Vulnerability, Loyalty and NPD - My takeaways - Page 2

Originally posted by: ArminArlert

It's just two days I am here and already a big fan of your writing 👏

Same with OP too👏

Thank you🤗

this is such a lovely lively place with so much real discussion on human behaviour with added humour that it can bring the best out of any mediocre writer too 😊

Originally posted by: XxSicMNDVSxX

First of all, I love your views and thoughts . I eagerly wait for them 😆

Coming to your post! It sums it up all 👏

Yes, Virat is going to fall for her. All these misunderstandings are going to make way for their love story. Virat will soon realise his mistakes and understand how gem of a person Sai is. I hope he doesn’t try Sai-Pakhi Milan again and gives Sai her privacy.

Yes! Sai wasn’t the problem, she’s the solution 👏

Brilliantly put up babe

Virat needs to acknowledge it asap.

Whatever you said about Pakhi, I think you are right. She does exhibit all those characteristics.
Again, brilliant analysis 👏

She not only envies Sai for her relation with Virat, but she somewhere in her heart wants to be strong like her, but she isn’t half strong as Sai is. She has a weak mind.

When Virat will realise how obsessive Pakhi is, I wonder how he’ll react

We all take away some different things from the episode, and when we discuss, it kind of complete the puzzle that the episode generally is.😆

I swear if one more time he ask Pakhi to give maturity gyaan to Sai😡🤣

Originally posted by: Eternized_Blues

@Bold- Word Keshni. I have been saying this from day one.

Sai is not letting him forget this ever.

@Red - He is already there.

In the end Pakhi will reveal her true colors herself.

I'll trust you on this, like I trusted you SaiRat's scene previously😆

Like a chamaleon, Pakhi has started shedding and she will show her true colours soon. The mask will slip, its only a matter of time now

Originally posted by: Chandu_500

nice post 👍🏼

responsibility eventually aadat banjaati hai that will soon transform into love.

dheere dheere he will feel protective about her as their bond grows and become stronger.

shurut keliye yeh buri nay hai, he already started developing feelings for sai. when she decided to sleep in other room, virat ko needh nay aayi😆

its just that virat bhi koyi kam stubborn nay hai. uske age ke hisaab se usme bhi bachpana hai.

this is the beauty of this show, leads hone ke baawjoob kisiko zyaada mahaan nay dikha rahe hai. which makes it more realistic to watch.

i just cant wait to see virat supporting sai and pakhi ko apni 'asli jagah dikhaye'

which i think will happen soon cuz i think sai will help Virat to get out of this professional mess that he is going through.

I kinda like how imperfect they are and how imperfect their relationship is right now. They've hit so many lows, that the curve can only go upward

I will wait for the day Vaadaboy tells his befriehini to take maturity and loyalty ka gyan from his baiko!! That day will go down in Chavan khandan's history, ke ek non shahanakulli Maratha bahu ne shahanakulli Maratha bahu ko gyan diya.

Originally posted by: D_e_s_t_i_n_y

Bang on post👏

Agar virat uss therapist ke paas lekar gaya toh mein kabhi khushi kabhi ghum movie ke tarah aarti ke thal lekar darawaje pe kadhi hoge.. Ye miracle hoga itv mein ...🤣

I'll be right beside you to wake you up from the dream. It is not going to happen🤣

WHOA, this is BRILLIANT, the NPD bit especially!

I just want to add on to the loyalty part. As you said, Sai is fiercely loyal. She will go to any extent now to go and get Virat's name cleared. This loyalty comes from the fact that Virat has stood by Sai on a number of occasions ever since they've come to this pagalkhana. She recognises all that Virat has done for her. But this si what I love about Sai- her loyalty will not take over her self-respect. She will do what she has to but she will not let go of all the mean things Virat said that easily. And I am happy that she doesn't blur the lines.

Now coming to the dread M word (maturity). 😆 I feel ashamed that for just a bit I got swayed by Virat's constant immature immature jap for Sai during the Saturday episode because she did behave immaturely. But today she was nothing but mature, even in all her anger against Virat. Maharaja Virat of Maturegarh ne aaj apni kingdom ki naak kat di. Blaming Sai for his situation, saying that Sai indicated Virat liked her and that's why he married her, vada nahin nibhaunga- all these reeked of immaturity. And you're right, Sai is the more sensible one. He was thinking about how nobody from Gadchiroli will speak up for him but it didn't strike him that Sai was right there. These things can't even be dismissed as "immature talks". Virat keeps calling her a choti bacchi. Then he should've also remembered that this choti bacchi just lost her father, who died saving him. She would've barely healed and blaming her was just below the belt and brutal.

At the moment on my maturity meter, Virat is last. 🤣

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

I'll be right beside you to wake you up from the dream. It is not going to happen🤣

Thank u i guess🤣

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Keshni!!

Now, I know your name and it feels so much better than to call you "Pepper". I LOVED your analysis and reference to NPD. It is PERFECT.

It feels so much better hearing Keshni, instead of pepper😆

Pardon me for digressing a bit and making it a bit too legally technical, but my take away from the episode was this very topic-- Why PP's joy and vaada are both going to be shortlived. Virat, today, has said it himself. I am not going to make another post but aapke ke post ko apna hi samajhne wali hoon 😆😆So let me start:

Law of Contract: In legal terms, a contract is an agreement between two private parties who forge a list of "mutual obligations", enforceable by law. Now, we know that the "vaadas" are not legally binding but they are contracts nevertheless --the types that one makes to self and to the receiver. However, the vaada/promise is not without a "consideration". There is something that both the parties need to execute in order for the contract of a promise to hold. The basic elements required for the contract (whether legally enforceable or morally) are: mutual assent to a 'consideration', the 'offer' and 'acceptance' (I am eliminating some other requirements that are needed in legal contracts as they don't apply to vaadas). So the operative word is "mutual assent".

Virat's warning to Sai about "jyada dino tak Kamal sir ko kiya hua vaada nibha nahi paunga" should have actually rung a bell with someone else -- the stray cat standing at a distance with the newly acquired Persian fur coat. Like I said yesterday, she will flaunt it and trot all over the place thinking that she has now earned the crown. But a cat being a cat, closes her eyes and drinks the milk, forgetting that the perceptive can see her persian coat slipping away to reveal her true identity of a stray cat😆.

She was totally flaunting her concern today...she probably considers herself his biwi🤪

(Disclaimer: My reference to the word stray cat is not meant to demean a woman but it is a metaphor for the conduct)

Virat, at the moment, continues to feel bound by the vaada that he made to PP because he has made it with all honesty unlike PP, who has made it for vile reasons that he does not know about. To Virat, the "consideration" for this promise is valid (in the moral realm of relationships) and he genuinely does consider her a "friend" because he does not want to leave her alone in a situation like that. PP, on the other hand, has accepted the promise but not kept the "consideration" that was the basis of this promise: to 'marry' Samrat-- not just for the sake of being married but to 'marry' in the true sense which is a meeting of mind, body and soul. Unfortunately, Virat is unaware that her 'assent' to this "moral contract" (However stupid it might be) was not made in the first place. So, technically, there is no "contract" read: vaada.

Oh wow, nicely pointed out. 👍🏼Pakhi is not even trying to fulfill the "consideration", so, why should Virat feel obliged to fulfill his part.

Now, as he begins to see the stray cat slipping out of the Persian coat, which he himself has gifted her, he will realise that his need to comply with the vaada does not exist. Because, if one of the two consenting parties has not lived up to the "consideration" for which the promise was made, then the promise/contract cannot be binding anyway. It will only make it easier for Virat to start moving towards breaking the vaada, one step at a time. Did I already see him cringe at the nasty comment PP made towards Sai?He did. Pakhi is making the contrast between herself and Sai obvious.😲Curiosity kills a cat, but since most of us area aware of the overall storyline, we know that PP will soon be shown her place. I cannot wait for that to happen. Me too😆

In case of the 'deal' with Sai, she is going to go out of her way to live up to the 'consideration' on which their contract is based. Because both of them have entered in it with honesty and intent to execute the contract from both ends. In fact, even when Virat feels that it is not a 'deal' any more, Sai will continue to call it one, no matter how much it might hurt her to continue to be true to it. Yep, agree here as well👍🏼

And, Sai being Sai -- he has said that 'jyada dino tak nahi nibha paunga' because he's emotionally charged -- but he knows that she is the one who will fiercely protect his kith and kin from any harm, selflessly, if the need be. He knows what she is capable of but Virat has been a disappointment in the handling of emergency situations. It takes me back to how Sai was in control of the entire sequence that followed after Kamal Joshi was shot. All he could do was watch her, shell shocked, instead of calling the shots. Virat's brain stops functioning at times when it's needed. This is the second time that Sai is in charge. She knows that she has to go and give her statement (kaisa UPSC topper hai ye aadmi, please check his marksheet once you are back in that room, Sai). He was losing his nerve thinking no one will testify from Gadchiroli in his favour. Chavan saheb, the woman you married is an ADULT and her statement will be taken at face value. (I am still keeping my brains aside for this entire track because it is too far away from the actual process due to cinematic liberty). So totally agree HOW he could not see that she is THE solution.

Rightly pointed out, he is not able to function under pressure. His brain shuts down, and he looks out of his wits. (I wish he would have kept his mouth shut as well😆)

And, Sai was right when she asked him, "You can discuss with her (PP) what, in fact, is something you and I have gone through and she has no idea about. You could have told me directly." But well, Sai, I understand he had already shut himself to you when you screamed at him for cleaning the mess on the floor. (Every wife goes through it and feels like grabbing the collar and shaking up the man, I get you)

Lessons I never knew I needed🤣

I am going to let all this exchange between the husband and wife since Saturday, pass. I do not blame any one of them. It has actually made me realise how stupid husband and wife could seem at times to a third person (Thank God, we don't have PPs in our lives). Anger takes over your mind and it is true. I can actually see this as such a 'real' argument. Both of them are not thinking straight (Sai is doing a better job, but then her reputation for being stubborn is coming in the way although she's right). But they should really sit down when they have cooled down and when Virat gets it that she's actually defied the world and been ready to go out with her legs broken to "save" her "saviour" and talk this out -- was there any need for a third person to be in between them when the issue concerned only the two of them and would ultimately be resolved only by the two of them.

I did not understand:

1. "Are you trying to say I married you because I liked you and is that what you want to hear?" (Kyun Chavan saheb, aisa toh nahi ki aapke dil ki baat zubaan par aane wali hai? Because this is a million dollar Q ki why did you marry a difficult person like her? May be you wanted her to say that she wants to hear it... 'Connection' toh aapko pehle hi feel hua hai...aur ab itna bada bed khali pada tha but you still imagined Sinhagad there) and

I swear this line came out of nowhere. I was like what, why, how did you come to this conclusion Virat. Is this what you are subconsciously wishing for🤣

2. "Mujhe laga tha aap imaandar hain, but aapki aai sahi kehti hai aap kuch nahi bolte" (found the dialogue a bit off the mark)

This was weird🤣

3. "Tumhe is ghar me apni jagah pata chal gayi" (I know she's going to come back and declare that Usha Maushi's room is her room now)

As I said, I am going to let all this rubbish talk between then PASS. Because when we are in an argument, we are so mad that we also say a lot of things purposely without meaning any of it, just to hurt the other person. (But Chavan Saheb, you have messed with Sai. She will not forget this so soon. Uske liye aap ko eventually bohat mehenat karni padegi)

Chavan khandaan ka toh kya kehna... naam bade, darshan halke phulke... I am so PROUD that Sai brought out the stick and handed it to Bhavani - todh dijiye taange, main phir bhi jaungi. I wonder, didn't Virat think "aisa kya zaroori kaam hai?" He will know soon and boy, you better, bang your head once somewhere. May be the loose wiring will get automatically fixed and transmit some light to your eyes.

He really should bang his head somewhere🤣 Even his mature bestie could not see the solution

Waise, Chavan saheb, aapne bola "Policewala hoon, Do minute me jhoot pakad leta hoon". Samajhla. Pann ek saanga zara, aapki best friend ke do minute kis country ke time se ginna shuru karein hum? I mean, aap pakad to loge na? Mujhe aapki kabiliyat par poora bharosa hai aur aapki pakki zabaan par usse bhi jyada so please, can I keep Maggi on fire already? 😆

I cannot wait for him to woo/beg her to return to their room on the other side of 'Sinhagadh'. Sai, you better ensure that the condition to return is a door tightly shut when the room is occupied.

I hope she is buying a tala on her trip today. She needs to protect her husband and herself🤣

Chalo, thank you, before I get branded as PP here, I must exit.

Have a great day!

Great post🤗

Well said Janki.

For some1 as mature as Virat (note the sarcasm) he spoke a lot of nonsense 😆

Pan ekda maaf karuya... Garam mahol mei zubaan phisal jati hai. But he better apologise as well. Jis tarah ghusse mei jeeb chali hai, afsos mei bhi chalni chahiye 🤓