TRPs 4 Geet, othr shws- IMP NOTE - PG 8 & UPD 12! - Page 9

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Posted: 14 years ago
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deej ... thanks for the info ...

but don't u all think so ... the people meter thing is ridiculous ... i mean as far as i know ... i have never heard of it being installed in any of my friends / families houses ... so what does this mean ... this mean that there are very few people whose houses have this meter installed ... &there are 1000's who are ignorant of this machine ... which takes care of TRP's ...
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how fair is it in counting ...😕😕😕 I will be happy if this system is changed ... & they check the popularity of the show in a diff way ...
may b online popularity ... & visiting sites like IF or any other sites which are related to TV shows ... FB ... etc etc ...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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lf this peoplemeter is given to us then d CVs will never cry for trps. This whole trp system is faulty so the CVs shouldn't blame audience for poor trps
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@deejayaqueel: How can you call the system impartial when the methodology adopted by it is completely unscientific ... plus it is not open...
@Hima: I agree no one knows that who has got these meters installed in their homes that's why it isn't transparent...
@All: In India TRP system can not give a true picture of how many people are watching the show... Even people don't know that how many homes are selected for this... Plus region where these meters are installed also matters a lot... It is widely believed that rurual & remote areas are not covered for measuring purposes... Even Broadcasting ministry wants to make it more transparent and scientific...
Here is link to one such report.
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_ambika-soni-moots-new-tv-rating-tool_1365423


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Posted: 14 years ago
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@All:
I can understand the angst against all this monitoring and agree it is not perfect but a few points here
1. The coverage of TAM i.e. the number of households covered as samples is ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD. it is already much bigger than most other countries... this is not to say it is perfect, but it definitely an effort much larger than other such efforts...
of course there is scope for improvement thoughwhich TAM is already doing,... in the next 5 years, TAM is looking at increasing the coverage 4 times the current one
2. The viewers are not disclosed because otherwise ANYONE CAN INLUENCE OR BRIBE THEM... which is why it is a closely guarded secret...
3. If powerful Production houses could at will influence it, then WE WOULD NEVER HAVE EKTA KAPOOR SERIALS BEING AXED 😆😆... (cases-in-point: Tere Liye, Kitni Mohabbat Hai etc)
AND TRUST ME IF THEY COMPLETELY HAD THE SYTEM IN THEIR HANDS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PKYEK AND GEET WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN 0.3, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME 2-3 TRPS... OR EVEN MORE😃
4. Online viewership has not as yet been taken into account because the INTERNET PENETRATION IN INDIA CURRENTLY IS ABYSMAL...
So if you think TAM coverage is low, the coverage of Forums like these would be in decimal points!
hence for a lot of Youth based channels and shows, advertisers dont simply taken into account the TRPs... which is how channels like MTV and Channel V ('ZERO TRPs' shows and channels) still get advertising
This would also explain why Geet is still getting decent advertising... based on their previous equity... however, they cant simply keep relying on past equity without the support of at least half-decent TRPs... i mean we dont want to wait till it becomes like RBO right?
5. THE SAME TAM RATINGS EARLIER USED TO CONSISENTLY GET GEET TRPS OF 1.0 TO 1.5, OFTEN EASILY AHEAD OF PKYEK... (i used to track it week on week and analyse what episodes did well, what didnt... trust me... the fall in ratings STRICTLY coinicided with the furore here in the Forum...EACH TIME... irritation here was reflected outside too
Hence the fall in TRPs cannot be blamed on the easier option of TAM problems... TAM with its problesm got it the highest TRPs... for a long stretch...
the fall is definitely partly due to a fall in REACH (lesser people watching hence even amongst houses with Peoplemeters, lesser viewing) abd a fall in TIME SPENT (people watching for lesser time, proportionately being reduced even for TAM HHs, earlier all of us used to watch the entire show, now we stick to Maaneet scenes or less)
TAM is not perfect... but it has remained the same... Geet was PERFECT but has not remained the same... with the same constant flaws TAM has showed a change in ratings... just because it is low now doesnt entirely mean that now the system sucks...
I remember that DMG and all had also at the end talked about this... but the reason was simply that the show was not able to get back its former glory by taking note of the public sentiment!
There! there is no excuse for a good, coherent story, logical tracks, and progressive and forward looking evolution of ALL characters... not just leads!! And above all, you CANNOT ignore the Pubic sentiment which is reflected here... you cant assume viewers are illogical people with short memories!
PS: I am not a TAM employee 😆😆, only a Media Analyst who used to once LUURRRVE Geet 😭😭😭!
Edited by deejayaqueel - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ A lot of you had some doubts, concerns... have tried to clarify many of them through my previous message
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Deej - thanks a ton for clearing doubts... i just hv one more doubt... if a peoples meter wud b installed in my house, wud i know about it????? or is it installed without informing the person just by the cable person under some pretext of changes???? if i wud know if the meter is installed atleast i will stop feeling guilty every time i am unable to watch the show at actual show time...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: deniac

@Deej - thanks a ton for clearing doubts... i just hv one more doubt... if a peoples meter wud b installed in my house, wud i know about it????? or is it installed without informing the person just by the cable person under some pretext of changes???? if i wud know if the meter is installed atleast i will stop feeling guilty every time i am unable to watch the show at actual show time...

😆😆... no no... you are paid to have it installed... it is like any research... a research panel of respondents is created to regularly get updates on everything...
Peoplemeters cannot be operated without the viewers...
every member of the household has to press a certain button the minute they switch a channel... so that TAM can record who is watching what when etc.. etc.. The exact working beyiond this even i dont know...
Hope this is clearer
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@deej - so now i know...my watching or not watching geet at show time... doesnt affect the TRPs... atleast now i wont curse the guests who come unexpectedly and ruin my plans of watching the show at 9.30... as mere ghar pe aisa koi meter installed nahi hai...
Edited by deniac - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks deej...that was truly well explained.

Though I knew the connection between TAM and trps, I had no idea about anything more except that a few chosen households have it and have to press a button for the ratings to register.

Also, most households have only one TV. But what if some of these homes have more than one tV? Can more than one Peoplemeter be installed per house?

Thanks for the info, anyway.
Edited by pippa - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: pippa

Thanks deej...that was truly well explained.

Though I knew the connection between TAM and trps, I had no idea about anything more except that a few chosen households have it and have to press a button for the ratings to register.

Also, most households have only one TV. But what if some of these homes have more than one tV? Can more than one Peoplemeter be installed per house?

Thanks for the info, anyway.

You are welcome! 😳... dont really know... but doubt that right now more than 1 Peoplemeter would be installed in one house... they would rather cover more households i guess

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