Posted:
Interesting!
We've all debated across the board for the "BABY" as "CENTRAL" to the story.
We've argued our points left, right, and center. Haven't we?
We've made a case for keeping the baby.
We've written reams on it--advocating the baby's existence.
Now comes another diversion to this topic.
Keep aside all these so-called pleasantries and our fascination with rosy cheeks, dimple chins, eyes so blue, and all that jazz and the general enchantment or bewitchment of cuddling babies and motherly feelings kicking up, let me don the Devil's advocacy here.
The baby track at the end of the day is only a cinematic and dramatic tool or device to show the following:
1- How Geet reacts to it
2- How her family reacts to it
3- How society reacts to it
4- How Maan reacts to it
5- How Daadi reacts to it
6- How NT reacts to it
7- How Dev reacts to it
And ultimately, point number 8, how we as viewers react to it.
That is all there is to it.
But look at it from a realistic and pragmatic viewpoint.
Would we ask that an 18-yr old girl who is our sister, or daughter to retain her rapist's child?
Would we ask a sexual assault victim to keep her child?
Would we ask a gang rape victim to keep her child?
Would we ask a defenseless woman to keep her rapist's child?
Would we ask a woman who herself is nothing but a child or at best a teenager to keep her rapist's child?
Would we encourage any 18yr. old to keep their rapists child? Or even for that matter a much older woman who is raped to keep her rapist's child.
These questions are important to those that want to look at society from a broad perspective and NOT from narrow compartments of contained or coerced thought..
~ Thanks
Postscript: Let's not rehash the arguments!! As per Indian Penal Code as well as law in California Statute, what DEV did to GEET is legally termed as RAPE!
Secondly, to all the previous posters in such threads, this is the third thread on this baby track we have dealt and each one has been dealt on different grounds, and I had informed you then that this thread will be made in future, so I am coming good on my promise. Let's not keep on repeating the same old-same old-same old in all the threads. Add comments ONLY if you have something NEW to add and make a case to the EXACT and SPECIFIC points made on this post.
Otherwise you can please refer to the other posts that are provided herewith:
Abortion/Planned Parenthood: The Flip Side of the Pregnancy Debate
In Support of the Pregnancy Track
Caution: Updated in Page 3 also:
One CAUTION to all those posters who are trying to quote from my previous posts or tie-in my beliefs here. I think you are forgetting the first tenet of debate and sharing views.
I AM NOT ON TRIAL HERE
This is NOT about my beliefs
This is NOT about me
And secondly,
YOU are also NOT on trial here
IT is NOT about your beliefs either
It is NOT about YOU
Finally,
It is about the SERIAL
IT is about the STORY
It is about the BABY track being a cinematic and dramatic device
It is about the EUGENIC grounds and the ETHICS of CARRYING/RETAINING a Rapist's CHILD
So let's keep conscience calls, moral posturings, dubious personal attacks and personal feelings out of this debate and let's stick to the topic on hand from a rational, objective perspective and if you CANNOT debate from that perspective, you might as well avoid this topic.
- Thanks
Bri
Further Clarifications: The baby track can still be used as a cinematic/dramatic tool/device in future with it's parentage coming into questioning and it becoming a bone of contention between Maan and Dev in future after it's birth in terms of property as well as parentage. -- so this is not about the BABY track continuation either. It is about the here and the now.
Additional Note: Talk from the Victim's perspective NOT from some notion that this is a pro-life/pro-choice debate. That has already been dealt with in the Abortion post, the link of which is provided above. - thanks
We've all debated across the board for the "BABY" as "CENTRAL" to the story.
We've argued our points left, right, and center. Haven't we?
We've made a case for keeping the baby.
We've written reams on it--advocating the baby's existence.
Now comes another diversion to this topic.
Keep aside all these so-called pleasantries and our fascination with rosy cheeks, dimple chins, eyes so blue, and all that jazz and the general enchantment or bewitchment of cuddling babies and motherly feelings kicking up, let me don the Devil's advocacy here.
The baby track at the end of the day is only a cinematic and dramatic tool or device to show the following:
1- How Geet reacts to it
2- How her family reacts to it
3- How society reacts to it
4- How Maan reacts to it
5- How Daadi reacts to it
6- How NT reacts to it
7- How Dev reacts to it
And ultimately, point number 8, how we as viewers react to it.
That is all there is to it.
But look at it from a realistic and pragmatic viewpoint.
Would we ask that an 18-yr old girl who is our sister, or daughter to retain her rapist's child?
Would we ask a sexual assault victim to keep her child?
Would we ask a gang rape victim to keep her child?
Would we ask a defenseless woman to keep her rapist's child?
Would we ask a woman who herself is nothing but a child or at best a teenager to keep her rapist's child?
Would we encourage any 18yr. old to keep their rapists child? Or even for that matter a much older woman who is raped to keep her rapist's child.
These questions are important to those that want to look at society from a broad perspective and NOT from narrow compartments of contained or coerced thought..
~ Thanks
Postscript: Let's not rehash the arguments!! As per Indian Penal Code as well as law in California Statute, what DEV did to GEET is legally termed as RAPE!
Secondly, to all the previous posters in such threads, this is the third thread on this baby track we have dealt and each one has been dealt on different grounds, and I had informed you then that this thread will be made in future, so I am coming good on my promise. Let's not keep on repeating the same old-same old-same old in all the threads. Add comments ONLY if you have something NEW to add and make a case to the EXACT and SPECIFIC points made on this post.
Otherwise you can please refer to the other posts that are provided herewith:
Abortion/Planned Parenthood: The Flip Side of the Pregnancy Debate
In Support of the Pregnancy Track
Caution: Updated in Page 3 also:
One CAUTION to all those posters who are trying to quote from my previous posts or tie-in my beliefs here. I think you are forgetting the first tenet of debate and sharing views.
I AM NOT ON TRIAL HERE
This is NOT about my beliefs
This is NOT about me
And secondly,
YOU are also NOT on trial here
IT is NOT about your beliefs either
It is NOT about YOU
Finally,
It is about the SERIAL
IT is about the STORY
It is about the BABY track being a cinematic and dramatic device
It is about the EUGENIC grounds and the ETHICS of CARRYING/RETAINING a Rapist's CHILD
So let's keep conscience calls, moral posturings, dubious personal attacks and personal feelings out of this debate and let's stick to the topic on hand from a rational, objective perspective and if you CANNOT debate from that perspective, you might as well avoid this topic.
- Thanks
Bri
Further Clarifications: The baby track can still be used as a cinematic/dramatic tool/device in future with it's parentage coming into questioning and it becoming a bone of contention between Maan and Dev in future after it's birth in terms of property as well as parentage. -- so this is not about the BABY track continuation either. It is about the here and the now.
Additional Note: Talk from the Victim's perspective NOT from some notion that this is a pro-life/pro-choice debate. That has already been dealt with in the Abortion post, the link of which is provided above. - thanks
