LIMITS OF LOVE...How to define? - Page 5

I've not watched yesterday's episode, just read the written synopsis, so my comments may not be a hundred percent on the mark. So forgive me if I offend anyone by my comments. believe me, they are coming from a deep concern and love for the character and not any dislike for her.

However, having read all the comments and analyses, I feel Geet is still functioning on a half baked sense of herself and individuality. Her response yesterday did not come from a deeper relfection of all that has happened.

Right now, I get the sense that she is responding only to the slap incident and has enough gut instinct to realise subconsciously that she has rocked the boat and pushed things a bit far. And to be fair she does love him to bits in her own scatty brained style. Hence her managing to say the 'right' things yesterday, all that came for her deep love for him and an understanding of his for her, albeit a partial one. So I do not question her feelings. I question her inability to see beyond the immediate. And right now the immediate in her life is the slap, which has brought her to her senses, though once again partially.

But I love her too immensely. So please don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at her, when I say that I wonder why she never reflects on how she acted on the black Friday. While I understand WHY she did what she did and in her continuing to believe the fact that her actions were justfied, I wonder why she never thinks about HOW she reacted that day and the hurt she has caused.She is so sure that she not only did the right thing and that things are the way she concluded they are, but also the WAY she did it?! Does she never ask herself maybe she should have spoken to him in private and asked him instead of sl*gging him off in the media?

When, oh,when will you join the dots and see the whole picture, Geet?

Maan is wilting under the weight of the hurt you've caused and the weight of his love for you, You've shaken his whole sense of being and sense of who he is and yet, you can see only a bit of it and like yesterday, respond to the bit you see and not the whole!

Geet, dear, sit down and have a good think about your feelings for Maan, the contrast between your pledges and promises and your ways of responsing to situations, however convinced you are about the rightness of your actions. You will be a more wonderful person than you are now for having done it.
Please do this, for your own sake. AND for MIne!!

Originally posted by: whitepearl

Originally posted by: whitepearl

Hi friend ...As I promised you yesterday that I won't write a long post today..just a few thoughts.

But I would suggest you to read skgs's post. It is beautiful. It has a covered almost all the emotions which I am not going to include here.

Let me make a confession first....I was a bit disappointed with the start. I was expecting that the episode will open with the immediate reaction of Maan and Geet. It would have been nice to know how they felt at the moment....just to let be aware of how both the offender and the offended one feels in such situation. At least it would have given many of us (the Maan lovers, Geet lovers and the Maneet lovers) an opportunity to understand each other's perspective better. But I guess CV is in a mood to give us a peace of mind. They chose to complicate the situation even more and have fun. They showed us a delayed reaction of both Maan and Geet. It was a very cleaver move by our dear CVs. First they complicated the situation by a leap of one week and now this....CV's ki jai ho....Anyways it's your baby CVs dear...nurture the way you want. Hum toh crazy fans hai....kuch na khuch to bolenge hi....

I bow to the maturity of this man....Maan Singh Khurana. He has the maturity of mind to accept his mistakes. Here is a famous quote which completely fits Maan's persona....

A mature person is one who is does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals kindly"

After much thinking Maan was in his self ...matured and controlled...He knows how to rein his anger, as I said yesterday....He has brains to analyze any situation....Now many feel that Geet's slap has brought him back to his senses...Well then feel satisfied for the for the moment....because what has brought him back to his senses is not the slap. The slap was another embarrassment that Geet has imposed on him.

The level of maturity is directly proportional to the embarrassments a person can tolerate."

And Maan had his share of embarrassments and tolerance...The slap made him realize that it's the time to let Geet go her own way. So far, blinded by his love and concern for her he was fighting with her. Jaise geet ko usase hi chura chahta ho. But he never wanted to bind her. He wanted Geet to recognize her hidden love for him. He wanted her to be honest to herself and open up so say..."Yes! you are an inseparable part of my existence as I am yours...We are entwined together by soul" ...but yesterday after that slap he realized that Geet was a mirage....her love was an illusion."...He wondered how their purest of all relationship had been ruined just because they gave free rein to their emotions and anger...How easily unrestrained tongue and nasty anger can spoiled a relationship...Maan had warned Geet of this situation beforehand in the office but he himself fall prey to them. He still consider them "hum"..for he knows that they both were at fault at times. His sense of concern for their breaking relationship outweighs his concern for his own pain....He wanted to rectify the situation. He was back to his controlled self and has come in terms with the harsh facts of their relationship at the moment.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

I was also very please to see Geet realizing her mistake too...Her eagerness to say sorry to Maan...Her plead to babaji that Maan would listen to her. Loved the way she barged in his office to express herself. As Skgs in her post he was absolutely calm....Her calmness surprised even Geet. He does not have to look at Geet to visualize her...He could feel her eyes piercing his skin....He told her to be mindful of stairs...that shows his concern for her. His sweetness moved me...but little I realized then that behind his sweetness a tormenting pain was hidden. He only raised his head after she was gone...and the pain in his eyes send shivers down to my spine....It was eyes that have seen the sufferings that the future holds for him. ...I better not discuss about it now!

Loved the scene where she trapped Maan in the room and forced him to hear her sorry.( Ha Ha Ha aap hi se seekha hai...Geet U are hilarious)....Maan was shocked to hear that...but his expressions did not show any triumphal signs....rather he looked hurt and chocked with emotions...unable to say anything....He also wanted to ask for pardon...He started of..."maine jo kal kiya wo..." But yeh! kya hua Geet madam stole his lines?????...She said aapne abhut galat kiya....Okay..yaha tak to theek hai...par aage????......Geet looked with disgust at him and said...she is only saying sorry because she slapped him and she should have behaved in a proper manner?.....Geet! I thought you were truly sorry. I thought when you said 'aaj tak sab galat ho raha hai.'......you are also sorry for mistrusting and misjudging Maan...sorry for insulting him publically so many times...but here you have audacity is justifying her slap!!! I am shocked...She was saying that Maan is the culprit that forced her to give him a slap!!!!.. Are U not the culprit who forced him do behave in this manner???? And then you said....."Maine soocha bhi nahi that that U would crossed your limits...".... I am hearing correctly??? What was that Geet?...Kis had ki baat kar rahi ho?...Are U angry that Maan cross his limits to be angry or do U thinks he has crossed his limits to force you for a dance???.....In the outhouse you had also said the same line and we all supported you because then you both were not in love...But today you have moved so closely with him...Now you are saying he has crossed his limits....oh then what would you say to the times when he changed your clothes...and what do you have to say about the foreplay you enjoyed with him in Shimla on Roop Mastana.....who defined limits that day? Dear Geet...it was not you ...it was Maan who stopped...because he wanted you to come in terms with your feelings first...tumne toh har cross karne main kai kasar nahin choodi thi...U just flowed..He would have taken real advantage of you that day...but this very man of principles stopped you to do that mistake...Yes I say mistake because that's what you would have named it had he given into that moment...Then also U would have said ... Maine soocha bhi nahi that that U would crossed your limits..."....Maan dear tum to bach gaye...because this confused soul Geet cannot be trusted....She is a person who can't be honest to her own feelings.... How can you say such disgusting thing to the man who is madly in love with you...a man whom you also love....How can you doubt his intensions?....I am sure Maan was shocked too and hurt that she graded him on such low scale....He just said " I am also..." Come on Geet are intelligent enough to fill the blank...He is saying sorry for his mistakes.... but why would you do so... you were a victim and a woman too so you have all the right to blame and victimize others. People should understand only your POV chahe phir kisi ka dil toote ya kisi ki jaan jaye....Geet ke swabhimaan pe aanch nahi aani chahiye!!!! Geet main tumse pyaar karoo ya tumhaare bachkanepan ke lie tum pe gussa karoon? samajh nahin aata!!!

I had always supported women issue blindly in my real life, I consider myself a feminist but after seeing Geet's reaction towards the end I am forced to rethink...does a man's limit is defined by a woman consent?.....If the woman is willing...there is no limit for the person she loves. (I do remember the way we IF members supported Roop Mastana...maturity, woman's choice etc..etc..) But the same person becomes the devil if he tries to be assertive. (mind you Maan was only forcing her to dance)

Are we women so pulp headed who can't read intentions of the man we love....or does his limits really depends on our moods.

About Maan's last promise I do not want to say anything.....As Ritu said...let him move ahead...why should he still hang on with Geet...If Geet doesn't want him let... her go on her own way. Let her be the owner or CEO of IP...at least she shall be happy with her new found independence then...And if Maan leaves her...the haunting words would come true that she will have to pay a heavy price for CEO post...

If he is a real saint and wants to marry he in spite of all odds...He will file case against NT and Dev just to feel her secured...but I am sure Geet will again misjudged his intensions....so again his true intensions will be will also fazed out.

Sorry friends.. I had no intention to make it long but Geet's confused state of mind made me write a long post again.

I agree with you completely. Thank you for writing this post as it is fair and just and very much needed. And I must say beautiful composed and well thought out. Please PM me whenever you post.