Words - Meaning,Understanding & Reason. - Page 3

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

We saw Maan let go of all his anger, pride, self & humble himself only to sooth her pain.

Love being selfless emotion 'Self' is lost in 'Us'.
So his humiliation does not matter to him when compared to his need to see her, to be near her, to take care of her.

To fulfill his marriage vow to never let her alone.


Nandita

Originally posted by: sksg

EDITED:

Nandu, Words fail me after reading your excellent analysis. The questions you raise are so apt and are the same questions that have been running through my head again and again. Kudos to you for such an outstanding post.

Lot of people said that Geet forgave Dev/Darji in order to let go of her past and to start a new life. But, she is not able to let go of a few hurtful words spoken by her husband in anger. To let go doesn't mean to stop caring. To let go is not to deny, but to accept. To let go is not to adjust everything to satisfy one's desires, but to take each day as it comes and cherish the moment. To let go is not to regret the past, but to grow and live for the future. To let go is to fear less and love more. I wonder when she realizes that.

Some say words by one you love most will hurt most. That is true, and I want to add so does the deeds. It is the actions of those that we love and respect most that will hurt us most as well, especially if such actions are the likes of forgiving one's rapist and playing Holi with them as if nothing happened. When the hurt is so deep, then the words that come out as reaction will also be intense. I do not blame Maan for using the words he did. That is how I would react in his place. At least, he realized it the instant he spoke that his words will hurt her a lot. She on the other hand is not able to comprehend the hurt her act has caused her husband, and the amount of pain & suffering his heart goes through owing to her continued indifference to his repetitive pleas for forgiveness. I do not see her handling this situation with the grace of an adult. She responds with the grief of a child. It feels more like the tantrum of a 2 year old.

Some others say she walked out because of self-respect. But, self-respect is not something to hide behind. Self-respect is a question of recognizing that anything worth having has a price. To have that sense of one's intrinsic worth which constitutes self-respect is potentially to have everything: the ability to discriminate, to love and to remain indifferent. To lack it is to be locked within oneself, paradoxically incapable of either love or indifference, as illustrated by Geet; she is at present neither able to love Maan nor to stay completely indifferent to his plight. It is the highest form of self-respect to admit one's errors and mistakes and make amends for them. That is what we see exemplified in Maan. I do not think any amount of justification can justify her act of forgiving Dev and her current treatment of Maan, period.

A shadow has no real substance of its own, it is simply a lack of light. You cannot cause a shadow to disappear by trying to fight it, stamp on it, by railing against it, or any other form of emotional or physical resistance. In order to cause a shadow to disappear, you must shine light on it. That is what Maan is trying to do. He is trying to make the light of his love shine on the shadow that has fallen on Geet's heart. Quitters never win and winners never quit. We also see this in the persistence of Maan's efforts to win back Geet.

Originally posted by: sksg

EDITED:

Nandu, Words fail me after reading your excellent analysis. The questions you raise are so apt and are the same questions that have been running through my head again and again. Kudos to you for such an outstanding post.🤗

Lot of people said that Geet forgave Dev/Darji in order to let go of her past and to start a new life. But, she is not able to let go of a few hurtful words spoken by her husband in anger. To let go doesn't mean to stop caring. To let go is not to deny, but to accept. To let go is not to adjust everything to satisfy one's desires, but to take each day as it comes and cherish the moment. To let go is not to regret the past, but to grow and live for the future. To let go is to fear less and love more. I wonder when she realizes that.

Some say words by one you love most will hurt most. That is true, and I want to add so does the deeds. It is the actions of those that we love and respect most that will hurt us most as well, especially if such actions are the likes of forgiving one's rapist and playing Holi with them as if nothing happened. When the hurt is so deep, then the words that come out as reaction will also be intense. I do not blame Maan for using the words he did. That is how I would react in his place. At least, he realized it the instant he spoke that his words will hurt her a lot. She on the other hand is not able to comprehend the hurt her act has caused her husband, and the amount of pain & suffering his heart goes through owing to her continued indifference to his repetitive pleas for forgiveness. I do not see her handling this situation with the grace of an adult. She responds with the grief of a child. It feels more like the tantrum of a 2 year old.

Some others say she walked out because of self-respect. But, self-respect is not something to hide behind. Self-respect is a question of recognizing that anything worth having has a price. To have that sense of one's intrinsic worth which constitutes self-respect is potentially to have everything: the ability to discriminate, to love and to remain indifferent. To lack it is to be locked within oneself, paradoxically incapable of either love or indifference, as illustrated by Geet; she is at present neither able to love Maan nor to stay completely indifferent to his plight. It is the highest form of self-respect to admit one's errors and mistakes and make amends for them. That is what we see exemplified in Maan. I do not think any amount of justification can justify her act of forgiving Dev and her current treatment of Maan, period.

A shadow has no real substance of its own, it is simply a lack of light. You cannot cause a shadow to disappear by trying to fight it, stamp on it, by railing against it, or any other form of emotional or physical resistance. In order to cause a shadow to disappear, you must shine light on it. That is what Maan is trying to do. He is trying to make the light of his love shine on the shadow that has fallen on Geet's heart.

Originally posted by: hadah

Wow yaar... Love your post! 👏

Wonderful thoughts and words put together...

That was a deep analysis.... 👍🏼 I agree 100% with what u state...

Upon reading your post, I realized that Geet is being so selfish now that she only cares for herself and not the people around her esp her loved ones...😒

@Nandita:- Nicely Summed Up D whole concept of GEET..

Originally posted by: whitepearl

Dear Nandita....what a moving post dear!. Every word was like precious pearl string together. But above few lines is the crux of all.

Maan - The man who has let himself crushed from mountain to ashes for this girl is getting no gratitude in return. whatever said and done...Geet should have forgiven her husband long time back. Actually the word 'forgive' does not even fit to this situation. Maan has not done any crime or sin...it was a few words spoken out in anger. But really are those word so sinful that all his love, care and togetherness have no meaning now. That she can't see how much remorseful Maan is now.

All I see here are two egoistic persons.....

Maan who understands that his wife wanted to forgive Dev out for gratitude...just because he has saved Maan's life but he could not stand the fact that she did not feel the need to discuss or share it with him and that made him even more angry. He could not take it when above all Dev informed him that Geet has forgiven him. (Well ! I can understand his position as a husband. Maan must have felt mocked at.....it is almost like Dev teasing him that when his wife has forgiven him then why is he still angry)...All I can say is Maan should have shown some controlled and sensible behaviour rather then just been carried away with the blow. I know Maan is strong enough to handle any situation with utmost authority. But now- a- days he is loosing grip over himself.

Geet...why is she acting like so egoistic ......Now she can talk to her rapist...her daarji normally but not her saviour and mentor....How absurd is that. Well! She has lost all her sensitivity.....she can now only feel for herself. How can she be so selfish? It is so hard to take such a behaviour from a person who has just a few days back shown such a saintly behaviour by forgiving her offender(s).

It is sad to say but together they have made a mockery of LOVE and MARRIAGE.

Their love is profound but intolerant.

And it makes me sad even more.

Originally posted by: nightangel

@Nandita:- Nicely Summed Up D whole concept of GEET..

Now here is my two cents.

" Words always comes later then the Action has taken"""

IF Maan is Wrong with D Words According to Geet point of Views

Then Geet is Equally Wrong with her Actions From that day to til today......

Unfortunately CV's never ever tries to highlight Geet wrong actions but straching more Maan's words... which makes GEET character's demolished all her dignity she has got from d day one d show starts.... 🤢

Originally posted by: jasw

Nandita, agree with you completely .. to the extent that now I feel Maan was not much wrong in saying 'begairat' and 'safed khoon'!! 😆 Although I'm not absolutely clear about the meaning of those words but Geet is simply not capable of distinguishing what is right from wrong!

She happily forgives Daarji, who is a kind of tyrannical figure and did not have any qualms about getting Geet killed and the other sinner Dev who despite knowing it's a fake marriage could not control his hormones and made her pregnant! And it is just not question of forgive, she is oozing out with so much of love for Daarji, making paranthas for him, showing so much concern for him! I dunno somehow that scene irked me a lot. It is as much of a non-sense as the holi scene with Dev. I mean even when you forgive such persons who had wronged you, you just can't have feelings for them, can you?

When you compare these now found feelings of hers with her indifferent attitude towards Maan, who is not leaving any stones unturned in his pursuit of Geet, it just means INJUSTICE.

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

I beg to disagree here Varsha.
Geet had no real need to forgive Dev for moving on.

Dint she move on when she left HP & her family, when she loved Maan, when she told him about her pregnancy, when she learnt who dev was, when she married Maan, when Dev saved Maan, when she lost her baby & even when she was weaving dreams for fresh start.

None of the moments she felt that forgiving was necessary to move on.

Gratitude! It was a reason that Maan felt, he felt Geet had been 'forced' to forgive Dev coz Dev saved his life. sadly its not so.

Though few harp she forgave Dev for Maan but no she forgave Dev more coz she dint want him burn in guilt & suffer coz of her.

These were her exact words & I can challenge anyone to contradict me on this...

U know Nandita I am not against forgiveness. Actually I held Geet very high to be ale to forgive the unforgivable....but even I am against the reason that she has given her. This is one of the reason why I lost interest in wring post and I did not visit IF for a long time. I left it around this time only. I supported the 'repent & forgive' theory because it was a to set hight standards of human behaviour. (I was not against the punishment of the crime that he had done) As your own post says...Dev can be forgiven for the sin if he is truly repentant but as the law of the land says let guilty of a crime be punished.) But they goofed up the beauty of this theory. And the reason that Geet gave for it was even more absurd. Had it been about of gratitude things would have been better. I agree that she has moved on a long time back. And Dev does not count a thing for them now. But it would have been good to see that Geet is forgiving Dev to make Maan feel better...to reconcile the two brothers and to unite back the family. Had she sacrifice her anger towards Dev to rebuild Khurana family and to clear Maan's heart of hatered towards his brother.....All this had been so beautiful but ALAS! They have spoiled it completely.

I refer to u to read this post I found at FB where this writer has dart on explained Geet's forgiving Dev
Forgiving Act - Only for Geet/MaanEet.

Thanks dear....

It was not only about her forgiving Dev or not counting his opinion but her forgetting everything as it never had him angry. He dint react with the anger he is accused of at seeing her forgive Dev that was something he had learnt the day before his outburst & Maan is one who reacts on spot if he has to & he reacted only when he saw her acknowledge & celebrate Holi with Dev as nothing happened.

How can a woman who cried herself impure infront of him before accepting his love coz she felt tainted, all of sudden now allow those hands to touch her.

Which man, husband could tolerate it & remain calm!!!!
What he did was normal ..at least I feel so as Geet has lost respect in my eyes from there on..I cannot hate her coz this man's love for her wont let me hate her.

Its his love & strength of character that he can rise above self & forget his reasons & justification for his anger & only concentrate on her hurt.

As for Geet..she has cocooned herself in 'self' but not self respect but self pity alone.

Mockery of the institution of marriage thats what this show has now become.

A wife goes ahead forgives her rapist but never counts her husband's emotions /opinion regarding it.

She goes ahead acknowledges her rapist as family & celebrates with him knowing that her husband has not yet accepted or forgiven his own brother for her sake.

A... wife who takes her husband's words on face value but never feels his fear & pain, his fight only for her behind his emotional outburst & walks out on him.

A wife who keeps mum to all who bad mouth her husband they don't know him but she does yet she hears it all.

A wife who tolerates her husband's humiliation.
A woman who discusses her relationship with her rapist.

I agree to all these points. Her behaviour is completely unacceptable....very immature.