LIMITS OF LOVE...How to define? - Page 3

Originally posted by: tinatartari

sorry 2 defer wid u guys bt i personally think tat love z always both sided n also mn.he mu her n she mu him.so tit 4 tat.geet z confused n so z maan.he ws trying 2 throw the curtains tat reminded him of her out of the house.remember??n then he takes over the company n forces her 2 b his secretary.he z trying 2 hurt her ego by saying ill c how many days u survive in tis city widout ma help n wen she hurts his ego,she is culprit.i wont take any 1 s side.both of them r guilty n both shud b ashamed of their behavior.i personally think wen he said 2 her in the outhouse tat u want money,take it blah balh she shud hav slapped him tight n gone out of his oh unless he has apologised n tis time 2 she did right.wen ur lover tries 2 impress upon u,its nt right.

even in roop tera mastana she ws moving back n he ws moving 4ward,tats how i perceived it.then wen she totally subdued,he moved back.tat ws really gr8 of a man nt 2 touch a woman wen she has totally subdued bt again it wsnt rite.

he changed her clothes coz she wud hav died otherwise.she ws pregnant,wet n had fever n he switched off the lights b4 doing so,so she wont ever think he crossed his limits.infact she shud b gr8ful 2 him.

wenever we do something good,its nt gentlemanly 2 remind tat 2 our beloved one again n again like he always do.i did tis n i did tat 4 u.eevn wen he ws asking her 2 b his false fiance he said tat u r alive here only bcoz of me.if under these circumstances does she refuses 2 marry him alongwid other mu s,she is justified coz that wud b under the pressure of his acts(good deeds)upon her n nt love.

Nice post but I DISAGREE at one point when Geet said you have crossed all the limits she didn't mean crossing limits in getting closer(how can she say that) but she meant crossing limits in being *Agressive*

Originally posted by: firefly99

Nice post but I DISAGREE at one point when Geet said you have crossed all the limits she didn't mean crossing limits in getting closer(how can she say that) but she meant crossing limits in being *Agressive*

Originally posted by: whitepearl

Thanks tina...for posting your reply...It is always good to see the other side ofther coin....

Well if I take only Geet's perception for granted and not considers Maan's...I would have said U are completely right. But here I am not saing that Geet is out and out wrong...Haven't you read all the praises I wrote for her...even a sightest emotion and reaction of her is praise worthy...I am the one who wrote an entire FF just to prove her point...but nowadays she is proving to be a confused girl and she is seeing every action of maan's keeping Dev and NT in the back of her mind. She sees him as dev's brother and that is why her trust on Maan waiverd. If she hates him...she needs to be honest about it...and if she love him she needs to be honest about it too....True love never tread on a midpath....Either you love and respect and person or you don't...There is no ifs and buts.

Originally posted by: Rituparnaa

Sorry Varsa that am interfering here but just wanna some points cleared of the outhouse scene.

That time also everyone blamed Maan for being abusive n again Slap Business!

Well for me wasnt it Geet who wanted to take the advantage of his soft corner for her?Wasnt she said that aaj iska PHAYADA uthaya jaye?How cheap it sounds!And when she acted to do that how can she worth respect there?I personally have seen ladies/gals who think this way never get respect!Then how she was thinking a man like Maan who is a loner will take that in a proper sense?He still cared for her and went to get the balm but he caught the glimpse of her laugh and got wild coz he already had a past exp something like that which ofcourse neither geet nor we know properly.So how did ppl justifiy her behaviour that time and condemned Maan's action?

(And abt the slap business sorry yaar had I ever blived in this kinda slapping everyone to knock sense then I'd be the first one to ask a tight slap to geet when she was accusing Maan in front of media!Had she been slapped that time then he would not have gone so wild with her I guess!But its nt the way we deal with practically.Maan could have never done that!And personally I dont rely much on this attitude until the opponent gets violent or raises hand...I still doubt that I reply back with a slap coz for me that is nt the befitting reply,there are other ways to prove ourself strong enough!)

Originally posted by: whitepearl

Hi friend ...As I promised you yesterday that I won't write a long post today..just a few thoughts.

But I would suggest you to read skgs's post. It is beautiful. It has a covered almost all the emotions which I am not going to include here.

Let me make a confession first....I was a bit disappointed with the start. I was expecting that the episode will open with the immediate reaction of Maan and Geet. It would have been nice to know how they felt at the moment....just to let be aware of how both the offender and the offended one feels in such situation. At least it would have given many of us (the Maan lovers, Geet lovers and the Maneet lovers) an opportunity to understand each other's perspective better. But I guess CV is in a mood to give us a peace of mind. They chose to complicate the situation even more and have fun. They showed us a delayed reaction of both Maan and Geet. It was a very cleaver move by our dear CVs. First they complicated the situation by a leap of one week and now this....CV's ki jai ho....Anyways it's your baby CVs dear...nurture the way you want. Hum toh crazy fans hai....kuch na khuch to bolenge hi....

I bow to the maturity of this man....Maan Singh Khurana. He has the maturity of mind to accept his mistakes. Here is a famous quote which completely fits Maan's persona....

A mature person is one who is does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals kindly"

After much thinking Maan was in his self ...matured and controlled...He knows how to rein his anger, as I said yesterday....He has brains to analyze any situation....Now many feel that Geet's slap has brought him back to his senses...Well then feel satisfied for the for the moment....because what has brought him back to his senses is not the slap. The slap was another embarrassment that Geet has imposed on him.

The level of maturity is directly proportional to the embarrassments a person can tolerate."

And Maan had his share of embarrassments and tolerance...The slap made him realize that it's the time to let Geet go her own way. So far, blinded by his love and concern for her he was fighting with her. Jaise geet ko usase hi chura chahta ho. But he never wanted to bind her. He wanted Geet to recognize her hidden love for him. He wanted her to be honest to herself and open up so say..."Yes! you are an inseparable part of my existence as I am yours...We are entwined together by soul" ...but yesterday after that slap he realized that Geet was a mirage....her love was an illusion."...He wondered how their purest of all relationship had been ruined just because they gave free rein to their emotions and anger...How easily unrestrained tongue and nasty anger can spoiled a relationship...Maan had warned Geet of this situation beforehand in the office but he himself fall prey to them. He still consider them "hum"..for he knows that they both were at fault at times. His sense of concern for their breaking relationship outweighs his concern for his own pain....He wanted to rectify the situation. He was back to his controlled self and has come in terms with the harsh facts of their relationship at the moment.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I was also very please to see Geet realizing her mistake too...Her eagerness to say sorry to Maan...Her plead to babaji that Maan would listen to her. Loved the way she barged in his office to express herself. As Skgs in her post he was absolutely calm....Her calmness surprised even Geet. He does not have to look at Geet to visualize her...He could feel her eyes piercing his skin....He told her to be mindful of stairs...that shows his concern for her. His sweetness moved me...but little I realized then that behind his sweetness a tormenting pain was hidden. He only raised his head after she was gone...and the pain in his eyes send shivers down to my spine....It was eyes that have seen the sufferings that the future holds for him. ...I better not discuss about it now!

Loved the scene where she trapped Maan in the room and forced him to hear her sorry.( Ha Ha Ha aap hi se seekha hai...Geet U are hilarious)....Maan was shocked to hear that...but his expressions did not show any triumphal signs....rather he looked hurt and chocked with emotions...unable to say anything....He also wanted to ask for pardon...He started of..."maine jo kal kiya wo..." But yeh! kya hua Geet madam stole his lines?????...She said aapne abhut galat kiya....Okay..yaha tak to theek hai...par aage????......Geet looked with disgust at him and said...she is only saying sorry because she slapped him and she should have behaved in a proper manner?.....Geet! I thought you were truly sorry. I thought when you said 'aaj tak sab galat ho raha hai.'......you are also sorry for mistrusting and misjudging Maan...sorry for insulting him publically so many times...but here you have audacity is justifying her slap!!! I am shocked...She was saying that Maan is the culprit that forced her to give him a slap!!!!.. Are U not the culprit who forced him do behave in this manner???? And then you said....."Maine soocha bhi nahi that that U would crossed your limits...".... I am hearing correctly??? What was that Geet?...Kis had ki baat kar rahi ho?...Are U angry that Maan cross his limits to be angry or do U thinks he has crossed his limits to force you for a dance???.....In the outhouse you had also said the same line and we all supported you because then you both were not in love...But today you have moved so closely with him...Now you are saying he has crossed his limits....oh then what would you say to the times when he changed your clothes...and what do you have to say about the foreplay you enjoyed with him in Shimla on Roop Mastana.....who defined limits that day? Dear Geet...it was not you ...it was Maan who stopped...because he wanted you to come in terms with your feelings first...tumne toh har cross karne main kai kasar nahin choodi thi...U just flowed..He would have taken real advantage of you that day...but this very man of principles stopped you to do that mistake...Yes I say mistake because that's what you would have named it had he given into that moment...Then also U would have said ... Maine soocha bhi nahi that that U would crossed your limits..."....Maan dear tum to bach gaye...because this confused soul Geet cannot be trusted....She is a person who can't be honest to her own feelings.... How can you say such disgusting thing to the man who is madly in love with you...a man whom you also love....How can you doubt his intensions?....I am sure Maan was shocked too and hurt that she graded him on such low scale....He just said " I am also..." Come on Geet are intelligent enough to fill the blank...He is saying sorry for his mistakes.... but why would you do so... you were a victim and a woman too so you have all the right to blame and victimize others. People should understand only your POV chahe phir kisi ka dil toote ya kisi ki jaan jaye....Geet ke swabhimaan pe aanch nahi aani chahiye!!!! Geet main tumse pyaar karoo ya tumhaare bachkanepan ke lie tum pe gussa karoon? samajh nahin aata!!!

I had always supported women issue blindly in my real life, I consider myself a feminist but after seeing Geet's reaction towards the end I am forced to rethink...does a man's limit is defined by a woman consent?.....If the woman is willing...there is no limit for the person she loves. (I do remember the way we IF members supported Roop Mastana...maturity, woman's choice etc..etc..) But the same person becomes the devil if he tries to be assertive. (mind you Maan was only forcing her to dance)

Are we women so pulp headed who can't read intentions of the man we love....or does his limits really depends on our moods.

About Maan's last promise I do not want to say anything.....As Ritu said...let him move ahead...why should he still hang on with Geet...If Geet doesn't want him let... her go on her own way. Let her be the owner or CEO of IP...at least she shall be happy with her new found independence then...And if Maan leaves her...the haunting words would come true that she will have to pay a heavy price for CEO post...

If he is a real saint and wants to marry he in spite of all odds...He will file case against NT and Dev just to feel her secured...but I am sure Geet will again misjudged his intensions....so again his true intensions will be will also fazed out.

Sorry friends.. I had no intention to make it long but Geet's confused state of mind made me write a long post again.

@ Ritu