Debate: The Ethics of Carrying A Rapist's Child

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Posted: 14 years ago

#11

it's totally up to the mother...

no one should enforce their decisions on her...

one of the main reason a woman is told to to abort a rapists child...

is because they are afraid of what the societies reaction to the baby will be....

if a baby is aborted for THIS reason alone then that is the height of immorality.....

Edited by yasu09 - 14 years ago

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ash567

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Posted: 14 years ago

#12

Geet was not RAPED, not in anyway whatsoever.

Rape is when one of them, male or female are not willing.

Dev and Geet were both willing.

However even if it was rape, which its not.

It is not the child's fault, The child is a part of Geet, and if i was in her position i would have kept the child.

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naisal

@naisal

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Posted: 14 years ago

#13

Intriguing post.

Society is a very funny and ironic concept in my opinion. We want to thrive in it, fit in, abide by all those rules and regulations to not be considered an outcast, yet when certain circumstances arise, we condemn those very rules, question how morally upright is Society after all, those people whom we're afraid would 'talk behind our backs' - they don't matter at all, to hell with them. But nevertheless, we still go to high extents to blend into it.

In Indian shows, like Geet, characters they think they can handle the views and outcries of the society on matters like unwed mothers getting pregnant and making seemingly brave and altruistic decisions of keeping the child. But in actuality, it is pragmatic? A rapist gets a innocent woman pregnant and then leaves her to die in this BIG, BAD WORLD full of opposing forces manipulated by guess who, the society of course! Geet's family themselves want to get rid of her and her unborn child. Yet Geet chooses to fight for that child, because it is her OWN. It's a life she conceived albeit through deception and subterfuge.

I'm stricken between two choices - whether keeping a rapists' child alive and raising the baby on one's own is just wrong, or is saving an innocent life the better thing to do? Hmm...confusing.

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yasmeen

@Yasmeen786

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Posted: 14 years ago

#14

Ok firstly let me applaud this fantastic post......You have created/started a very rational topic....ok now going back to your pending questions: to be frank I feel that a women should be given the liberty to make her own choices, at the end of the day, we all have a freedom of expression/speech to live our life according to our own accords (as long as we don't go overboard, and hurt others due to our actions) so why should we let someone else/society enforce their opinions upon us....society is just a term used to describe the moral culture they follow/believe, conspicuously observing this topic from a social perspective, many people will deplore the idea of a women carrying a rapists child, as they feel it will spoil the whole scenario of the society, but why can't they be a bit more empathetic and take into account the psychological factor e.g. the brutal agony the women has had to go through, taunts, tarnished reputation etc.......I therefore feel society goes overboard with such issues and tends to create a mountain out of a molehill, especially the Asian society which I reside from, the society here is crazy, if a girl fell pregnant due to the boys misconduct, they would put the entire blame upon the girls because of their vulnerability, conversely the boy would not be blamed once, rather it would be argued that the girl lured the boy etc, the society would criticize the girls to the core, and spread the grapevine from one colony to the other, they are instilled with a very stereotypical approach......hope it makes sense.....sorry to all those who did not comprehend the issue I am trying to deliver ...... I know I can rant on for ages and lose the plot of the topic.....😆

Edited by dilmilgaye-kash - 14 years ago

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Opti

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Posted: 14 years ago

#15

Bri, I dont know what you are driving at with this post. Are you hinting/saying that Geet should lose her baby because.

1. She is only 18 years old.
2. She has been technically raped according to the Indian laws.

Because if you are I take the liberty of quoting you here:

There are some proponents to this theory that "GEET" should lose her baby, or miscarry just because she has to be with Maan? W*H?

Either these people do not value life or they think her struggle so far to fight her family, her life, her death, everything is meaningless! Such people should go and take a space walk by paying Branson for the Virgin Space Walk Program. Get real!

Has your views changed regarding whether Geet should or should not have the baby? If you feel she should, then what is the point of asking should an 18 year old be forced to retain her rapist child?

Leaving aside the show, I feel that a woman who has been raped by some one can have the 'morning after' pill which does not allow the fertilised egg to get embedded in the womb. Presuming that she gets medical attention, the medical staff should advise her about it.

If she does not know about it, and goes on to discover her pregnancy after she skips her period, then too she can act soon before the life in her actually takes form (as in when the heart beats, which is roughly around 3 weeks from conception). If she delays things and the life really takes full form, then decides to get rid of the child, her rights take precedence over the right of the child to come into the world and that to me does not sound fair. Why should the baby be penalised for the sin of the father and the inaction of the mother?

Ultimately it would be the decision of the mother to keep or rid herself of the child but she should be told exactly what she is getting rid off. She should be made aware of all aspects including the emotional trauma/guilt she may feel later. If she then goes ahead with it, then let it be so. There is nothing legally wrong in aborting a child within16 weeks but then would she suffer from a guilt for the rest of her life? That is a question only the individual woman can answer.

Edited by Opti - 14 years ago

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Uthra

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Posted: 14 years ago

#16

Now thanks for opening this topic. I was all for opening this myself but since I saw yours, I decided to pen down my views here itself. To accept the truth, I welcomed the child track and Maan's unconditional love for Geet despite the baby. But I was all for it only until the time it was kept under wraps or hopeful that the world will come to know of it as Maan's child (which ethically right or wrong dont want to discuss).

Now that the truth is out in front of everyone. All your 7 points of how will everyone would react to it, I am only interested to discuss in POV of the child when it grows up.

How will the child be able to accept his/her biological father when he/she comes to know of what he did to his mother?

How will he/she react when it would be known that the man he/she has been respecting as father is not the father but the biological father's brother.

What respect will the child have for the mother since he/she will not have the maturity to understand the circumstances under which all these happened and the society and people around would already be giving strange looks as this child would have attracted enough attention even before it would be born.

What influence will all these have on the attitude of the child during its upbringing?

Under these circumstances, is it correct to progress on the baby track?

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noopurarora

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Posted: 14 years ago

#17

Originally posted by noopurarora

I don't really understand this post? Geet wasn't raped. I know what Dev did was awful, but what he did was definitely not rape.

*sigh* It's in the indian penal code. what dev did was RAPE. need proof, i'll PROVIDE!

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bDgT, what are the bold and cap prints for? I didn't know, I live in America and in America it is not considered rape.

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alias90

@alias90

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Posted: 14 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: noopurarora

Originally posted by noopurarora

I don't really understand this post? Geet wasn't raped. I know what Dev did was awful, but what he did was definitely not rape.

*sigh* It's in the indian penal code. what dev did was RAPE. need proof, i'll PROVIDE!

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bDgT, what are the bold and cap prints for? I didn't know, I live in America and in America it is not considered rape.

I'm not being argumentative or anything but, bDgT I think was making the point that it's related to Geet, meaning Indian and therefore falls to Indian laws not american.

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Weapondealer

@Weapondealer

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Posted: 14 years ago

#19

good post and hindu marriage act doesnt give permission for 2nd marriage

so the case is indeed rape acc to IPC

but solely the decision to gave birth to baby is wid the mom

points which shuldnt be forget

if the family of that girl doesnt support then wht?

if a girl is 18, n in 18 most of ppls r 12th paasouts or r in college. not a degree in their hand, wht abt leaving expenses

at 18 it means a person become major but the mental state is nt so much mature( bhai is baat par mere piche dande le kr mat aa jana) coz in college we do masti n all other stuff

plus itni choti age mein itni badi jimedari( well kiye toh 14 or 13 yr mein baby ko birth de dete hai thats diff senario)

well aur bhi keyi baat hai aagr likhne betho toh

but i will say hatts off to those girls who want to give birth to that nanhi jaan n these kinds of girls shows the real iner strenght n bravery

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Mishti

@Desi_Girl1991

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Posted: 14 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: noopurarora
I don't really understand this post? Geet wasn't raped. I know what Dev did was awful, but what he did was definitely not rape.

it is rape dear. Rape means "getting USED" and dev USED geet and left her! and cuz of that, she got pregnant and almost murdered.....it IS rape. Geet thought he's her hubby and that she'll spend the rest of her life with him but it turned out to be the opposite. he's not her husband and he left her helpless

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