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Posted: 13 years ago
Hey people! Sorry I got a little late today but now analyse away!

Also, please let me know whether you want to continue over the weekend or not. So far I know of one person who does and one who doesn't so tell me your preference and we can go with majority rule.

I can't watch it right now so I will be back in an hour with my thoughts. 😊

You all please go ahead!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Paro/geetaddict's take which she sent me 😃

Geet episode 5

The episodes in the beginning are so heavy on drama no wonder we enjoyed the lighter episodes in the office track.
So Channi's mom suspects or rather knows for sure Brij has killed Channi. Daarji is also in a way aware of it but we can see he does not support it. With age even fanatics sometimes become wiser. But youth and fanaticism together make a very dangerous combination. The way Channi's mom was cursing the family created such an impact and then the exact words she used " your daughter will go through the same". Poor Geet she was in a way punished again for somebody else's (Brij's) misdeeds.I don't think Channi's mom wanted Geet to suffer, she was Channi's friend after all but acute grief makes us say a lot of things we go on to regret.
I think when Dev's family enters and sees the scene it does put the fear of life in them. They come to see what earning Brij's wrath can do to people. If at all we were not suspicious of them till now their shifty glances definitely gives us enough reason to be on the look out. They must have been really desperate to decide to continue with this charade even though they knew at Brij would do to them if he found out.
They way Dev's mom says what we are forced to do for our children makes us feel she was not actually for the deception but was doing it for her son. Compare this mom to the later one who was ready to hurt and even kill Maan for the family wealth. Well if Dev can transform into a saint his mom can become a sinner I guess.
I am joining Samana in really disliking Dev. He surely is a loose character. I don't think the script of their marriage drama included flirting with the victim. Poor Geet. She was so glad Dev had not discussed with his family but Geet should also have thought about the fact that after all this drama about wanting to know what she thought why he chose to ignore it. I guess her mom had scared her too much for her to think about anything else. I really felt like slapping him when he used the word Bharosa. Such a contrast between the way the word is used by Dev and then later Maan. For Dev the word had no meaning at all.It was just a word to trap an innocent girl. But for Maan his life was based on that. After what she went through the fact that Geet eventually grows to trust another guy in her life even one as clean as Maan is just amazing.
Somewhere though the brothers too think alike(Dev in his own twisted way though).Dev's photo scene reminded me of the scene where Geet refuses to accept Maan.s gift and so he gifts everyone with a mobile so she can get one too.And writing a letter.
So Dev gets a call probably from his creditors. Daarji asking Geet to remove the Kangan. What's behind that. Janney key liye Dekhthey rahiye Geet Hui Sabse Parayi ke old episodes har raath 8:00 to 9:00 bajey sirf indiaforums key is thread par.😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
Episode 5
It is the continuation of y'day's episode where channi's mother comes blaming Brij for channi's missing. She pleads darjee to tell what happened to her ,but even darjee is clueless but he could guess brij is involved. Brij denies but channi's mother falls on darjees feet asking for her kid's whereabouts. Then suddenly dev's family arrive there and they are also pretty scared and worried seeing them handa family feels uneasy but darjee interrupts and welcomes them and say that women 's daughter is lost and loosing a kid is the biggest tragedy, Then pummy is lttle hesitant then darji asks her what is the reason , then she says nothing everything is new to them. then geets tayaji says in small town some incident happens everybody is much concerned about that.
Lori function starts and Kamya startup with her plan indirectly saying it is beautiful campfire where hero heroine meets ,NT the rayal bahu corrects kamya, saying not heroine she is bhabhi.
Dev tries to be very decent wid everybody,acts so sincere to win their confidence too. GEET comes and she is asked to take blessings of pummy by her tayiji Pummi & fox NT greets geet for lori and NT hugs her. Dev starts attracting her with his smart looks and charm.Frankly speaking Dev's family acted so naturally that I could not even smell the cheating. Again kamya interferes and try to bring geet & dev more closer by saying they can greet each other or not. Geets father permits saying U can ask anything then dev greets him happy lori again kamya say U say everything what U said to me ,then dev says in canada also i will arrange same type of festive atmosphere for U. Geet is completely smitten and smile to that and greets dev also lori mubarak.
Then the celebration starts and daarjee asks brij about channi ,he lies he don't know but darjee says I know U care much about tradition and culture and U can't see somebody going beyond that but this time I believe U didn't do anything worse.
In the midst of celebration dev is full on with his plan to take geet into confidence.Geet asks him whatever we discussed Y'day on the terrace hope u didn't tell to anybody. Dev uses the situation and tell s no he hasn't. That was between them and he will not let any third person to come in between them.He promises that to win her confidence & trust. He plays here and there to take her pic to make her realise that he loves her. he also want to make the family comfortable so he asks for a family pic. Then suddenly his game starts. He gets a call and he acts as if there is a major problem due to which he has to stop this marriage. Then brij reacts and tell If U want anything in the form of dowry and property we are ready fotr that. however we have to give it. Then dev says that he is ready to take her with one pair of cloth but situation has changed . plz understand.
Dev and his family has come with full planning,kamya is well used to raise the issues innocently. Dev is grilling geet from all the sides, trying to win her trust, showing that he cares for her,He will never let her feel homesick after going to canada..While GEET'S family is bunch of idiots. women are emotional & brainless and Men have power&wealth but no brain to think.Geet's father is loving and sensible but his hands are tied up with family rules.
Edited by richa23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Episode 5 showed the further bonding between Dev and Geet with Dev trying every possible trick to win Geet's heart and trust 😡...I cant believe that when I was watching these episodes for the first time ,I was actually rooting for Dev to later transform himself into a loving husband in case he has some evil plans 😕😆..well I dint knew na Maan will b appearing that time to make us all crazy later 😆😆

Coming to the episode ,so it continued with Channi's mother giving her curse to entire Handa family and she was right in her place 👏 ;She has every right to curse the family which killed her innocent daughter so brutally 😡 ;The only sad part was Geet had to bear the brunt of this curse as she had to suffer the most after this curse 😭 .
Rest of the episode showed a good build-up for the Dev-Geet track where Dev tries to win Geet's heart with his filmy hero tricks 😆 and innocent Geet was slowly falling for Dev's charm ...
Even the precap scene showed how Dev was almost despo to win Geet's confidence and trust making sure that Geet puts her blind trust on him later ...
I still cant believe how CVs later projected Dev as victim and made NT the main culprit when in these episodes its crystal clear that Dev was the mastermind behind the whole game as he was the one who tried everything to win Geet's confidence and trust only to ditch her later and while doing all this he never had even 1% guilt on his face 😡😡...
Overall a interesting episode ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
Hoila devils! i was going through the discussions since page1..
The thing which caught my attention was how maan always protected geet's honour( her dupppata) and dev failed miserablely in it...
Today I want to ask one thing which had always bugged me..Hope u guys would help me..
The first scene Of maan and geet where goons were after her, she asked for maan's help..those goons clearly wanted to rape her..As she had no money with her...so the only motive for them to run behind her was to rape geet..so why in that scene maan threw her aside..
i always wondered one thing..Had geet did not fall into the river, she would have been robbed of her izzat..In that case also she could have been died..so why maan only bothered to save her life when she fell into the water..isnt it weird..or maan knew it already that geet will fall into the river and he will come to save her...😕
The idea of being raped is more dreadful than paani mei dubna..
can someone help me in this.I failed to understand maan's pysche here.😲
Edited by 21-07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
I still remember watching this epi it continued with chaanis mom's rant about her missing daughter and wow it was really a powerful scene and then when she cursed geet's family and the way geet's mom covered her ears i knew then something bad was gonna happen to geet for sure. Dev and co came and everyone went on with the festivities but the undercurrent of something coming up was always there. I really loved the song they used during the dev geet scene, they really wanted us to like the pairing till they slowly started to show us the reality of the real dev and family. He really wanted to make the family like him and then slowly they could twist and turn the situation to there advantage the call was to make it seem they needed to go back to canada soon so they needed to hurry up with the marriage. Dev was so overly sweet with geet it was obvious something was not right. the upcoming epis will start showing that dev and co r up to something but most of the men in geets family will not pay heed.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Another dramatic episode! something or other seem to be happening in these early episodes!
Channi's mother's curse seemed to have become true for geet! Poor girl!

Brij almost confessed! Darji definitely knows his grandson! He suspects him of misdeed! Darji is not shown has someone as intolerant as Brij. How come younger generation guy ends up so conservative! I liked brij's father – very jolly character. Enjoys masti! Wish we could have seen him more than d later chrs. Both husband n wife are quite popular actors (though don't know their names)! Geet's mom n aunt were understandably petrified due to geet's comment to dev. Dat added more drama to channi's mom's curse.

Dev – I don't know wht to say. If I were seeing it for first time, I wd have loved him. He acts as if he's falling in love with the girl. D way he looks at her, trying to take photo n d way he tells her dat whatever she tells him will not go to others. God any girl wd fall for him! He tells all right dialogues. No wonder innocent n young geet starts liking him! DD looked so innocent. I really felt so protective. No wonder many ppl could not accept dev turning positive. Is dev planning his every move or is he such a lady's man dat he himself falls in love with d women he comes across. I mean he really loves them. But knowing the later episodes, I am unable to accept dev's repentence. No wonder there was such a big protest against dev.

But won't a girl's family enquire about d groom's family? Will they blindly accept whatever they say. Dat looks suspicious. I mean if there is a reason for such rush rush affair, I would understand. There is no reason for such rush. So why are they not enquiring.

I liked the song too though wish could have been more dance moments. I liked d way Brij's father and wife quiets down when Brij stares at them. Dat guy is really a wet blanket!

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Posted: 13 years ago
I don't know why but for some reason it was a huge relief that Darjee wasn't in on the Channi murder. Maybe because it supports my theory that he really is a man of principles and that too a strong, stubborn one, only his principles themselves are somewhat backwards. He seems like a truly balanced person, which is why he is so well-respected, and a benevolent figure and supports my idea that he is Geet's true role model and the reason she has such an iron will and unshakable principles. Darjee does, however know his grandson and hopes that he hasn't gone too far. I liked that he was stern with Brij, giving credit to Channi's mother's accusations though he may not show it in public.

Sigh, Dev is making all the right moves to woo Geet and not just on a superficial level. She is a girl with deep beliefs and his confidentiality really impresses her along with the good impression she already has of his seeming honesty and desire to know her feelings. I think she appreciates that instead of refusing to marry her because she doesn't want to go to Canada he promises to bring India to her there. But what is the problem in the precap? 😲

I loved all the different connections with mothers today. There was Channi's mother of course, begging for her daughter's whereabouts, Geet's mother who gave her support by holding her hand even when she thought she had done wrong and finally Pammi, who says with her teeth clenched that yes, a mother will do "anything" for her children. Looking back, this is an indication of what they are doing but I wonder how it was interpreted at the time, maybe as her agreeing to the Geet-Dev marriage?

As for Channi's mother's curse, I honestly don't set much store by it because it's not like bad things happened to Geet because of her. They were already taking place when she cursed. So I think it enforces the idea that Geet fights all these superstitions, ideas of fate, destiny etc to make her own future, no matter the baggage of her family and her past. This is what Maan later comes to represent, her making her own destiny rather than allowing it to be dictated by outside forces.
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Posted: 13 years ago
I knew what Channi's mother was going to say ,something that would result in the inevitable,something she was ironically witness to when Geet-the innocent,oppressed victim ,the scapegoat in hands of her own family's wishes as well as Dev & co's short cut to save their skins from bankruptcy-will fight against the code of justice thats not set by Daarji's world of male dominance but rather the justice written in humanity.
But still that curse,that came as the final blow -when culminates into reality is heart-breaking,the intensity to protect really fierced up despite my knowledge of facts-thats saying something.
Obviously Channi's brother Surinder-Brij's right hand man & his ignorant father Ranjit drove her away declaring her as a woman maddened by loss.
Now as Dev & co-witnessed -indeed each 'n' every person of this enigmatic group is worth their salt as characters,plus the actors emoting their reactions were perfect- must say I miss KR -she enacted NT so well, and I'd been prejudiced by her sinister looks in epi 3 that she'd be at fault for whatever obnoxious circumstances Geet may face that'll make Canada a nightmare rather than dream come true (when I was watching the show at that time)
But her acting as a positive ,well wisher currently-with calm,honey toned voice is impressive.
No wonder I neglected Dev's reactions -but now each word he utters,every expression arouses my despise - the way he told -"bharosa rakhiye, hum Canada ko aapke liye India bana denge"-he never knew but those assurances especially "bharosa"-became Geet's undoing-coz he never upheld them as Geet did.
This reminded me of Maan- for whom "bharosa & vishwas" were foundation of love -which he held onto when he realized his feelings for Geet -coz her truth reflected in her eyes.
True enough- all the time her head was bent -but whenever an expression changed,her eyes lifted the flickering of those same sentiments.
Honestly those orange,red garments with lohri fire light really highlighted those brown eyes😳
Another mention of Pammi mummy-whose scene stuck in my mind even now & thats why I observed more carefully-"bacho ke liye ham kya nahi karte" and that immediate diversion from Dev showed her reluctancy & her helplesness.
So Dev asked her of a photo - he enjoyed the effect of his charms -not knowing how high Geet upheld her being taken in consideration-but just like the pic couldn't be captured, Geet wasn't meant to be captured as Dev's victim completely -she'd fire back.
Now I'm considering that phone wasn't just a ploy -but an urgent call from the agents who wanted their money & so NT -with her fast running plans while Dev with his deceiving words -tried to rush the marriage further -with a deadline.
Obviously Daarji refused temporarily -how I hope it did ,but only to be haunted by the same problem later.
Still Geet's fear -the way they showed crumpling her dupatta & seeking solace in Rajji was palpable
Edited by Lily201 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Epi 5 started on a very tragic note.. Channi's mother cursing d whole family.. n that brunt had to b taken solely by Geet.. ( now I feel bcoz Geet was not at fault..had nothing to do with all this sham... at all.. she was given a second chance in life.. unlike Channi..😭 )
Initially I thought that Darji was aware of Channi's murder.. but from today's epi.. it is not so...n clear that he is against such things... Thank God for that.. though he may b strict..he may b a disciplinarian..but not a murderer...
Now.. that dialogue of Darji.. is baar aisa na ho... means that Brij has killed som1 before too...😕

Innocent Geet continues to fall for Dev.. n his sweet talks.. she is starting to trust Dev more n more it seems..Dev dialogue.. BHAROSA KARO...😡😡
(Just why did he hav to do all this to her.. when his motive was only money...BLOODY MORON...)

Dev's Mother saying.. Bacho k liye kya kya karna padta hai.. showed that.. she was not happy with this whole plan..but had to go ahead.. just to save his son from d misfortune...
So the call to Dev I dont know.. whether it was a fake call.. or from creditors for money.. but now I guess they will step up with their plan...

Geet getting restless in d end.. seemed that now she has accepted her fate with Dev.. n was ready for this marriage..n now does not want anything to go wrong...

In d midst of all this.. one scene was absolutely hilarious.. where Dolly is just joyfully dancing around d fire n suddenly stops when Brij comes in front...its a small scene but left me in splits...😆😆
I loved Brij's glaring at Dolly at that moment... reminded me of DHUST DANAV MAAN...n his Diwali k laddo jaisi eyes...😆

BEST PART UPTIL NOW...THE PRECAP... DEV's dhulai from BRIJ...😆😆 This will b d first time that I liked BRIJ... since d beginning...😆




Edited by sia221 - 13 years ago

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