Postmortem-- what happened on 29th oct

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Mujhe yeh nahin bhoolna chahiye tha ke iss derial ka naam "Geet HUI SABSE PARAI" hai

The CVs were honest from the moment they created the show-- with three simple words,they told us that she was going to be alone in the world, they told us that no matter what we thought, at some point this girl was going to have to stand on her own two feet, and fight the world. We were so blinded by the maaneet relationship that we forgot that this is Geet's story, that it is about HER battle in the world

I've been lying to myself I suppose, burying my doubts about the Maaneet relationship--burying my little worries about the inequalities between them, but the signs have been there

There are several instances in their relationship where I have felt uncomfortable:

The most striking was when Maan brings Geet back from the train station-- I know he wants to break the tension between them, but the way he chose to remind her that he has always helped her and that she would not have managed in Delhi without him-- that always sat uncomfortably with me; at that moment, did we really have to be reminded of the great discrepancy between them. It showed me that MSK, no matter how much he loves her, does feel superior to her-- in a way, he may even like having her so dependent on him--If I'm going to really go to town, i think it has to do with his trust issues-- he likes having her need him for everything ,because he knows that she can't manage without him-- this helps him deal with his deep insecurity, and lets him believe that she will never leave him. I've always said that he's insecure about her, and I think he feels that her financial and physical need for him (I mean in terms of house and home, rahter than the other kind of phyicality) will keep her bound to him

The next was How grateful Geet was shown to be-- she keeps asking him-- Aap itne accha kyun hain, aap ka dil itna bada kaise hai, aap mere liye sab itna kaise karsakte hain?? It's not healthy for there to be so much gratitude in a relationship, for her to feel so beholden to him. There needs to be more equality, it needs to be shown that he needs her as much as she needs him-- and it needs to be shown that the characters are AWARE that he is as dependent on her as she is on him.

So then we come to Thursday's episode

So, the beginning-- we see Maan again, supporting her-- no matter what I think about how superior he feels, I can't deny how much he loves her

This man literally worships the ground she walks on, in fact I think he needs to keep hold of his feleing of superiority simply to keep himself from turning into a complete joru-ka-ghulam.

So he's there, in front of the media-- and every question they've asked themselves, every question that was thrown at them by NT, everything that they're going to have to deal with, (and thats not even including the revelation about the pregnancy I think)-- its all thrown at them when they're unprepared, when they're vulnerable, when they're already in the middle of a discussion about her leaving him.

And he reacts, reacts to protect her, reacts to protect his love...........and she's left shaken, shaken at the barrage of question thrown at them and shaken at the response he gives. Whilst they've talked about their relationship before the whole Dev dhamaka-- she surely thought after it all happened that they would not be wed, and for her to then hear than he wanted to marry her immediately-- it's a lot to take. No matter how much he loves her and she loves him-- at that moment, without even having discussed marriage in all its detail PRIOR to the whole revelation-- for Maan to then decide to marry her TOMORROw and then announce it to the w orld without even discussing it with her-- its a lot to take.

And then there's that beautiful scene in the car-- a moment of stillness in the eye of the storm. He tells her he wants to marry her, FOR REAL-- and asks her - FOR REAL-- with the FULL KNOWLEDGE of everything that is in HER past. Of course, his past is still an abyss of darkness, a darkness that is going to swallow them both whole at some time in the future-- I'm sure of that-- but at that moment, they're at peace, they're happy.

God, I hate mobile phones-- I hate them in real life, I hate them in TV shows, i JUsT HATE THEM

Dadi calls and Munda goes running-- goes to the woman who is still the most important in his life-- Geet has not yet quite made that position, not yet.

He goes, secure in his love-- leaving her behind to think of him and dream, for a little while.

Maan's love for GEET is huge, however flawed it is (for he is a man not an angel, a deeply flawed arrogant man) but his love comes with conditions. I don't think he realises that there is a condition attached to his love-- but looking back and watching this episode again, I realise that his love is conditional on GEET never questioning his love, and never asking him to voice it. I think this is again down to his insecurity, he feels that his every action should be enough to show her that he loves her-- I don't think he feels capable of exposing himself to her in that way. I think that maybe he would have done it once they were married, perhaps on the suhaag raat that we may have to wait a very long time for now-- I think that at that point he may have felt secure enough in her love to open himself up to her completely. BUt now, it's almost as if he is testing her by never saying the words-- testing to see whether she understands that his emotions and declarations are in his actions. She fails the test, as he expected-- bt more on that later

So Munda goes to Dadi, and there his world comes crashing down around his ears. I think Maan is very alone, and he's experienced bereavement and he's felt what it's like to be estranged from his Dadi. Thanks to Geet, he's regained a relationship with his Dadi, and to be faced with a world in which Dadi may not be alive- to have to face the fact that Dadi is not immortal and she may leave this world distraught over Dev; is it any wonder that munda goes against his principles and gets Dev two hours parole???

I'm unhappy that the CVs felt that they had no option but to go down the good old BIG- MIS track (the BIG-MIS is a tried and tested M&B genre, and of course much beloved of indian TV serials-- the question is how well the track is done, and whether it is stretched to infinity, or to the point where OUR vishwas and bharosa are destroyed). I wish there had been another way to introduce this track-- it seems so cliched to have her hear only the most damning part of hte conversation-- seriously, this is one thing that FROM THE START of the serial I BEGGED the CVs to not include.

But the part of the conversation she hears IS damning-- and feeds into each of her doubts

GEET HANDa is only 18-21 (whichever you chose to believe, she is very young)-- she's been through so much-- for those who would like a little run down, I guide you to SAfi's post regarding the topic. She's already got doubts, for like every one of us, she must have been asking herself whether men such as MSK really do exist.

Remember what he has done so far so far, he's saved her life, given her a job, given her a home, accepted her with her pregnancy and then thrown his brother into jail for her. It seems too good to be true. (Of course she's forgotten that he treated her like dirt for a good portion of their time together, he sacked her, he physically abused her, he had to be locked into a conference room to listen to her-- love sometimes makes you forget all the bad stuff)

So there she is, not quite believing that things could be so good for her-- a doubt in her heart that Babaji finally meherbaan horahe hain. She's unsure, she's doubtful, she feels a sword of damocles hanging over her head-- and as she approaches Dadi's room, the sword falls, severing the fragile thread binding her to happiness.

Geet hears Maan talking to Dadi, and it all starts making a terrible kind of sense to her. I don't think she doubts that he once cared for her, I think she believes that the revelations about Dev and her past have killed any romantic notions in his heart.

Remember that Geet comes from a family where she was almost killed for the family honour. It makes sense to her that Maan should be willing to marry her to save the family honour-- whichever example of marriage she's seen in her life, its not like she expects any kindness after marriage, or even for a married couple to have any love between them. The last time a man wooed her and claimed to want to marry her, she ended up betrayed and dumped-- at this time, she finds that the second man she's given her heart to seems to want to marry her for a reason other than love, and it all begins to take shape in her head. (Remember her family, remember her background-- they shape and alter every thought in her head)

To be fair to poor Maan, his dialogues to Dadi, if heard in full, would have melted even the hardest of hearts and eliminated all her doubts. His declaration that Geet is his zindagi-- ufffff, mein marjawan. The only problem is that he makes the declaration to the WRONG woman-- agar yahi shabd Geet se boldeta, kabhi bhi, kahin bhi, to is waqt yeh kashmakash Geet ke dil mein nahin hoti.

Then the dupatta scene

Again a misunderstanding arises-- he thinks at that time that she's heard the whole of his declaration, and so understands how much he loves her-- in some ways he's relieved that she knows the depth of his love, but he's not had to actually expose himself to her face to face, eye to eye. But this adds in to the disaster later on, when they are truly face to face and she asks why he wants to marry her. In Maan's mind, she's already heard his declaration, she's already acknowledged that she knows he loves her-- why does she want him to expose himself, does she want to make him weak in the same way that sameera did (ok, I admit that's massive speculation on my part, but it makes sense)

And then the world intrudes into their little world again, reminding him that he is not only Geet's Maan but also MSK, head of KC and responsible to it's board of directors. He leaves Geet behind protected in the citadel of the Khurana Parivaar, safe from the prying eyes of the world, not realising that Ravan can enter this citadel too, that the Lakshman in this story is Ravan in disguise and that the walls he hoped would keep Geet safe are actually home to Ravan too.

Geet holds on to her love for a few last moments, sure that God wouldn't be so cruel as to show her happiness only to snatch it away again-- he has been so cruel to her so far that it must make sense that the tide has to turn eventually-- why not now. She decides that she'll go to KC- the place where she first fell for Maan and where she got to know the man behind the growls.

But alas, on her way there, she comes face to face with her past-- and her mind rules her heart; at that moment is it any wonder that she can't bear any more and that she can't process any more-- she's in shock. At that moment, the only thing which could have made things better would have been if Maan embraced her and clearly enunciated everything.

Maan stands like a king surveying his council, and declares that GEET is his queen and soon to be queen of all she surveys-- there is no doubt in his mind. (Can I just emerge from my rehash of the episode to say HOW UNBELIEVABLY HOT DOES MSK LOOK--- THE MAN THE YUMMY YUMMY MAN THAT IS MSK IS BACK)

He lays down the law to the board of directors and then turns to leave, the victorious knight ready to return to his lady, ready to hear her acceptance of his proposal

When she opens the door, he looks so happy to see her (I almost can't write this, I feel so sick rewatching this-- for his love to be so misunderstood, for her to have lost something so precious, for her to be so hurt-- I can't bear it, I really can't)

DD has played this so well-- she looks shell shocked, her facial expressions ar e those of a trauma victim, those of someone who has had one too many shocks and who can't assimilate any more information. Everything she fears has come to pass- she is being betrayed again, her heart has again been played with, once again Babaji has shown her the promise of love, only to steal it away with one over-heard conversation.

He greets her, the victorious lover, expecting love from the woman he adores, and what does he get-- "Main aap se shaadi nahin karrongi"

He's shocked-- he's gutshot, she's completely blindsided him-- he's gone from the peak of success to the pit of despair in one second. She asks about Dev-- and his guilt shows on his face; a guilt she sees but misunderstands.

I'll give GC credit-- his facial expressions re stunning-- he feels guilt for going against his inner wishes, and guilt for having given into Dadi's demands, and it shows. To Geet, she reads his guilt as guilt for being found out in the lie-- for being foundd out before he has been able to redeem the faimly honour by marrying her

I CAN'T WATCH ANY FURTHER

Okay, I'm watching this just so that I can complete this but never again

One more out of take comment-- SASHA YOU UTTER KALANK ON THE FEMALE GENDER-- DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE-- YOUR MOTHER SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF GIVING BIRTH TO YOU

At that moment, Geet reveals every fear that she's hidden in the deepest recessed of her heart, accuses him of every sin that any man has ever committed against her-- but even then even at the height of her anger-- one word of explanation from Maan could have changed the course of what happened next

OH MY GOODNESS, HOW IS MSK EVER GOING TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE AGAIN-- HE'S GOING TO GO OFF TO THE JUNGLE FOR EVER AND EVER TO RECOVER FROM THIS SADMA

DIE SASHA DIE DIE DIE

At that moment-- Maan reacts the way he always does-- with anger. Its his default setting-- and lets be honest--I can see where his anger is coming from. He's being made to look a fool in front of people to whom he had just revealed his commitment-- forgetting once again that he's telling everyone he loves Geet, EXCEPT GEET HERSELF. He starts to lose his temper, and we all know that normally Geet would back down at this point-- but the Geet we see here is not the dabi hui Geet who has been reliant on MSK since coming to live in the outhouse- this is the sherni of HP, this is the woman who stood up to MSK and tore his property papers in front of his eyes

But Maan speaks the truth-- he warns her to think about what she's saying, for words are like arrows (and here they are arrows piercing his heart)-- they can never be recalled from the bow (and DD has appropriately cupids-bow shaped lips!!)

DIE SASHA DIE

Geet reveals at that moment what she thinks is going on, and Maan is blindsided again-- where the hell is this all coming from? how the hell can she think all of this-- stupid fool that he is, he doesn't even realise how insecure GEET is-- he is so sure of his love, and has given so many declarations of it, he forgets that he hasn't declared it to the one person deperate to hear the words-- the recipient of his love has never heard him declare himself TO HER

You know- the fight between them is made SO UTTERLY PAINFUL mainly by the constant sidelong looks Maan is casting at the BOD-- and the pained looks the BOD keep giving him and each other, and by the excellent actress playing Sasha-- whilst I detest the character, I adore her ability to be so loathsome.

OH MY GOD, the looks of pity being thrown at Maan as the BOD walks out-- truly the petrol being thrown onto the flames of Maan's anger. With every pitying look he receives, his anger grows another 100degrees hotter, and understandably so. A Maan like MSK can't bear to be pitied (most of us can't)-- and at that moment, there is only one guilty party in his eyes-- the woman he trusted with his heart (though he never told her that she had it)- the woman who threw his love back in his face and who dishonoured him at work

I CAN' T TAKE IT....................LET ME STOP WATCHING

Geet almost feels bad, especially when she realises how many people heard her-- but then she remembers what she thinks he's done, and her guilt melts away-- he's broken her heart, he's broken her faith-- he deserves anything her gets

She starts to walk away-- but MSK can't let anyone else have the last word-- he chases afer her. Deep down inside, I can't help but wonder if he just wants to stop her, if he hopes that if they can talk he can stop her from leaving and he can go back to the happy place he was in just before his world fell to bits

He goes back to the behaviour that he has always employed with Geet- he manhandles her-- this was so reminiscent of the days in HP, I almost shed an (extra) tear of remembrance.

But this Geet is the one who stood up to her family, the one who hit the "chor" on the head with a danda-- this Geet pushes back; and he falls. To him this is the last straw- the moment of final humiliation, the final straw breaking the camels back-- any love either of them feel for each other is subsumed by the red fog of absolute rage.

GOD MSK IS SO SCARY

I disagree that Maan wanted to remind her of his ehsaan-- I think he's just so hurt and so angry at that moment that he does the most hurtful thing he can-- he reminds her of everything in a way designed to make her remember. He's deliberately trying to hurt her at this point.

They say that you only hurt the one you love-- is it any wonder that they can hurt each other so much??

Every word she says is true, every spear she throws pierces her heart-- and she reveals what we already knew-- that the relationship between them was not the healthiest-- the foundation of their relationship had a little too much ehsaan in it to be fully stable, and here, the little trickle of the water of doubt has turned into a flood washing away every good thing between them

Barry Dhillon must be given such huge credit for his dialogues and I hope he's never experienced this kind of fight in his life

and then Geet asks the question that Maan doesn't think he needs to answer, and his pride rears its ugly head-- his pride and ego destroy any possibility of redeeming this situation-- he realises it but at that moment he doesn't care

I was so scared of him at that moment- Maan's biggest weakness is his anger; he seriousy has anger management problems- I don't know what he would have done if seeing the Taaveez hadn't brought him to his senses. Until that moment it was like Maan who loves Geet has gone, and Maan who hates Geet has reappeared. I honestly believe that only the sight of the Taaveez saved Geet from being physically hurt by Maan at that moment.

So Maan fails again, fails to live up to our expectations of him and fails to live up to Geets expectations of him

And then she retaliates in teh most hurtful way possible- she lays open their dirty linen in public; and whilst I understand it, I can't forgive her for it, and I can't forgive him either-- I can't forgive either of them for hurting each other so much and for hurting us along with them

As she walks away, they both realise that this is faar more serious than the green room scene-- but if you look at it, it was almost like that was a dress rehearsal for this scene-- even then, they were both so caught up in their anger that one after the other after the other, the argument keeps escalating until it is out of control

Each time, things end with them walking away from each other-- but this time, there is no Dadi to play cupid, no Dadi to ensure that they meet soon and talk

we are left with the hope that Yash will live up to the CVs promise, and will reunite our couple

My only question is-- can love be killed and have these two just killed the love that exists between them, or it is only a temporary madness (you know the temporary madness defence that is often used in murder) and can the love between them be given CPR and raised from the dead.

Or, is it just that as lovers, they knew exactly how to hurt each other, and with some distance between them, and with time showing them how incomplete they are without each other-- will they reunite

CVs my only complaint is that this entire scenario is based on the big-mis; you are staying faaaaaaaaaaaaaar too close to Kekta territory. I will give you credit, at least it's not only based on that-- I truly believe that this separation is going to be good for them and equalise the relationship; no marriage can be healthy where one party believes that they are beholden to the other. It is good that Maan learns that Geet CAN manage without him and Geet needs to learn the same thing.

Geet needs to learn that Maan loves her, and that She can survive without him; she needs to choose to be with him rather than end up with him cos she has no other option.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think, if done right, this track could be the making of them

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Mujhe yeh nahin bhoolna chahiye tha ke iss derial ka naam "Geet HUI SABSE PARAI" hai

The CVs were honest from the moment they created the show-- with three simple words,they told us that she was going to be alone in the world, they told us that no matter what we thought, at some point this girl was going to have to stand on her own two feet, and fight the world. We were so blinded by the maaneet relationship that we forgot that this is Geet's story, that it is about HER battle in the world

I've been lying to myself I suppose, burying my doubts about the Maaneet relationship--burying my little worries about the inequalities between them, but the signs have been there

There are several instances in their relationship where I have felt uncomfortable:

The most striking was when Maan brings Geet back from the train station-- I know he wants to break the tension between them, but the way he chose to remind her that he has always helped her and that she would not have managed in Delhi without him-- that always sat uncomfortably with me; at that moment, did we really have to be reminded of the great discrepancy between them. It showed me that MSK, no matter how much he loves her, does feel superior to her-- in a way, he may even like having her so dependent on him--If I'm going to really go to town, i think it has to do with his trust issues-- he likes having her need him for everything ,because he knows that she can't manage without him-- this helps him deal with his deep insecurity, and lets him believe that she will never leave him. I've always said that he's insecure about her, and I think he feels that her financial and physical need for him (I mean in terms of house and home, rahter than the other kind of phyicality) will keep her bound to him

The next was How grateful Geet was shown to be-- she keeps asking him-- Aap itne accha kyun hain, aap ka dil itna bada kaise hai, aap mere liye sab itna kaise karsakte hain?? It's not healthy for there to be so much gratitude in a relationship, for her to feel so beholden to him. There needs to be more equality, it needs to be shown that he needs her as much as she needs him-- and it needs to be shown that the characters are AWARE that he is as dependent on her as she is on him.

So then we come to Thursday's episode

So, the beginning-- we see Maan again, supporting her-- no matter what I think about how superior he feels, I can't deny how much he loves her

This man literally worships the ground she walks on, in fact I think he needs to keep hold of his feleing of superiority simply to keep himself from turning into a complete joru-ka-ghulam.

So he's there, in front of the media-- and every question they've asked themselves, every question that was thrown at them by NT, everything that they're going to have to deal with, (and thats not even including the revelation about the pregnancy I think)-- its all thrown at them when they're unprepared, when they're vulnerable, when they're already in the middle of a discussion about her leaving him.

And he reacts, reacts to protect her, reacts to protect his love...........and she's left shaken, shaken at the barrage of question thrown at them and shaken at the response he gives. Whilst they've talked about their relationship before the whole Dev dhamaka-- she surely thought after it all happened that they would not be wed, and for her to then hear than he wanted to marry her immediately-- it's a lot to take. No matter how much he loves her and she loves him-- at that moment, without even having discussed marriage in all its detail PRIOR to the whole revelation-- for Maan to then decide to marry her TOMORROw and then announce it to the w orld without even discussing it with her-- its a lot to take.

And then there's that beautiful scene in the car-- a moment of stillness in the eye of the storm. He tells her he wants to marry her, FOR REAL-- and asks her - FOR REAL-- with the FULL KNOWLEDGE of everything that is in HER past. Of course, his past is still an abyss of darkness, a darkness that is going to swallow them both whole at some time in the future-- I'm sure of that-- but at that moment, they're at peace, they're happy.

God, I hate mobile phones-- I hate them in real life, I hate them in TV shows, i JUsT HATE THEM

Dadi calls and Munda goes running-- goes to the woman who is still the most important in his life-- Geet has not yet quite made that position, not yet.

He goes, secure in his love-- leaving her behind to think of him and dream, for a little while.

Maan's love for GEET is huge, however flawed it is (for he is a man not an angel, a deeply flawed arrogant man) but his love comes with conditions. I don't think he realises that there is a condition attached to his love-- but looking back and watching this episode again, I realise that his love is conditional on GEET never questioning his love, and never asking him to voice it. I think this is again down to his insecurity, he feels that his every action should be enough to show her that he loves her-- I don't think he feels capable of exposing himself to her in that way. I think that maybe he would have done it once they were married, perhaps on the suhaag raat that we may have to wait a very long time for now-- I think that at that point he may have felt secure enough in her love to open himself up to her completely. BUt now, it's almost as if he is testing her by never saying the words-- testing to see whether she understands that his emotions and declarations are in his actions. She fails the test, as he expected-- bt more on that later

So Munda goes to Dadi, and there his world comes crashing down around his ears. I think Maan is very alone, and he's experienced bereavement and he's felt what it's like to be estranged from his Dadi. Thanks to Geet, he's regained a relationship with his Dadi, and to be faced with a world in which Dadi may not be alive- to have to face the fact that Dadi is not immortal and she may leave this world distraught over Dev; is it any wonder that munda goes against his principles and gets Dev two hours parole???

I'm unhappy that the CVs felt that they had no option but to go down the good old BIG- MIS track (the BIG-MIS is a tried and tested M&B genre, and of course much beloved of indian TV serials-- the question is how well the track is done, and whether it is stretched to infinity, or to the point where OUR vishwas and bharosa are destroyed). I wish there had been another way to introduce this track-- it seems so cliched to have her hear only the most damning part of hte conversation-- seriously, this is one thing that FROM THE START of the serial I BEGGED the CVs to not include.

But the part of the conversation she hears IS damning-- and feeds into each of her doubts

GEET HANDa is only 18-21 (whichever you chose to believe, she is very young)-- she's been through so much-- for those who would like a little run down, I guide you to SAfi's post regarding the topic. She's already got doubts, for like every one of us, she must have been asking herself whether men such as MSK really do exist.

Remember what he has done so far so far, he's saved her life, given her a job, given her a home, accepted her with her pregnancy and then thrown his brother into jail for her. It seems too good to be true. (Of course she's forgotten that he treated her like dirt for a good portion of their time together, he sacked her, he physically abused her, he had to be locked into a conference room to listen to her-- love sometimes makes you forget all the bad stuff)

So there she is, not quite believing that things could be so good for her-- a doubt in her heart that Babaji finally meherbaan horahe hain. She's unsure, she's doubtful, she feels a sword of damocles hanging over her head-- and as she approaches Dadi's room, the sword falls, severing the fragile thread binding her to happiness.

Geet hears Maan talking to Dadi, and it all starts making a terrible kind of sense to her. I don't think she doubts that he once cared for her, I think she believes that the revelations about Dev and her past have killed any romantic notions in his heart.

Remember that Geet comes from a family where she was almost killed for the family honour. It makes sense to her that Maan should be willing to marry her to save the family honour-- whichever example of marriage she's seen in her life, its not like she expects any kindness after marriage, or even for a married couple to have any love between them. The last time a man wooed her and claimed to want to marry her, she ended up betrayed and dumped-- at this time, she finds that the second man she's given her heart to seems to want to marry her for a reason other than love, and it all begins to take shape in her head. (Remember her family, remember her background-- they shape and alter every thought in her head)

To be fair to poor Maan, his dialogues to Dadi, if heard in full, would have melted even the hardest of hearts and eliminated all her doubts. His declaration that Geet is his zindagi-- ufffff, mein marjawan. The only problem is that he makes the declaration to the WRONG woman-- agar yahi shabd Geet se boldeta, kabhi bhi, kahin bhi, to is waqt yeh kashmakash Geet ke dil mein nahin hoti.

Then the dupatta scene

Again a misunderstanding arises-- he thinks at that time that she's heard the whole of his declaration, and so understands how much he loves her-- in some ways he's relieved that she knows the depth of his love, but he's not had to actually expose himself to her face to face, eye to eye. But this adds in to the disaster later on, when they are truly face to face and she asks why he wants to marry her. In Maan's mind, she's already heard his declaration, she's already acknowledged that she knows he loves her-- why does she want him to expose himself, does she want to make him weak in the same way that sameera did (ok, I admit that's massive speculation on my part, but it makes sense)

And then the world intrudes into their little world again, reminding him that he is not only Geet's Maan but also MSK, head of KC and responsible to it's board of directors. He leaves Geet behind protected in the citadel of the Khurana Parivaar, safe from the prying eyes of the world, not realising that Ravan can enter this citadel too, that the Lakshman in this story is Ravan in disguise and that the walls he hoped would keep Geet safe are actually home to Ravan too.

Geet holds on to her love for a few last moments, sure that God wouldn't be so cruel as to show her happiness only to snatch it away again-- he has been so cruel to her so far that it must make sense that the tide has to turn eventually-- why not now. She decides that she'll go to KC- the place where she first fell for Maan and where she got to know the man behind the growls.

But alas, on her way there, she comes face to face with her past-- and her mind rules her heart; at that moment is it any wonder that she can't bear any more and that she can't process any more-- she's in shock. At that moment, the only thing which could have made things better would have been if Maan embraced her and clearly enunciated everything.

Maan stands like a king surveying his council, and declares that GEET is his queen and soon to be queen of all she surveys-- there is no doubt in his mind. (Can I just emerge from my rehash of the episode to say HOW UNBELIEVABLY HOT DOES MSK LOOK--- THE MAN THE YUMMY YUMMY MAN THAT IS MSK IS BACK)

He lays down the law to the board of directors and then turns to leave, the victorious knight ready to return to his lady, ready to hear her acceptance of his proposal

When she opens the door, he looks so happy to see her (I almost can't write this, I feel so sick rewatching this-- for his love to be so misunderstood, for her to have lost something so precious, for her to be so hurt-- I can't bear it, I really can't)

DD has played this so well-- she looks shell shocked, her facial expressions ar e those of a trauma victim, those of someone who has had one too many shocks and who can't assimilate any more information. Everything she fears has come to pass- she is being betrayed again, her heart has again been played with, once again Babaji has shown her the promise of love, only to steal it away with one over-heard conversation.

He greets her, the victorious lover, expecting love from the woman he adores, and what does he get-- "Main aap se shaadi nahin karrongi"

He's shocked-- he's gutshot, she's completely blindsided him-- he's gone from the peak of success to the pit of despair in one second. She asks about Dev-- and his guilt shows on his face; a guilt she sees but misunderstands.

I'll give GC credit-- his facial expressions re stunning-- he feels guilt for going against his inner wishes, and guilt for having given into Dadi's demands, and it shows. To Geet, she reads his guilt as guilt for being found out in the lie-- for being foundd out before he has been able to redeem the faimly honour by marrying her

I CAN'T WATCH ANY FURTHER

Okay, I'm watching this just so that I can complete this but never again

One more out of take comment-- SASHA YOU UTTER KALANK ON THE FEMALE GENDER-- DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE-- YOUR MOTHER SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF GIVING BIRTH TO YOU

At that moment, Geet reveals every fear that she's hidden in the deepest recessed of her heart, accuses him of every sin that any man has ever committed against her-- but even then even at the height of her anger-- one word of explanation from Maan could have changed the course of what happened next

OH MY GOODNESS, HOW IS MSK EVER GOING TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE AGAIN-- HE'S GOING TO GO OFF TO THE JUNGLE FOR EVER AND EVER TO RECOVER FROM THIS SADMA

DIE SASHA DIE DIE DIE

At that moment-- Maan reacts the way he always does-- with anger. Its his default setting-- and lets be honest--I can see where his anger is coming from. He's being made to look a fool in front of people to whom he had just revealed his commitment-- forgetting once again that he's telling everyone he loves Geet, EXCEPT GEET HERSELF. He starts to lose his temper, and we all know that normally Geet would back down at this point-- but the Geet we see here is not the dabi hui Geet who has been reliant on MSK since coming to live in the outhouse- this is the sherni of HP, this is the woman who stood up to MSK and tore his property papers in front of his eyes

But Maan speaks the truth-- he warns her to think about what she's saying, for words are like arrows (and here they are arrows piercing his heart)-- they can never be recalled from the bow (and DD has appropriately cupids-bow shaped lips!!)

DIE SASHA DIE

Geet reveals at that moment what she thinks is going on, and Maan is blindsided again-- where the hell is this all coming from? how the hell can she think all of this-- stupid fool that he is, he doesn't even realise how insecure GEET is-- he is so sure of his love, and has given so many declarations of it, he forgets that he hasn't declared it to the one person deperate to hear the words-- the recipient of his love has never heard him declare himself TO HER

You know- the fight between them is made SO UTTERLY PAINFUL mainly by the constant sidelong looks Maan is casting at the BOD-- and the pained looks the BOD keep giving him and each other, and by the excellent actress playing Sasha-- whilst I detest the character, I adore her ability to be so loathsome.

OH MY GOD, the looks of pity being thrown at Maan as the BOD walks out-- truly the petrol being thrown onto the flames of Maan's anger. With every pitying look he receives, his anger grows another 100degrees hotter, and understandably so. A Maan like MSK can't bear to be pitied (most of us can't)-- and at that moment, there is only one guilty party in his eyes-- the woman he trusted with his heart (though he never told her that she had it)- the woman who threw his love back in his face and who dishonoured him at work

I CAN' T TAKE IT....................LET ME STOP WATCHING

Geet almost feels bad, especially when she realises how many people heard her-- but then she remembers what she thinks he's done, and her guilt melts away-- he's broken her heart, he's broken her faith-- he deserves anything her gets

She starts to walk away-- but MSK can't let anyone else have the last word-- he chases afer her. Deep down inside, I can't help but wonder if he just wants to stop her, if he hopes that if they can talk he can stop her from leaving and he can go back to the happy place he was in just before his world fell to bits

He goes back to the behaviour that he has always employed with Geet- he manhandles her-- this was so reminiscent of the days in HP, I almost shed an (extra) tear of remembrance.

But this Geet is the one who stood up to her family, the one who hit the "chor" on the head with a danda-- this Geet pushes back; and he falls. To him this is the last straw- the moment of final humiliation, the final straw breaking the camels back-- any love either of them feel for each other is subsumed by the red fog of absolute rage.

GOD MSK IS SO SCARY

I disagree that Maan wanted to remind her of his ehsaan-- I think he's just so hurt and so angry at that moment that he does the most hurtful thing he can-- he reminds her of everything in a way designed to make her remember. He's deliberately trying to hurt her at this point.

They say that you only hurt the one you love-- is it any wonder that they can hurt each other so much??

Every word she says is true, every spear she throws pierces her heart-- and she reveals what we already knew-- that the relationship between them was not the healthiest-- the foundation of their relationship had a little too much ehsaan in it to be fully stable, and here, the little trickle of the water of doubt has turned into a flood washing away every good thing between them

Barry Dhillon must be given such huge credit for his dialogues and I hope he's never experienced this kind of fight in his life

and then Geet asks the question that Maan doesn't think he needs to answer, and his pride rears its ugly head-- his pride and ego destroy any possibility of redeeming this situation-- he realises it but at that moment he doesn't care

I was so scared of him at that moment- Maan's biggest weakness is his anger; he seriousy has anger management problems- I don't know what he would have done if seeing the Taaveez hadn't brought him to his senses. Until that moment it was like Maan who loves Geet has gone, and Maan who hates Geet has reappeared. I honestly believe that only the sight of the Taaveez saved Geet from being physically hurt by Maan at that moment.

So Maan fails again, fails to live up to our expectations of him and fails to live up to Geets expectations of him

And then she retaliates in teh most hurtful way possible- she lays open their dirty linen in public; and whilst I understand it, I can't forgive her for it, and I can't forgive him either-- I can't forgive either of them for hurting each other so much and for hurting us along with them

As she walks away, they both realise that this is faar more serious than the green room scene-- but if you look at it, it was almost like that was a dress rehearsal for this scene-- even then, they were both so caught up in their anger that one after the other after the other, the argument keeps escalating until it is out of control

Each time, things end with them walking away from each other-- but this time, there is no Dadi to play cupid, no Dadi to ensure that they meet soon and talk

we are left with the hope that Yash will live up to the CVs promise, and will reunite our couple

My only question is-- can love be killed and have these two just killed the love that exists between them, or it is only a temporary madness (you know the temporary madness defence that is often used in murder) and can the love between them be given CPR and raised from the dead.

Or, is it just that as lovers, they knew exactly how to hurt each other, and with some distance between them, and with time showing them how incomplete they are without each other-- will they reunite

CVs my only complaint is that this entire scenario is based on the big-mis; you are staying faaaaaaaaaaaaaar too close to Kekta territory. I will give you credit, at least it's not only based on that-- I truly believe that this separation is going to be good for them and equalise the relationship; no marriage can be healthy where one party believes that they are beholden to the other. It is good that Maan learns that Geet CAN manage without him and Geet needs to learn the same thing.

Geet needs to learn that Maan loves her, and that She can survive without him; she needs to choose to be with him rather than end up with him cos she has no other option.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think, if done right, this track could be the making of them

LOL Doc




You gave words to my thoughts. Thank you. I have already written and spoken a lot on this ...it has left me quite drained. Now all I can do is look at what the future enfolds for us.
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hey doc
just read a few starting lines
will read the whole take later
nd really well described
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The Truth is That i am totally Bowled by your post.....Many things that i have failed to see and read in between the lines have been brilliantly quoted by you.....Doc This Post is Like a Live Postmortem of what actually happened but what was not visible to the naked eyes and clouded mind

Originally posted by: cxw1065

Mujhe yeh nahin bhoolna chahiye tha ke iss derial ka naam "Geet HUI SABSE PARAI" hai

The CVs were honest from the moment they created the show-- with three simple words,they told us that she was going to be alone in the world, they told us that no matter what we thought, at some point this girl was going to have to stand on her own two feet, and fight the world. We were so blinded by the maaneet relationship that we forgot that this is Geet's story, that it is about HER battle in the world

I've been lying to myself I suppose, burying my doubts about the Maaneet relationship--burying my little worries about the inequalities between them, but the signs have been there

There are several instances in their relationship where I have felt uncomfortable:

The most striking was when Maan brings Geet back from the train station-- I know he wants to break the tension between them, but the way he chose to remind her that he has always helped her and that she would not have managed in Delhi without him-- that always sat uncomfortably with me; at that moment, did we really have to be reminded of the great discrepancy between them. It showed me that MSK, no matter how much he loves her, does feel superior to her-- in a way, he may even like having her so dependent on him--If I'm going to really go to town, i think it has to do with his trust issues-- he likes having her need him for everything ,because he knows that she can't manage without him-- this helps him deal with his deep insecurity, and lets him believe that she will never leave him. I've always said that he's insecure about her, and I think he feels that her financial and physical need for him (I mean in terms of house and home, rahter than the other kind of phyicality) will keep her bound to him

The next was How grateful Geet was shown to be-- she keeps asking him-- Aap itne accha kyun hain, aap ka dil itna bada kaise hai, aap mere liye sab itna kaise karsakte hain?? It's not healthy for there to be so much gratitude in a relationship, for her to feel so beholden to him. There needs to be more equality, it needs to be shown that he needs her as much as she needs him-- and it needs to be shown that the characters are AWARE that he is as dependent on her as she is on him.

So then we come to Thursday's episode

So, the beginning-- we see Maan again, supporting her-- no matter what I think about how superior he feels, I can't deny how much he loves her

This man literally worships the ground she walks on, in fact I think he needs to keep hold of his feleing of superiority simply to keep himself from turning into a complete joru-ka-ghulam. Many a times i too have felt the same.....His Superiority act is a Just a Facade

So he's there, in front of the media-- and every question they've asked themselves, every question that was thrown at them by NT, everything that they're going to have to deal with, (and thats not even including the revelation about the pregnancy I think)-- its all thrown at them when they're unprepared, when they're vulnerable, when they're already in the middle of a discussion about her leaving him.

And he reacts, reacts to protect her, reacts to protect his love...........and she's left shaken, shaken at the barrage of question thrown at them and shaken at the response he gives. Very True.....I too had mentioned this in my Post that Geet was too shaken Up by what was happening all of a sudden and still more shaken when she heard his declaration

Whilst they've talked about their relationship before the whole Dev dhamaka-- she surely thought after it all happened that they would not be wed, and for her to then hear than he wanted to marry her immediately-- it's a lot to take.Again Bang On👏even the Previous Night when she says that Our world is going to change for ever thats what she was anticipating and him telling that he is going to Marry her will def leave her in shock

No matter how much he loves her and she loves him-- at that moment, without even having discussed marriage in all its detail PRIOR to the whole revelation-- for Maan to then decide to marry her TOMORROW and then announce it to the world without even discussing it with her-- its a lot to take. 👏👏👏👏👏

And then there's that beautiful scene in the car-- a moment of stillness in the eye of the storm. He tells her he wants to marry her, FOR REAL-- and asks her - FOR REAL-- with the FULL KNOWLEDGE of everything that is in HER past. Of course, his past is still an abyss of darkness, a darkness that is going to swallow them both whole at some time in the future-- I'm sure of that-- but at that moment, they're at peace, they're happy. Count me in I too have declared this a million times that when Maan's Past resurfaces it will be more bitter and more painful than what has been showcased and compared to that of Geet

God, I hate mobile phones-- I hate them in real life, I hate them in TV shows, i JUsT HATE THEM 😆

Dadi calls and Munda goes running-- goes to the woman who is still the most important in his life-- Geet has not yet quite made that position, not yet.

He goes, secure in his love-- leaving her behind to think of him and dream, for a little while.

Maan's love for GEET is huge, however flawed it is (for he is a man not an angel, a deeply flawed arrogant man) but his love comes with conditions. I don't think he realizes that there is a condition attached to his love-- but looking back and watching this episode again, I realize that his love is conditional on GEET never questioning his love, and never asking him to voice it. I think this is again down to his insecurity, he feels that his every action should be enough to show her that he loves her-- I don't think he feels capable of exposing himself to her in that way. I think that maybe he would have done it once they were married, perhaps on the suhaag raat that we may have to wait a very long time for now-- I think that at that point he may have felt secure enough in her love to open himself up to her completely. But now, it's almost as if he is testing her by never saying the words-- testing to see whether she understands that his emotions and declarations are in his actions. She fails the test, as he expected-- bt more on that later Never did i read the entire scenario to be like this but it makes sense it definitely Makes Sense👏👏👏...Now when i think and rewind each and every Seq its true he expects this of her.....I agree Maan is a man of few Words But where voicing is needed, he has done things through actions

So Munda goes to Dadi, and there his world comes crashing down around his ears. I think Maan is very alone, and he's experienced bereavement and he's felt what it's like to be estranged from his Dadi. Thanks to Geet, he's regained a relationship with his Dadi, and to be faced with a world in which Dadi may not be alive- to have to face the fact that Dadi is not immortal and she may leave this world distraught over Dev; is it any wonder that munda goes against his principles and gets Dev two hours parole??? 👏👏👏👏 Yes Had it not been for Daadi and her ailing condition i dont think Maan would have even Obliged to get Dev Out ever

I'm unhappy that the CVs felt that they had no option but to go down the good old BIG- MIS track (the BIG-MIS is a tried and tested M&B genre, and of course much beloved of indian TV serials-- the question is how well the track is done, and whether it is stretched to infinity, or to the point where OUR vishwas and bharosa are destroyed). I wish there had been another way to introduce this track-- it seems so cliched to have her hear only the most damning part of hate conversation-- seriously, this is one thing that FROM THE START of the serial I BEGGED the CVs to not include.

But the part of the conversation she hears IS damning-- and feeds into each of her doubts

GEET HANDA is only 18-21 (whichever you chose to believe, she is very young)-- she's been through so much-- for those who would like a little run down, I guide you to SAfi's post regarding the topic. She's already got doubts, for like every one of us, she must have been asking herself whether men such as MSK really do exist.Nice Point.....And true if we can think , so can she.

Remember what he has done so far so far, he's saved her life, given her a job, given her a home, accepted her with her pregnancy and then thrown his brother into jail for her. It seems too good to be true. (Of course she's forgotten that he treated her like dirt for a good portion of their time together, he sacked her, he physically abused her, he had to be locked into a conference room to listen to her-- love sometimes makes you forget all the bad stuff) Brilliant Point once again. Yes why do we fail to understand that she too can have doubts...or why can't she find it really hard to take in the fact that someone is going out of his way to do things for her???

So there she is, not quite believing that things could be so good for her-- a doubt in her heart that Babaji finally meherbaan horahe hain. She's unsure, she's doubtful, she feels a sword of damocles hanging over her head-- and as she approaches Dadi's room, the sword falls, severing the fragile thread binding her to happiness. Thats Exactly That Happened thanks for showing it in the right light

Geet hears Maan talking to Dadi, and it all starts making a terrible kind of sense to her. I don't think she doubts that he once cared for her, I think she believes that the revelations about Dev and her past have killed any romantic notions in his heart. Very Much Possible

Remember that Geet comes from a family where she was almost killed for the family honor. It makes sense to her that Maan should be willing to marry her to save the family honor Yes With a Past Like that of Geet's,it wouldn't be surprising if her thought process maligns,( I dont understand why People keep telling because Maan has done so much for her she should shut her eyes and believe him blindly) -- whichever example of marriage she's seen in her life, its not like she expects any kindness after marriage, or even for a married couple to have any love between them. The last time a man wooed her and claimed to want to marry her, she ended up betrayed and dumped-- at this time, she finds that the second man she's given her heart to seems to want to marry her for a reason other than love, and it all begins to take shape in her head.Makes a lot of sense to Me...(Remember her family, remember her background-- they shape and alter every thought in her head)

To be fair to poor Maan, his dialogues to Dadi, if heard in full, would have melted even the hardest of hearts and eliminated all her doubts. His declaration that Geet is his zindagi-- ufffff, mein marjawan. The only problem is that he makes the declaration to the WRONG woman-- agar yahi shabd Geet se boldeta, kabhi bhi, kahin bhi, to is waqt yeh kashmakash Geet ke dil mein nahin hoti. Exactly.....I agree what Maan said was those words which any girl would want to hear....But The confession here is to the Wrong Person

Then the dupatta scene

Again a misunderstanding arises-- he thinks at that time that she's heard the whole of his declaration, and so understands how much he loves her-- in some ways he's relieved that she knows the depth of his love, but he's not had to actually expose himself to her face to face, eye to eye. But this adds in to the disaster later on, when they are truly face to face and she asks why he wants to marry her. In Maan's mind, she's already heard his declaration, she's already acknowledged that she knows he loves her-- why does she want him to expose himself, does she want to make him weak in the same way that sameera did (ok, I admit that's massive speculation on my part, but it makes sense) Whoa Girl 👏 You are amazingly sharp at seeing the depth of Things......I never realized that this could have been the thought Process then....And it def makes Sense Content written all over MSK's face def speaks for what he felt that time....He though Geet had heard him all

And then the world intrudes into their little world again, reminding him that he is not only Geet's Maan but also MSK, head of KC and responsible to it's board of directors. He leaves Geet behind protected in the citadel of the Khurana Parivaar, safe from the prying eyes of the world, not realising that Ravan can enter this citadel too, that the Lakshman in this story is Ravan in disguise and that the walls he hoped would keep Geet safe are actually home to Ravan too.

Geet holds on to her love for a few last moments, sure that God wouldn't be so cruel as to show her happiness only to snatch it away again-- he has been so cruel to her so far that it must make sense that the tide has to turn eventually-- why not now. She decides that she'll go to KC- the place where she first fell for Maan and where she got to know the man behind the growls.

But alas, on her way there, she comes face to face with her past-- and her mind rules her heart; at that moment is it any wonder that she can't bear any more and that she can't process any more-- she's in shock. At that moment, the only thing which could have made things better would have been if Maan embraced her and clearly enunciated everything. I agree totally exactly My Views....Her Mind was clouded Dev coming in front of her did not help..it made things worse

Maan stands like a king surveying his council, and declares that GEET is his queen and soon to be queen of all she surveys-- there is no doubt in his mind. (Can I just emerge from my rehash of the episode to say HOW UNBELIEVABLY HOT DOES MSK LOOK--- THE MAN THE YUMMY YUMMY MAN THAT IS MSK IS BACK) I love the Usage of King and Queen which is apt for this actions on Friday in front of the BOD 👏

He lays down the law to the board of directors and then turns to leave, the victorious knight ready to return to his lady, ready to hear her acceptance of his proposal

When she opens the door, he looks so happy to see her (I almost can't write this, I feel so sick re-watching this-- for his love to be so misunderstood, for her to have lost something so precious, for her to be so hurt-- I can't bear it, I really can't)

DD has played this so well-- she looks shell shocked, her facial expressions ar e those of a trauma victim, those of someone who has had one too many shocks and who can't assimilate any more information. Everything she fears has come to pass- she is being betrayed again, her heart has again been played with, once again Babaji has shown her the promise of love, only to steal it away with one over-heard conversation. DD was Outstanding here, Kinda made me realize this is the Same woman who spoke in front of her Family at HP...The Pain combined with Fierceness intact

He greets her, the victorious lover, expecting love from the woman he adores, and what does he get-- "Main aap se shaadi nahin karrongi"

He's shocked-- he's gutshot, she's completely blindsided him-- he's gone from the peak of success to the pit of despair in one second. She asks about Dev-- and his guilt shows on his face; a guilt she sees but misunderstands. Exactly the way I feel he was shell shocked to hear what she had just declared on his face and he had come to know where all this had come from.

I'll give GC credit-- his facial expressions re stunning-- he feels guilt for going against his inner wishes, and guilt for having given into Dadi's demands, and it shows. To Geet, she reads his guilt as guilt for being found out in the lie-- for being found out before he has been able to redeem the family honor by marrying her 👍🏼Makes Complete and absolute sense

I CAN'T WATCH ANY FURTHER

Okay, I'm watching this just so that I can complete this but never again

One more out of take comment-- SASHA YOU UTTER KALANK ON THE FEMALE GENDER-- DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE-- YOUR MOTHER SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF GIVING BIRTH TO YOU Sasha is a real Disgrace to the entire female Fraternity, But Must say that Kanika Maheshwari gets into the Skin of Sasha and gives such a convincing and fantastic Performance 👏

At that moment, Geet reveals every fear that she's hidden in the deepest recessed of her heart, accuses him of every sin that any man has ever committed against her-- but even then even at the height of her anger-- one word of explanation from Maan could have changed the course of what happened next Yes Exactly My Point.....Maan Knew why and from where Geet's accusations where coming, he knew the base....He could have easily controlled the situation (But i think this is cinematic Liberty and the preferred showing the other way around)

OH MY GOODNESS, HOW IS MSK EVER GOING TO WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE AGAIN-- HE'S GOING TO GO OFF TO THE JUNGLE FOR EVER AND EVER TO RECOVER FROM THIS SADMA

DIE SASHA DIE DIE DIE 😆

At that moment-- Maan reacts the way he always does-- with anger. Its his default setting-- and lets be honest--I can see where his anger is coming from. He's being made to look a fool in front of people to whom he had just revealed his commitment-- forgetting once again that he's telling everyone he loves Geet, EXCEPT GEET HERSELF. He starts to lose his temper, and we all know that normally Geet would back down at this point-- but the Geet we see here is not the dabi hui Geet who has been reliant on MSK since coming to live in the outhouse- this is the sherni of HP, this is the woman who stood up to MSK and tore his property papers in front of his eyes

But Maan speaks the truth-- he warns her to think about what she's saying, for words are like arrows (and here they are arrows piercing his heart)-- they can never be recalled from the bow (and DD has appropriately cupids-bow shaped lips!!) True....He was still trying to manage things, But she was so Blinded by anger of being Betrayed again(The way she thought).....She did not see it coming

DIE SASHA DIE😆

Geet reveals at that moment what she thinks is going on, and Maan is blindsided again-- where the hell is this all coming from? how the hell can she think all of this-- stupid fool that he is, he doesn't even realize how insecure GEET is-- he is so sure of his love, and has given so many declarations of it, he forgets that he hasn't declared it to the one person desperate to hear the words-- the recipient of his love has never heard him declare himself TO HER. I Know what you have stated is true...But we can't blindly Ignore all the times he says Meri Zindagi Tumhari Bina Adhoori hai Geet etc Right???😕

You know- the fight between them is made SO UTTERLY PAINFUL mainly by the constant sidelong looks Maan is casting at the BOD-- and the pained looks the BOD keep giving him and each other, and by the excellent actress playing Sasha-- whilst I detest the character, I adore her ability to be so loathsome.

OH MY GOD, the looks of pity being thrown at Maan as the BOD walks out-- truly the petrol being thrown onto the flames of Maan's anger. With every pitying look he receives, his anger grows another 100degrees hotter, and understandably so. A Maan like MSK can't bear to be pitied (most of us can't)-- and at that moment, there is only one guilty party in his eyes-- the woman he trusted with his heart (though he never told her that she had it)- the woman who threw his love back in his face and who dishonored him at work

I CAN' T TAKE IT....................LET ME STOP WATCHING

Geet almost feels bad, especially when she realizes how many people heard her-- but then she remembers what she thinks he's done, and her guilt melts away-- he's broken her heart, he's broken her faith-- he deserves anything her gets Exactly Her Though Process coz for one Split sec she realizes the damage she has done by disgracing Maan, but she is so hurt that she wishes to look past it

She starts to walk away-- but MSK can't let anyone else have the last word-- he chases after her. Deep down inside, I can't help but wonder if he just wants to stop her, if he hopes that if they can talk he can stop her from leaving and he can go back to the happy place he was in just before his world fell to bits

He goes back to the behavior that he has always employed with Geet- he manhandles her-- this was so reminiscent of the days in HP, I almost shed an (extra) tear of remembrance.

But this Geet is the one who stood up to her family, the one who hit the "chor" on the head with a danda-- this Geet pushes back; and he falls. To him this is the last straw- the moment of final humiliation, the final straw breaking the camels back-- any love either of them feel for each other is subsumed by the red fog of absolute rage.

GOD MSK IS SO SCARY

I disagree that Maan wanted to remind her of his ehsaan-- I think he's just so hurt and so angry at that moment that he does the most hurtful thing he can-- he reminds her of everything in a way designed to make her remember. He's deliberately trying to hurt her at this point. Well I had a different Vision to This i thought he was trying to Remind her all that he Did to Prove that he did all this because he loves her, he cared for her....to prove that he was not going to get any thing out of it in return....But at last that was not what Geet wanted to hear then

They say that you only hurt the one you love-- is it any wonder that they can hurt each other so much??

Every word she says is true, every spear she throws pierces her heart-- and she reveals what we already knew-- that the relationship between them was not the healthiest-- the foundation of their relationship had a little too much ehsaan in it to be fully stable, and here, the little trickle of the water of doubt has turned into a flood washing away every good thing between them 👏👏👏

Barry Dhillon must be given such huge credit for his dialogues and I hope he's never experienced this kind of fight in his life .He Knows how to use his weapon (Read Words)....Very well

and then Geet asks the question that Maan doesn't think he needs to answer, and his pride rears its ugly head-- his pride and ego destroy any possibility of redeeming this situation-- he realizes it but at that moment he doesn't care

I was so scared of him at that moment- Maan's biggest weakness is his anger; he seriously has anger management problems- I don't know what he would have done if seeing the Taaveez hadn't brought him to his senses. Until that moment it was like Maan who loves Geet has gone, and Maan who hates Geet has reappeared. I honestly believe that only the sight of the Taaveez saved Geet from being physically hurt by Maan at that moment.

So Maan fails again, fails to live up to our expectations of him and fails to live up to Geets expectations of him.

And then she retaliates in the most hurtful way possible- she lays open their dirty linen in public; and whilst I understand it, I can't forgive her for it, and I can't forgive him either-- I can't forgive either of them for hurting each other so much and for hurting us along with them Sharing the same Sentiments Dragging it Publicly was an act which cannot be forgiven

As she walks away, they both realize that this is far more serious than the green room scene-- but if you look at it, it was almost like that was a dress rehearsal for this scene-- even then, they were both so caught up in their anger that one after the other after the other, the argument keeps escalating until it is out of control

Each time, things end with them walking away from each other-- but this time, there is no Dadi to play cupid, no Dadi to ensure that they meet soon and talk...No cupids this time, and there shouldn't be one....This Time Geet has to Make Things work in Between them.....I agree Maan has his share of salt added to their argument but Geet is the one who should mend her ways here.....she has done a damage which needs immediate attention and she will need to use up all her energy and bring earth and heaven to gether to win her Man back....

we are left with the hope that Yash will live up to the CVs promise, and will reunite our couple

My only question is-- can love be killed and have these two just killed the love that exists between them, or it is only a temporary madness (you know the temporary madness defence that is often used in murder) and can the love between them be given CPR and raised from the dead.

Or, is it just that as lovers, they knew exactly how to hurt each other, and with some distance between them, and with time showing them how incomplete they are without each other-- will they reunite Both Geet and Maan needs to Understand what importance the other holds in each of their lives.....They should learn to value each other, trust each other and have faith in each other.....that never a MU or and Ego Clash can penetrate b/w them Next time.

CVs my only complaint is that this entire scenario is based on the big-mis; you are staying faaaaaaaaaaaaaar too close to Kekta territory. I will give you credit, at least it's not only based on that-- I truly believe that this separation is going to be good for them and equalise the relationship; no marriage can be healthy where one party believes that they are beholden to the other. It is good that Maan learns that Geet CAN manage without him and Geet needs to learn the same thing.

looks like this is the very intention of the creatives to show that geet is on par with Maan, and for Maan to know that tables can turn over night that he too cant live with out geet and is dependent on her just like how much dependent Geet was on him....

Geet needs to learn that Maan loves her, and that She can survive without him; she needs to choose to be with him rather than end up with him cos she has no other option.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think, if done right, this track could be the making of them

LOL Doc



The entire Post Is Awesome....But the One i have Highlighted and Underlined etc was those which i wanted to Voice but which wouldn't come out and take the form of words
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Well said, darling!!!

I appreciate your thoughts.. I was about to make a post on the same thing...

We were shadowed by MaanEet's romance that we failed to see that Geet has practically done nothing by herself...

Hats off, CVs. Now, pls show us the confident and independent Geet...

Frenz, trying seeing the meaning behind this post!!!

Good job!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I'm sorry but I cant help but saying that your post rocks!!!!

You said it right... Maan though for his standard of Dust Dhanav is already opening himself to Geet more than he could but I think he did miss the biggest thing...

'I LOVE YOU'...

Clarity is always needed in all relationship but most humans fail to understand this...

Hope Maan and Geet are interwined even deeper after this...


Hulalalala. I cant help but smile after thinking of the possible romance soon...

Heeehhehehe 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Res.

This is one of the most sensible posts I have read since the episode, and it literally is everything I've been thinking and more in words. Fantastic post!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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This is the best take that I have read on the past two episodes of GHSP.....Brilliant write up.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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thank you all for your kind words

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