She knows the 'trump cards' and 'triggers' that she can use and in that sense, she is aware.

"Main tumhe Samrat ke har kaam se aazad Karti hoon" was a trump used at the moment to manipulate the emotion -- to be able to cover up the show that she had just put up, which had nothing to do with Samrat to begin with. The statement left everyone surprised -- Virat and Sai surprised for real because they are the only ones who know how interested she really is in Samrat or his work to begin with, and the rest of the family surprised-sad, sympathising with the 'lonely wajoodless wife' 😐🙄 Waise, why didn't she really go with her Baba? 🤔 Ab jis Sawaal Ka jawab pata ho wo poochna hi Kyun? But does she really think she has the 'right' to free Virat from Samrat's work? How conveniently can she meet his eyes and lie, blatantly using the brother as a card to guilt trip her imaginary husband?

Her other tools for manipulation -- unplanned but spontaneously coming out from her awareness - "Mujhe Tumhari help ki zaroorat Nahi hai, ye kaam main akele bhi Kar Sakti hoon"... "Mujhe akele rehne ki aadat ho gayi hai"... were all used in the right place and did also make the sympathisers believe in the genuineness of her hurt. But four other people apart from her own self knew that in her moment of meltdown, she had completely exposed herself 'wife feeling cheated' and cut a sorry figure -- Virat, Sai, Ashwini and Bhavani. And Sai was the bigger person of the two -- she always was and will be.

We may think Bhavani is unaware but she isn't. Right from her 'babool ke ped par aam' comment to herforeboding statement about the 'mistake' Sai will eventually make due to her 'taur tareeka' was her way of consoling the angst of the delusional 'cheated wife'. There is no "vahini" here and although Bhavani's intentions have not been clearly stated behind choosing and pushing Patralekha to drive the wedge between Sai and Virat "tum hi ho jo Kar Sakti ho", she is definitely using Patralekha's absolute contempt for Sai to reclaim the chaheeta beta. I am still not sure if Bhavani means to push Patralekha into a relationship with Virat because it doesn't come across as a plan although she uses words to suggest so to boost Patralekha's ego as the 'wife' she clearly seems to be.

Sonali and Karishma are officially the two typically caricaturish vamps actually. The can only instigate where they are being heard. They know where they will be heard and where they won't so they pass comments to add insult to injury and derive pleasure in seeing the wounds lacerate. Such characters don't deserve sympathy and can't have redemption.

The very short scene in the bedroom where Sai displayed her hurt while taking off her bangles was touching-- she was hurt and upset. And it came across as being upset with her own decision to agree to join the trip. She shouldn't have because in the end, she was the one accused convicted of a crime she never even committed. Glad that Virat saw how it affects Sai and how silently she has been absorbing the pain that remains even after trying to defend her during the attack. He stood up for her during the entire fiasco, no doubt. He asked the right questions and he called out the disparity in the compassion being shown to one bahu in pain and being denied to the other. He owned her as his 'wife' and despite digressing to the talwaar suggestion, he knew she wasn't at fault all along -- I hope he's making mental notes of how her tiny dreams are shattered in the house on every day basis -- and this is a girl who lives her life finding happiness in those very tiny moments, her education is a joke for the family and she works as a maid and is even treated like one. It is such a poignant replay of what his mother must have gone through-- only if he can see what it would mean to Sai if he were to follow the footsteps of his father.

The consolation is that the husband wife didn't appear mad at each other yet. But it is going to bring back some distance and silence between them for a bit it seems. Virat looks really 'hangry' for her attention in the Precap with tears in his eyes. Let's see how the roller coaster is going to turn from here.

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When someone we love, leaves -- in death or desertion -- the memories should remind us that it is life offering a second chance. One needn't be bound to the past or how it felt living those moments that are gone. The future may not bring the same journey with the same people but one can unfailingly and unapologetically restart without justifying one's raw feelings during difficult times. One can and must distance from insecure people who want you to fail. Those who walk with you, won’t need you to explain the beauty of your heart. They already understand that you're also on a roller coaster ride that will go up slowly and suddenly drop in ways that will make you screech but in the end, it will halt and let you be.

Do people change? Or is it only the masks that change (Covid wale Nahi 😅)

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Oh boy what an episode Atleast the first 15 mins

It was exhausting at one point, thanks Janki your analysis paved way to watch it till the end.

There were some good things in today’s episode Aai Aur Godu ne Kuch achche sawal kiya. But the problem Aai knows the answer but Godu is clueless

Question of the day “what’s the problem if she comes along” & What’s bothering you? Both went unanswered in Zillat arena but were answered later by her in her room infront of Sonali and Karishma.... “She has made a place in his heart”

May be a different opinion, but i didn’t find his dialogue offensive, yes said it fine you think she is immature, Stubborn etc but even after that she could think of you. But you are not like that. That’s a way of slapping someone.

Also I didn’t find Sai’s question offensive she retorted righty on the honeymoon part. He stopped her but didn’t say anything to Sai but to Vahini. Hope now he doesn’t swing, the apology better be limited to Baiko.

The showdown had to happen, and she was anyways going to decline as rightly said by you Janki. she wasn’t going to let Sai win and let her be Mahan. But Vahini missed a point here, with her behaviour she just opened a gate to Virat’s heart for Sai to enter. He was contemplating, but vahini just handed over the key.
Well this answers my question what was the need of the track. I must say they did present this one well, better than the original

The mirror scene was beautiful, no words but spoke volumes. First I thought Aai entered at the wrong time, nope she did enter at the right time. Chavan Saheb needed to understand the word maturity for real. And the girl needs space mostly from him.

I also appreciate Pakhi’s dad, he gives her the right advice and explains but some people love to be delusional.

Coming to the precap, will let it unfold but one thing is for sure. Man is hurt, the wife has given him a silent treatment. And he is going to hurt her and get hurt even more in that process.

Hopefully this time he realises that he has hurt her, last time the moment was lost with Vahini coming in the picture and also now the equations have changed with both Vahini and Baiko.

We have to see how it unfolds, I will live on your analysis Janki for the next week.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I would not say he played the victim card but his need to keep them on the same platform and fault both of them when it PP who is clearly the instigator, was disturbing. And he was not actually chastising Sai but PP only but it kind of brought forth his thought process on why he chooses to remain silent most of the times -- he thinks they have a problem with each other without actually thinking that he is the problem. He feels crushed between them but the problem is that his silence has let both of them interpret their place in ways that are totally different from his perspective -- he thinks of Sai as his wife and PP as Samrat's but both PP and Sai believe he loves PP but then the delusional imaginary wife that PP is feels Sai is snatching him from her so she directs all her anger at Sai. He needs to address this before asking them to kill him and each other, all his frustration understood. He needs to clear the mess he has created. I also had a problem with the reference to his adjectives used for Sai. He was using it to reflect the irony of the situation and not to actually call her by those names, but it does make one feel that somewhere he still believes she is nasamajh and immature -- because he did not attribute it to the others but said it as his own words with "Maana ki wo aisi hai..." It means he continues to believe it somewhere as he has always subscribed to that view. He has not yet acknowledged how she has actually changed and taken his advice to tone done after the Amey episode, where she was doing taana kasai on the elders when he walked in and blasted her.

@bold: You might disagree but i do understand the loneliness she is speaking about. The fact is Patralekha is lonely. Having the crowd around you doesn't take away that loneliness which only a partner can fill. This is why society urges people to marry. Companionship from a spouse and the "belonging" to that one person is very different from having a dozen members in the family around you. So, definitely, she is lonely but it is her own doing. She cannot expect this loneliness to be filled by anyone except the husband she chose. And it was she who had chosen Samrat, when everyone around her told her to say No if she didn't have the heart to do it. Virat cannot be blamed for pushing her to marry Samrat - this I have maintained since the beginning. Virat only egged her to not change her choice -- the decision was hers. To make matters worse, she is stuck in the past and wants to blame someone else for her own misplaced choices. She married Samrat physically but mentally she latched on to Virat and his vaada and continues to be the delusional 'wife'.

Now, I have a question -- had Virat not given her the Vaada, would PP have called off the wedding to Samrat? I think not because she would have then married him in vengeance and still been around Virat. (I would like to hear what people think about this)

No, not at all. Her decision to marry samrat would have changed only in one situation, i.e., virat marrying her in the same mandap. Otherwise, come what may she would have married Samrat.. now she has covered it under the "bhankas vaada" and if the vaada wasn't there she'd marry for the revengeful nature as you said. Pakhi is definitely self centered and egoistic and I'd like to add, over sensitive. The reason that I feel is that being the only daughter of an apparently rich "shahnav kul" family she has got every wish of hers good or bad fulfilled without any effort or problem, so even if the smallest of things don't go her way she takes it on her ego.. that is what she did by immediately accepting to get married to samrat when she thought virat had left her.

I also feel that she herself has a very low self esteem, that's why maybe she feels everything to be an offence (beizzati) against her. I know she calls everything that sai says to be beizzati coz she just wants to demean her in front of virat. But her lack of self esteem is a bigger reason for that. I don't know if she was like this before but maybe she is loosing her self worth in front of her own self coz she can see someone else taking a more important place in virat's life.

I just fail to understand why her parents don't make any efforts to put some sense into the girl.. just because she doesn't want to listen to anything unpleasant and against her whims and fancies and they don't want to upset her?! Then I'd say that more than her, her parents are responsible for her delusional state, for making her so over sensitive and doing only what she pleases.

Regarding the precap, I won't jump the gun, but I agree that any husband would ask the wife about where she's going on a sunday afternoon, that too when the husband is "hangry virat" and moreover, when he hasn't heard of the professor and she too is reluctant to give away the details. These are cases when I get pissed off with sai, I mean why can't she take virat into confidence before the makad gang pounce and bharo his kaan (oh sorry, forgot fir serial kaise banega🙄😜)

Virat is definitely going to hurt her and get hurt himself many times more. But what I don't want to see is the kind of domestic violence that other versions apparently showcased. It's disgraceful on the part of not only an IPS but also it doesn't really go with Virat's personality. But let's see how it unfolds!

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

She may have not planned a "physical affair" until now but she definitely wanted an "emotional marriage" with him and not Samrat. I don't think she was grey to begin with but she was manipulative and self-centered to the extent that she doesn't mind destroying herself or the object of her obsession if she can't have it. I agree with your Devdas comparison -- of course, she wanted Virat to live alone for the rest of his life and continue to brood over losing her, yearning for her and burning in the fire of watching her with Samrat. If Samrat had not left and been around to woo her, she would have even played along to spite Virat at times if he didn't toe her line and Sai was not in the picture. I still don't think she wants to "go to bed" with Virat as much as want the "WHOLE" of him, which includes the emotional marriage and putting her before anyone else around. Right now it is Sai, but if Sai wasn't there, she would have had such meltdowns if he gave preference to Ashwini or even Shivani, let's assume. Because, she cannot tolerate not being at the centre of the attention. That's why i ask: Would she not have married Samrat if Virat had not given her the vaada after he refused to marry her? I think she would have, in vengeance.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

What put me off was his state of denial about the reason why there is animosity between the two women. I really don't think he doesn't know. If he had any doubts it would have been cleared today.

@blue 👍🏼. I guess you are right - the level of obsession that she has shown definitely makes it seem like she would have married Samrat anyway irrespective of vaada. What still intrigues me is why Virat gave such a promise (remaining unattached all his life)- or rather why he thought such a promise would be appealing to anyone in the first place.

@red This part of the plot has really bugged me. So even though a part of him knows Pakhi's intentions, he is in denial about it? Can people really be in denial about something this huge?

Originally posted by: Sakmen

No, not at all. Her decision to marry samrat would have changed only in one situation, i.e., virat marrying her in the same mandap. Otherwise, come what may she would have married Samrat.. now she has covered it under the "bhankas vaada" and if the vaada wasn't there she'd marry for the revengeful nature as you said. Pakhi is definitely self centered and egoistic and I'd like to add, over sensitive. The reason that I feel is that being the only daughter of an apparently rich "shahnav kul" family she has got every wish of hers good or bad fulfilled without any effort or problem, so even if the smallest of things don't go her way she takes it on her ego.. that is what she did by immediately accepting to get married to samrat when she thought virat had left her.

I also feel that she herself has a very low self esteem, that's why maybe she feels everything to be an offence (beizzati) against her. I know she calls everything that sai says to be beizzati coz she just wants to demean her in front of virat. But her lack of self esteem is a bigger reason for that. I don't know if she was like this before but maybe she is loosing her self worth in front of her own self coz she can see someone else taking a more important place in virat's life.

I just fail to understand why her parents don't make any efforts to put some sense into the girl.. just because she doesn't want to listen to anything unpleasant and against her whims and fancies and they don't want to upset her?! Then I'd say that more than her, her parents are responsible for her delusional state, for making her so over sensitive and doing only what she pleases.

Regarding the precap, I won't jump the gun, but I agree that any husband would ask the wife about where she's going on a sunday afternoon, that too when the husband is "hangry virat" and moreover, when he hasn't heard of the professor and she too is reluctant to give away the details. These are cases when I get pissed off with sai, I mean why can't she take virat into confidence before the makad gang pounce and bharo his kaan (oh sorry, forgot fir serial kaise banega🙄😜)

Virat is definitely going to hurt her and get hurt himself many times more. But what I don't want to see is the kind of domestic violence that other versions apparently showcased. It's disgraceful on the part of not only an IPS but also it doesn't really go with Virat's personality. But let's see how it unfolds!

Yes she can tell (and this the problem with the shows - varna story aage kaise badega).
But for her to tell, Navra Baiko need to be on the same page. Looking at them feels like Baika has given cold treatment to Navra and that’s the reaction we are getting. Yes no doubt he would be upset about her not telling, iska ek simple solution hain he can also go along. But ego ka hum phir Kya karenge achchar dalenge

Originally posted by: jane_austen

👍🏼. I guess you are right - the level of obsession that she has shown definitely makes it seem like she would have married Samrat anyway irrespective of vaada.

What still intrigues me is why Virat gave such a promise (remaining unattached all his life)- or rather why he thought such a promise would be appealing to anyone in the first place.

Desperate situations call for desperate measures, he wanted to avoid confrontation and diffuse the matter and in haste he promised (the most weirdest ever I have seen).

Well he was not going to break it but fate and then madam hate just gave him ammunition to open the door and let his Baiko enter.